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  1. 7 points
    I was reading through some of the responses Kings Dominion has gotten on FB over the removal.... Man people are such drama queens. I can understand being disappointed and even angry - but not to the point of getting verbally vicious with people you don't know over a coaster. Count me in as one that isn't surprised by the removal. Its always been "temperamental." It did have a good run - 20 years, that's nothing to sneeze at. Remember, if you took the collective total number of days "The Bat" at Kings Island operated it would amount to less than one season. Now "Volcano" gets to become one of those "There once was a coaster named _____ and I got to ride it" rides that will be ingrained into KD's history. Now, here's my personal feelings. I "liked" the coaster - but it wasn't the end-all-be-all. My reaction the first time I saw it being built was "They've ruined the mountain." They literally butchered the original "Lost World/Fantasy Mountain" structure to install it. On top of that, the ride's structure looked ridiculous IMO. They could have done a MUCH better job with the structure as to not obscure the mountain. It looked like scaffolding... like the mountain was in a constant state of repair. Also they lopped probably 20 feet off the top and removed the elaborate waterfall to install the blast hole - which really bummed me. The first time I rode it (I rode many times over the years), I was underwhelmed. It was fun, don't get me wrong, but I remember the general feeling was "That's it?" I remember being surprised that the initial launch was not what propelled you out of the top... rather it was just a launch into a long straightaway and then a wide turn behind it. It was back behind it that you realized they basically cut out the most of the back of the mountain. Imagine if the straightaway and turn had been enclosed! After the inversion out of the top, the ride slowed to a crawl. The barrel rolls were some of the slowest I've ever experienced and although fun, it wasn't necessarily "scary." But then, the coaster did a swooping, fast dive down into.... brakes.... wah wah. Everyone.... and I mean EVERYONE I rode it with over the years always said it was a let down - especially the ending. It's finale was on par with Adventure Express... a big build up to... the final break run. Now, you have to understand that the first time I went to Kings Dominion, the mountain was brand new... they were literally still putting the finishing touches on it. I was in awe of it - and I remember vividly how it looked and how amazing it was to look at. My parents and I waited an eternity to ride "Land of the Dooz." I wouldn't get on "Atlantis" the precursor to "Haunted River" (which I rode many, many times.) Also, my dad always told the story he waited for nearly 2 hours with me to ride "The Time Shaft" - only when we got there and I saw what it did I chickened out (I was 6 years old.) Finally, many don't remember that there was another ride on the right side of the mountain called "Mount Kilimajaro" which was a Bayern Curve that went in and out of the facade. That having been said, my opinion of Volcano was always kind of stilted because I missed the grandeur of the original Mountain. It was a good idea, in theory. And Lord knows by the time Volcano arrived the Mountain needed something (during the early Paramount years - it fell into such disrepair that it was embarrassing.) But in retrospect, I probably would have been more thrilled if they had just done a major refurbishment of the original rides. My biggest concern in all of this is that they will demolish the entire mountain. Sounds like they will. Knowing how badly it was kept, only to be gutted and ravaged by the installation of Volcano, I cant imagine it will be salvaged. That is what will really upset me. Frankly, when I think of KD, the Mountain always comes to mind... more so than their Eiffel Tower - because seeing it for the first time as a kid was such a "WOW" moment in my life. I guess I'm just lucky I got to see, ride and enjoy it in all incarnations. Finally - below is a write-up I did on another board many years ago when someone asked about the original mountain. It gives a bit of insight as to it's original history. The mountain was not built for "Volcano." It was there for many years before the roller coaster was added. It was originally built for the 1978 season. It was called "The Lost World: Fantasy Mountain." and when it opened, it had 4 rides. Those rides were "Professor Backenforth's Journey into the Land of the Dooz", "Time Shaft","Mt Kilimanjaro" and a dark boat ride called "Journey to Altlantis." -"Land of the Dooz" was a family themed ride in which you rode a train through the mountain and past various animated scenes. -"Time Shaft" was an indoor Rotor. A Rotor is a round room in which guests enter, it spins, they stick to the wall and the floor drops out beneath their feet. This ride was unique because it was all the way inside the mountain and had an