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  1. 26 points
    Captain Nemo

    Decoding 2020

    Here are photos from today's flight over the construction site and the steel fab site. Took at least 400 photos, here are a snippit of them. Enjoy, -Captain Nemo (Gabriel)
  2. 25 points
    thatguyfromohio

    Decoding 2020

    44 feet lower than expectations Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  3. 19 points
    aj74205

    Decoding 2020

  4. 18 points
    Gordon Bombay

    Decoding 2020

    "Teasers" By: Gordon Bombay In the backstage area of the park, within a warehouse nestled between the parking lot, Planet Snoopy, and a security post—there is an office. It's a quaint space, an older area that's a nice respite from the heat afforded to whoever is on duty at the time. A man sits there among the hum of a struggling window a/c unit, the din of the water park, and the faint whistle of the train passing in the distance. He slinks down onto a desk chair, one probably as old as the park itself. The well-worn coveralls he dons are speckled with dried paint. On the walls: remnants of a proud park's past are hanging in posterity: signs dating back to the halcyon days of Son of Beast's announcement (before it all went wrong), posters highlighting the first Winterfest revival, and wooden smurf characters outlined with a faded blue. His desktop computer struggles. Recently loaded with Windows 10, its hardware hails from a software edition that debuted just prior to the new millennium. He squints to see the screen in the warm afternoon light of a muggy midwestern afternoon. In his glasses, words reflected... "KICentral.com," "Forums," "Decoding2020," and... "teasers." Confidently, he pushes back in the chair, propping his feet up on the desk. He sips his coffee and glances over at a stack of freshly printed signs sitting against the wall—the ones waiting for their day in the park. Chuckling, he glances back at the computer screen and mutters: "When I'm darn good and ready you impatient, 'Acers.' When I'm darn good and ready."
  5. 18 points
    DustinTheNow

    Decoding 2020

    Oh! I can’t believe nobody actually confirmed the track! I’ve also been so lazy after my trip to Batavia last week! It’s ashame too because I got some solid pictures! ... anyway, yes it is MCT! Check out these pics!
  6. 17 points
    DustinTheNow

    Decoding 2020

    Ok! Finally! I’ve updated my Kings Island Giga model to reflect the blueprints better, as well as updated the train design. On top of that, as an added bonus, I brought @BSBMX‘s model of the station to life with some textures! Anyway, enjoy! MINOR correction ... the metric length of the coaster should be 1662 meters. If you want to post that image publically somewhere, let me know and I’ll send you the image with the correction.
  7. 17 points
    collin.klopfstein

    Decoding 2020

    Well jeez that’s a little harsh, did you not see that one post where I said I’m 14? I’m 14 years old with an iPhone camera that takes crappy pictures at night and I can’t drive around, I’m telling the truth and there is literally no reason to troll about seeing a piece of track , that is stupid. So could you please stop acting like I do nothing for this forum?
  8. 16 points
    Browntggrr

    Decoding 2020

    This much drama over what is being considered acceptable or not acceptable in trying to figure out what comes next?? Is this still is a decoding thread?? As a 15+ year member (and relatively quiet for the past couple years) admonishing an enthusiast for doing what we all have done for years is quite laughable. If the information is obtained through legal/ proper channels, post it. If the park had an issue with it, they would ask to have it taken down. This isn't a Christmas gift. This is not a troll posting spoilers because they saw a movie before you. Those comparisons are apples to oranges. This is a large project we are all excited for. If you want to wait till the announcement for a surprise, don't look at a decoding thread because unless the info is illegally obtained IT WILL BE POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. There are no "rules" when it comes to legally obtaining PUBLIC information. Please have fun with this! Some of my best memories of KIC were on threads just like this. Ok, rant over. I will stumble off my soapbox. In other news, the Browns are going to the playoffs in 2019!
  9. 16 points
    Captain Nemo

    Decoding 2020

    Good afternoon good people. Here are additional photos from yesterdays flight. If there are any areas you want a closer look at please reply to this message and I'll zoom into my raw files I added some different perspectives and some shots of the finished supports at the fabrication plant. Does anyone in shot 7 know what the purple track is? -Captain Nemo (Gabriel)
  10. 16 points
    BSBMX