elaborate lighting and music effect system. -"Mt. Kilimanjaro" was a Bayern Curve that ran in and out of a side portion of the mountain. A Bayern Curve is a bobsled-type attraction that was popular many years ago. It is a simple idea where you sit in a train of cars that traverse a circular track. As the ride continues, the bobsled picks up speed. -"Journey to Atlantis" dark boat ride they had only lasted the first season. It was changed for 1979 into "The Haunted River" which was a heavily themed scary boat ride excursion into various haunted scenes. It ended with a big splash down drop outside the mountain. In 1984, "Land of the Dooz" was changed into "Smurf Mountain." It still used the same train and course, but the Smurf characters were put in place of the "Dooz" characters. Although I am not exactly sure when, in the 1980's "Mt Kilimanjaro" also disappeared. You can still see where the ride existed though. It is the grown-over portion of the mountain nearest to the entrance to the Flight of Fear plaza. By the mid 1990's the "Haunted River" and "Smurf Mountain" were worse for the wear and were closed. Some of the treasure relics of "Haunted River" were moved into the re-themed "Yogi's Cave" in Hannah Barbera Land. The queue for "Smurf Mountain" and "Haunted River" were combined to form the queue for "Volcano." The station for "The Haunted River" is now the "Volcano" exit and gift shop. You can still see where the boats flowed through a trough up to the station. PKD has an original "Haunted River" boat permanently placed in that area now. All the skeletons from "Haunted River" were used as decorations in the exit. The entrance and tunnel that led guests into the mountain and to "The Time Shaft" was widened and opened up and became "Volcano's" launch tunnel. The old station you see is probably the one that is pretty high up in the mountain and was actually not a station. Rather it was there for decoration only. On a similar note, you can still see the tracks from the old "Dooz" and/or "Smurf" ride when you are in the station of Volcano. If you look up the side of the mountain where the small waterfall is, you can see where the tracks were simply cut off with a blowtorch. Finally, when "Volcano" was added, quite a bit was chopped off the top of the mountain's peak in order to widen the opening for the coaster. I would say a good 15 feet was removed. Prior to "Volcano" the mountain did not shoot fire, but rather had a wonderful large waterfall from the very top. Really, the mountain is a shell of its former self. Although I like Volcano and think it is fun, I personally think it ruined the look of the mountain. Volcano has way too much scaffolding supports around it and obscures the mountain itself. The designers should have spent more time and attention and used as few supports as possible. Finally, "Lost World: Fantasy Mountain" was the initial "test" for an even larger mountain project that the original owners of the park were planning. They were in initial design stages for Canada's Wonderland in Toronto. That park's signature piece is a large mountain built in the very same manner (although about 3 times the size) as Dominions. The difference was, when Wonderland's opened, there were no rides housed inside it. That has now changed over time.
  2. 3 points
    I just got back from the Magic Kingdom, I want to say the prices for meals were actually cheaper there vs Kings Island. Anyone noticed this? I could be wrong. .... and random note.... I'm pretty sure the Chickfla at Cedar Point is much cheaper then Kings Islands.
  3. 2 points
    I cannot say I am surprised, the ride has had significant downtime and been a maintenance nightmare. Whatever failed last year is obviously significant enough that it’s not worth fixing. This is one of the highest profile rides at the park and makes me wonder what other rides are no longer safe. Cedar Fair still has several other very expensive to operate coasters, how many other coasters are a significant failure away from being removed? How many other rides are being examined for removal due to maintenance costs?
  4. 2 points
    With the speculation of a giga going to the north side of the park, I wonder if adding sand is something the park would consider doing. Sand was added to Leviathan to reduce the noise during the first drop.
  5. 2 points
    Maybe this is a possibility if the trees are removed?
  6. 2 points
    I’ve been to KD several times and always had limited “play” time inside the park. Every time I was there Volcano was down. I never got to ride. To me, I feel sorry for some of the KD guests who, while I do believe that this was unavoidable in this situation, bought season passes and tickets without knowing that this wouldn’t be part of the lineup. It’s kind of like buying tickets to a music festival and one of the headliners cancels.
  7. 2 points
    I mean that commercial is decent but the original Bat commercial & Beast commercial put it to shame in my opinion. But still better then the annoyingly chatchy fun & only commercial.