    Decoding 2020

    I reviewed the current piers/footings and this is what I've come up with. The green is what I'll call done (both pier and footing), yellow is pier-only complete, magenta is not started, and no-highlight is either not visible, not clear enough, or not started. Out of the ~75 piers/footings in this area, about 40% are complete, about 45% just have the piers complete, and the remaining is either hard/impossible to see or not started yet. Pretty solid numbers so far! Definitely agree with you. Those are 2 different grays. Glossy concrete gray for the supports. That particular piece is the very bottom of the main drop backbone support piece. The shear key on the very left of that piece mounts into the footing on the ground. Just for discussion, Copperhead Strike was announced 8/30/18 but the trademark was filed 4/9/18. Valravn was announced 9/9/15 (originally intended for 8/18/15) but the trademark was filed 4/17/15. Meanwhile, GateKeeper had its trademark filed AND was announced on the same day, 8/13/12. Steel Vengeance had its trademark filed on 8/15/17 and was officially announced the following day, on 8/16/17. 'Polaris' and 'Orion' were filed around the 'early' trademark filing date, but there are past examples out there that they may just file a new trademark the day of the announcement. I do not believe they're filing trademarks for names they never intend to use--they're just keeping their options open. As another user mentioned, these are just newer pipes with oil still fresh on the exterior. Here's a closeup image of several newer steel pipes versus the one on the bottom that's been sitting out for a while. Last, for any remaining naysayers out there saying the blueprints are fake, or this blue track is not KI's, I offer the below. These 3 pieces of track match identically to the existing blueprints in the turnaround area. Note where the support mounts are, which match where the footings are on the blueprints. Carowinds brought in Fury's equivalent piece of the EL.3 piece (shown below) into the park, prior to their announcement, as part of a show piece for the big announcement, so maybe we'll see something similar with KI.
  11. 14 points
    ohiocoasterfan

    Decoding 2020

    I wonder if this means anything?
  12. 14 points
    aj74205

    Decoding 2020

    Umm, we learned the track is blue and supports a very light grey/white, that people really don't like 'spoilers', and that most of KIC's members don't have the best taste in music. Also, brake run, transfer track and station footings are nearing complete with more underway. Recent pics are in the Project X Construction Updates thread, and you can find video on the WildGravity Travels YouTube channel.
  13. 14 points
    KIghostguy

    Decoding 2020

    The park is legally required to file blueprints with the City for construction. Nothing was leaked, it’s all public record. If you want to yell at someone, go yell at the politicians who made the Freedom of Information Act or the ones who made the act that made businesses required to file blueprints before construction.
  14. 13 points
    BSBMX

    Decoding 2020

    Diamondback #longerthanPolaris
  15. 13 points
    DiamondBanshee

    Decoding 2020

    ^^I’m not sure what exactly was promised for Mystic Timbers. All I remember is a “family woodie” with a shed at the end that would do... something. KI never said anything about it being elaborately themed to Disney standards. Most of the hype around the shed came from forums like this where enthusiasts speculated on what would be in the shed, from some animatronics to an inversion/drop track. As for what the shed is, it’s a well themed area that is much more enjoyable than sitting in the blazing heat on a boring brakerun imo. Plus, in terms of what major park chains usually do, MT is well themed, with such things as lift hill voiceovers, a small “movie” for the queue, and amazing music by IMAScore, in addition to the Shed. I personally love the theming. Could they have done more? Yeah of course. But for what was done, I think it’s great! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. 13 points
    silver2005

    Decoding 2020

    Are you guys really surprised that the decoding ground to a halt when you got access to the blueprints within weeks of the park opening and have been going through them with a fine tooth comb since then? Its just a waiting game until the announcement and vertical construction at this point.
  17. 13 points
    Maverick44

    Decoding 2020

    It should blow minds of KI fans. The biggest toy we got since Diamondback. It could be perhaps the biggest coaster that will ever be at KI.
  18. 12 points
    Hawaiian Coasters 325

    Decoding 2020

    Not the most accurate, but this is the best I could do. Note: I used the 2019 map.
  19. 12 points
    thatguyfromohio