  8. 2 points
    That's too soon, bro. The wound is fresh. [emoji6] Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
  9. 2 points
    No. Outpost 5 is in reference to the recordings that used to play in Adventure Express' queue line. "All aboard the express for Outpost 5." The loose storyline to AE was that you were boarding a mine train to that specific outpost and interspersed were reports from the "station master" who mentioned that one track was closed, one expedition had gone missing (and that the search was called off), etc. I think it was "track 2" that was closed (and there used be a sign reading something like "Track 2. Closed. Do not enter!" when your train entered the first tunnel. And the expedition was... the "Richards Expedition?" Anyways, yeah, that's what Outpost 5 is in reference too on the side of Son of Beast's old station. Fun Fact: for years, Adventure Express had the Indiana Jones theme playing in its queue line between announcements from the "station master." This music, along with the ride's general theme, gave the distinct impression that the ride was Indiana Jones themed. However, it never was directly. Paramount's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (the one that features a mine cart sequence) debuted in 1984, and the final film in Paramount's series (Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade) debuted in 1989. Adventure Express opened in 1991. Paramount acquired the park in 1992/1993.
  10. 1 point
    I hope not, nothing better then a B&M roar. Do Diamondback or Banshee have sand in them?
  11. 1 point
    I was talking to a friend about the IS makeover (she's not even really a Kings Island "enthusiast"). She thinks they're probably going to do video projections onto the buildings. Might be kind of cool for both WF and Haunt.
  12. 1 point
    My first visit to Kings Dominion was in July 2017 and Volcano was down, so I was kinda bummed about that. I ended up going back last year for opening weekend and was fortunate to ride it several times. It was probably my favorite coaster at the park and I’m incredibly sad to see it go. Although I do understand why the park chose to close it and I’m sure it was not an easy decision to make. It was SBNO most of last year so it’s not like I’m completely shocked or anything. Hopefully something good will replace it within the next few years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  13. 1 point
    I asked their maintenance guys and they said it had something to do with the LIM or LSMs or whichever it used.
  14. 1 point
    I feel like I can stir the pot a little. Not our track, but still interesting. Look on far right.
  15. 1 point
    Not unexpected... Still sad though... Volcano was a lot of fun to ride...
  16. 1 point
    ^^^ That is very good to know... Hoping I can fit in a trip to MiA someday to find out!!! While not top tier rides, I generally enjoy old Arrow coasters...
  17. 1 point
    How about a B&M strapped with LIM's/LSM's that can go 200 ft?
  18. 1 point
    One of my favorite Cedar Fair promo videos:
  19. 1 point
    I agree with @chugh43 that possibly a MACK could be installed. Due to the early demise of Volcano and a need to fill the spot quickly, I assume it will be a fiscally sound option to fill the gap. My top 3 guesses would probably be a MACK, Gerstlauer, or GCI (Non-Kiddie Coaster), as they would be a something that could be installed at a lower cost and something their direct competitor BGW does not have. Sorry, Michigan's Adventure it looks like more trash cans for you. LOL
  20. 1 point
    I miss the cinematic feel that Paramount had in their advertisements as well as in different parts of the park. As someone who grew up im the Paramount era, commercials like these were nostalgic to me
  21. 1 point
    This just in.....Kings Island's new 2020 Coaster -- Volcano The Blowing Up Coaster!
  22. 1 point
    That’s my biggest complaint about the park food, the quality does not justify the price. I wouldn’t be nearly as upset if I could have one of the following: 1. HOT, decent tasting food at the current prices...then I could at least say “Yes, it is pricey, but it tastes pretty good”. 2. The current quality of food at lower prices, then my mindset would be “Yeah it’s not great but at least it’s not that expensive”. Anyone that knows me, knows that I love the park...but eating at the park is my least favorite thing to do there, it is the only time that I feel like we the customers are treated like cattle. It is too much trouble to complain when we get cold or dried out food, so we just live with it...but we (my family) have been cutting down more and more on how often we eat inside the park when we go.
  23. 1 point
    ^Its factually true. I've ridden Michigan's Adventure's Corkscrew and CP's Corkscrew within days of each other, which was built around the same time and has similar rolling stock, but the floor is lower on the Muskegon ride than the Sandusky version. I'm on the shorter side and I'm still cramped on CP's Corkscrew. MIA's on the other hand is really fun for its size and age. Its quite re-rideable, and it doesn't hurt it has a flashy paint job.
  24. 1 point
    A long tunnel that is curvy in complete darkness in the daytime would be amazing.
  25. 1 point
    I'm back with another giga concept named Steel Beast
  26. 1 point
    It's a park renovation. Why on earth burn plane fuel and money to sneak a peak. Commercial flights come no where close to flying low enough to grab a picture- besides, I don't think pilots take flight pattern requests. It's only a couple months. take a deep breath; go sledding; take up a hobby; and wait. It'll be OK.
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