    Decoding 2020

    I think ki is continuing the space theme because they knew about the attack that’ll happen to Area 51 [emoji848] better seen some Aliens Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. 12 points
    ldhudsonjr

    Decoding 2020

    I highly highly doubt that anything that's happened on this forum has impacted Kings Islands plans regarding unveiling this thing. What have you seen that makes you think the local media is "hounding" the park? Do you think that Kings Island wasn't expecting the media to ask questions when they started clearing a large section of the park and filing blueprints for a new roller coaster? I'd also have to ask, to what end do you think the park would decide to withhold dropping hints about the ride in response to all this? Would it be to punish enthusiasts? Would it be to punish John Materese (who I'm sure they feel does more good than harm by reporting about the park)? I really do think we should put this idea that we "ruined" the ride for ourselves to bed once and for all. The entire stated purpose of this thread was to figure out what the new coaster was. Maybe it was figured out more quickly than some would have liked, but could that just be because over the past few additions this forum has gotten better at piecing these things together? Should the members of this forum that did the heavy lifting on this thing ( @fryoj, @BSBMX @Bansheeback, @RuthlessAirtime, @DustinTheNowamong others) have done a worse job? In any case, this will continue to happen each and every time the park begins construction on something new for the foreseeable future, unless the park decides to change the order in which they do things, or laws change. If Kings Island wants to spill the beans themselves, the only option they really have is to unveil the ride before they file blueprints. Short of doing that, or policy changing somehow regarding these things, this will happen within days of them filing the blueprints every time. I have to assume they know this, and have decided they would rather have the prints get out, than disrupt their own timeline just to get ahead of coaster enthusiasts . If you don't want to know the details of the ride before the announcement (which I totally get, btw) your best bet would be to avoid Youtube videos about the subject, r/rollercoasters threads about the subject, and DEFINITELY threads like this. I know it probably sounds like it, but I'm not trying to be hostile here at all. @JAHill this is not really directed at you, by the way, it's just something that's come up multiple times here, and I'm just unsure of what people on this forum actually want. You can't open up a Decoding thread, then get upset when things get decoded. There is absolutely something to be said for waiting to find out anything until the announcement, I totally get that and I think anyone that want's to experience it that way should absolutely do so. The good news is, unlike Star Wars or Avengers, there isn't anyone jumping out of their skin to spoil it for you. I know for a fact that the only reason I'm aware of Project X is because I sought this information out. Trust me when I say the vast majority of people around our area, even if they enjoy Kings Island, are almost completely oblivious to all of this.
  21. 12 points
    collin.klopfstein

    Decoding 2020

  22. 12 points
    DustinTheNow

    Decoding 2020

    Who’s ready for some more analysis? And a new model of the coaster with near exact colors? For the track and supports? Not to mention @BSBMX‘s station model!
  23. 11 points
    collin.klopfstein

    Decoding 2020

    Happy 4th of July everyone!
  24. 11 points
    Shaggy

    What comes after the 2020 Giga?

    Frankly, unless the rumored 2020 coaster does super huge numbers for the park, I could see it being a long time before a new, large coaster install appears at KI. They've gotten some pretty darn good response to just the infrastructure and small-ish capitol addition they made this year. Their return on investment *seems* to have really boosted attention to the park. That speaks volumes - and I expect the park will follow suit with more broadly-based additions. That having been said, I do shake my head a bit to think that the park hasn't even acknowledged next years "rumored" coaster, and already the topic is changing to a potential follow-up coaster. Makes me chuckle to myself.
  25. 11 points
    sixohdieselrage

    Decoding 2020

    That is a thiccc spine. And I love the color!
  26. 11 points
    Skibum

    Decoding 2020

    I remember when Paramount basically stated this. They also stated that they were focusing on family-oriented rides and missed the fact that regional parks like KI probably have a higher reliance on rides that drive attendance, which is more thrill ride related. Family rides augment the offering but I'm not sure that they drive attendance up significantly. I am so happy that Cedar Fair bought the Paramount parks. They really cleaned up Kings Island, in my opinion, and they have added some major rides on a consistent enough basis to keep the park fresh and fun. This giga (near enough if we're right on the height) continues that trend. The current guesses look like great ride experiences and I am pretty excited for 2020. Now, if only the rain would cut back some so that I can get back to my weekly visits.
  27. 11 points
    thatguyfromohio

    Decoding 2020

    Guys. If you look at those pics, one of the track pieces has a built on support. And its gloss. I called it. Blue and concrete gray. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  28. 10 points
    Zayzayd13

    Decoding 2020

    Banshee’s introduction video is iconic imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  29. 10 points
    BSBMX

    Decoding 2020

    KIGA update: so yesterday at about late morning and early afternoon (both after my daily morning check), both the ORION and POLARIS trademarks got an update. After the initial application, the first step on the USPTO side is for each application to get assigned an examiner and have an initial database search (to see if these new trademarks could potentially be confused or infringe upon existing trademarks). Yesterday, both trademark applications had that happen. These are called "XSearch Search Summary" if you wish to look them up. Comparing both Orion's and Polaris' search results to Hangtime or Copperhead Strike doesn't really reveal much. Even the original "Fury" application, which got temporarily refused due to "likelihood of confusion" with another existing trademark, looks similar at this point, so I cannot see any indication for approval or refusal at this stage. BUT, if I use HT or CHS's applications as reference, then we should see additional updates to both Polaris' and Orion's applications next week. The examiner will send a letter to CF for both trademark applications with results in their search, which will then tell us about initial acceptance or refusal for both. Over the next month or so, I expect to see several updates to both trademark applications. If either gets refused, then can could signal that CF will abandon that trademark, or modify it slightly (similar to what changed "Fury" into "Fury 325"). I cannot link to what I'm viewing because it's an active search (and would only show "SEARCH EXPIRED" on your end), so you'll need to search it on your own if you're interested. One of my past posts in this thread goes into detail of how to do this, if you're interested. Shown below are screenshots of the initial search results. Note how complex their search is, even including misspellings and slightly different spellings of the words.
  30. 10 points
    fryoj

    Decoding 2020

    Anyone going into a thread that is specifically designed to figure out what a new ride is absolutely cannot complain that they ... found out what the new ride is. Theres no real way to do a spoiler thread/non-spoiler thread. Even if you do one where you can only talk about what's been officially released or can be seen at the park, people are going to speculate in the non-spoiler thread and people will slip and correct people when they make incorrect speculation. Then you have the whole deal where the spoiler thread goes off the rails and new threads are created for "what's next" and all that. People will wander into those threads and be spoiled. I don't get the need to stretch it out all Summer for some people. Pretty much every coaster at every park gets spoiled at this point. If you want to be completely surprised when the park announces something, message boards aren't a good idea for you. That includes reddit and the park's social media. Even the comments there lay out what's coming. If you want to truly decode, you pretty much need to solo it.
  31. 10 points
    Shaggy

    Decoding 2020

  32. 10 points
    XBeastGirlX

    Decoding 2020

    I wonder who actually hangs up the teasers? It could just be a supervisor or employee who is told the morning of, but I personally like to imagine Don zooming through KI in the middle of the night on a golf cart, dressed in all black, armed with a staple gun and some teaser posters
  33. 10 points
    Maverick44

    Decoding 2020

    So here are some of the pics I took while down at CSF. like I said nothing really new at all. Sorry for double post.
  34. 10 points
    IndyGuy4KI

    Decoding 2020

    We want things to stay positive on KIC and as Maverick said, be a big family. Dicussing and going back and forth over who is negative with each other is not productive in the forum (especially in this thread.) If you did not like what someone posted, then send them a PM to let them respectfully know how you feel or get clarification on their post. If their post is violating the TOS, then please use the report button so a mod can take care of it. As far as this thread, it will remain and not be renamed. A new contruction thread will be coming really soon.
  35. 10 points
    Wolf Like Me

    Decoding 2020

    Ha ha oh my god there is something seriously wrong with some of the people who post on this message board. I stopped posting here about 10 years ago due to the overwhelming negativity and while it's not as bad now and it seems like most users are really cool people, there are still plenty of rude, hostile, know-it-all posters who really bring a negative vibe to this site. For whatever reason, I've noticed most of these people are high post count members, so I'm not sure if it's some sort of seniority complex or what's going on there. The amount of stupid arguments I've been reading in this thread is astounding, with the latest being probably the most pathetic and embarrassing. Beyond that, the amount of know-it-alls who correct every little single thing in a hostile manner are almost unbearable and are truly the worst aspect of this site, with the corrections on "footings" and "footers" being just a very small, mild example of the pettiness that some users engage in. Again, most people here seem super friendly and are just here to have a great time but there are some very obvious sore thumbs here who create a negative aura that is not welcoming. I know some users will be super offended and won't be able to resist the smart ass replies, so by all means continue to do what you do, but be aware you're part of the reason more people aren't active here.
  36. 10 points
    kissfan4

    Decoding 2020

    Why would anyone be a part of a deciding thread, then get upset when that is accomplished? Doesnt make sense to me.
  37. 10 points
    SonofBaconator

    Decoding 2020

    Green and white.
  38. 10 points
    Magenta Lizard

    Decoding 2020

    Several dozens or more pages back, there was someone complaining that blueprints and other technical information gleaned from those prints were “spoiling” the surprise of the new coaster. Complaining. About decoding. In the clearly labeled decoding thread. That is easy to avoid by not clicking on it. Unfortunately there are always going to be people who are more interested in attempting to control others’ behavior, even/especially when it is not their place to do so, rather than focusing on modifying their own behavior in perfectly simple and reasonable ways... Usually when I don’t like the way a thread is going I try to steer it back with content rather than complaints. So on that note I’d like to revisit the suggestion that the previous Board to Death/Chaos Haunt building was repainted this year in colors that look suspiciously like the Giga. There was one pic but it got kind of washed away by something else happening. I think it would be expert level hinting by the park if they hid that in plain site and we all missed it while searching fervently for teasers I'm going to look to see if I have any photos of the building before this year, if someone else has some please share
  39. 10 points
  40. 10 points
    collin.klopfstein

    Decoding 2020

  41. 10 points
    JonahWilliamson

    Decoding 2020

    heck with teasers show me the rest of 'stop_boobie_cancer's meme
  42. 10 points
    Fye Coasters

    Decoding 2020

    I was there last night.
  43. 10 points
    BSBMX

    Decoding 2020

    Does this scratch paint?
  44. 10 points
    Jallie79

    Decoding 2020

    In regards to the Wolverines theme. I mean they kinda are building a coaster that's going to let down a bunch of people that guaranteed this was the year we were getting the number 1 coaster. So I guess they could make that theme work. Just dont put a goal line before the brake run. It will never complete a circut.
  45. 10 points
    befat

    Decoding 2020

    I think I know what happened here: B&M: Yo Hershey, you like this color for your supports? HP: Yea B&M: Yo KI, you like this color for your supports? KI: Yea B&M: Yes, hello? Can we just double that order of gray paint?
  46. 10 points
    Codyfryguy

    Decoding 2020

    Wait.. we have 2 spy planes now?!?! Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
  47. 9 points
    FUN&ONLY!

    Decoding 2020

    I think the park wanted to build a giga, and they thought why spend the extra $10 million on the ride when you would get the same outcome while saving that $10 million. The park probably looks at buying a new rollercoaster through a cost to outcome ratio, in which a higher attendance is the better outcome.
  48. 9 points
    sixohdieselrage

    Decoding 2020

    You forgot @Captain Nemo and myself (plus my friend, who wants to stay anonymous)... We could have made the pictures blurry to the point of "cant see anything". lol
  49. 9 points
    ldhudsonjr

    Decoding 2020

    I guess I just don't get this mindset. If the information is out there and available, I don't see why you wouldn't want it posted in a thread thats entire purpose is figuring out what kind of ride Kings Island is building. How would this process have been more interesting if we decided to remain blind and just guess the whole time? All I'm saying is that it seems weird to open up a decoding thread but then act as if people did something wrong looking for answers. Don't misunderstand, I see how it could spoil the fun for some people, but I guess my advice would be, don't visit the decoding thread?
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