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  1. With that explanation then Fury 325 and Leviathan are hypers as well since B&M doesn’t use the term giga. A giga coaster is whatever Cedar Fair defines it. The coaster could be absolutely flat, and then drop 305ft from the station to be a giga. Who really cares what is. It’s an amazing ride that dominants the skyline. When you’re on it you’re eye level with WindSeeker. 13 ft doesn’t make a difference.
    5 points
  2. How tall would Orion be if it was built on flat ground? Around 305 feet tall. How tall would it be if instead of a slight rise in ground level under the lift there was instead around a 25 foot drop in ground level? 330+ feet tall, making it the “tallest” giga. Would it actually deserve that title, no. Either way it’s the same ride, just more steel would have been used. If either of those were true no one would even question if it was a giga. Frankly it’s time for this stupid pointless debate to end and to move on. Height is a terrible measurement on its own because fantastic ri
    4 points
  3. People question it because its the 1st giga to have a 300ft drop but not have its highest peak crest the 300ft mark. If Orion was 300ft with a 287ft drop you'd have people saying its not a giga because the drop isn't 300ft. You fall 300ft regardless of height so its a giga.
    4 points
  4. Cedar Fair themselves coined the term giga, so they have the authority to modify that definition as needed. As of 2020, they define a giga coaster as any coaster with a height or drop of at least 300 feet, the latter of which Orion has. If Orion is not a giga, then that means Phantom's Revenge at Kennywood (168 ft tall; 228-ft second drop) is not a hyper. I have not heard anyone question whether Phantom's Revenge is a hyper.
    4 points
  5. Since this at least brought up the conversation of something new in Action Zone, I decided to work on a concept RMC for the area. Im definitely not the best at this stuff and there is definitely some changes I want to make to the layout but I feel comfortable showing my progress. Should be, at the very least, a fun little thing.
    3 points
  6. Here's one interesting 50th anniversary idea that I have. Maybe Kings Island could get rid of Boo Blasters, without tearing down the show building of coarse. By doing that they could re-theme the ride back to, wait for it, The Phantom Theater! I think if Kings Island did that, I'm willing to bet that it'll probably please a good amount of their fans. Below is some old concept art for the ride.
    3 points
  7. This argument is SOOOOO 2019....
    3 points
  8. Maybe they could take away interactive stuff and re theme it back to The Phantom Theater. Especially since the park's 50th anniversary is coming up soon in 2022.
    3 points
  9. Would be cool to see a Zamperla Super Air Race maybe in the Area 72 and continue to expand that area. The ride fits the theme.
    3 points
  10. This doesn't ultimately matter that much, but did Cedar Fair coin the term "giga?" I definitely thought that was Intamin's term, and Cedar Fair took it and ran with it when coaster enthusiasts started applying it to non-Intamin coasters that are 300-399 feet tall. There are small plaques on Millennium Force's trains that say something along the lines of "Intamin Giga Coaster."
    3 points
  11. This thread and any like it are just meant to stir the pot and also beat a dead horse. They should be locked. This has been discussed to death and so much so that the word Budget typed besides coaster was banned.
    3 points
  12. This was a pleasant surprise while walking out last night. All red, white, and blue!
    3 points
  13. It's kind of hard to believe that in 2022 Kings Island will turn 50 YEARS OLD! So, here's the question: What are some things that you would like Kings Island to do? Is there an old attraction that you want see come back? Maybe a Kings Island museum?
    2 points
  14. I can’t picture the park ever having a museum....it would only remind guests of rides they might miss...they always want to have everyone looking into the future, not the past. (Not that I wouldn’t love to see one though.) My number one thing would be for a red, white & blue Racer for the anniversary.
    2 points
  15. It doesn't really make sense to build in Michigan because Cedar Point and SFGAm have a hold on all of Michigan's market. MIA is more of a niche park. I will agree that MIA could use more love. I think they could use another 1 or 2 good family coasters and 1 higher thrill coaster (something like a Eurofighter) with some additional flats. The area by Thunderhawk could use some expansion, perhaps make it loop back around the other side of Wolverine Wildcat back to Shivering Timbers. Back to your regularly scheduled giga discussion.
    2 points
  16. For my personal definition, a giga is a coaster with a drop that starts from 300-399 ft up and/or has a 300-399 ft drop with no elements that go above that. For example with my similar application of a hyper coaster with the above applying to 200-299 ft, I include Phantom's Revenge in that category with its 230 ft second drop although you never go up that amount. This is just my personal definition and I don't care how others apply it.
    2 points
  17. It really doesn't matter at all to me, but I do think they changed the definition of giga to include Orion. Before Orion, I don't remember anyone debating whether giga meant 300' total height or length of drop. Seems to me it was always understood to mean total height. If CF says it's a giga, it's a giga. But if the term ever had any significant meaning, I'd argue it has less so now, since they've expanded it to include Orion.
    2 points
  18. That El Chupacabra is calling my name. And the Dragon Breath Wings, El Diablo Cupcake, and that Cinnamon Cider! (Can you tell I like spicy food?)
    2 points
  19. In my opinion, Orion is a giga coaster. Why? Well, simply because the change in elevation between the top of the lift hill and the bottom of the first drop is at least 300 feet. And may I add, an awesome first drop.
    2 points
  20. There are a new set of markers running along the drop off lot. It’s possibly for a new drop off lot, or a redesign of the entrance and exit lanes.
    2 points
  21. I would disagree. I think it adds to the character of the ride. I honestly couldn't imagine the ride without it. Also tunnels, whether short or long, really make a difference at night when you're riding in the darkness and all the sudden things get loud. I remember riding Mystic at night and the quick loudness of the tunnel was something I wasn't expecting.
    2 points
  22. "Cedar Fair defined what a giga coaster is. The coaster enthusiasts did not define that. Cedar Fair defined a giga coaster as being either a height or a drop of at least 300 feet, and it [Orion] meets that definition."--Mike Koontz
    2 points
  23. A lot of potential for this spot, whatever is coming down the road I personally want it to be big. In theory, you could fit a 200fter in that spot but the jury's out on the possibility of that happening. Personally I'd like to see the following elements come to KI: a Sea Serpent, a zero-g stall, and a banana roll. Ironically the aforementioned elements can be found on Steel Curtain which is an S&S coaster that hits 200ft in height. I know I've been adamant about the park getting a B&M floorless coaster for quite some time but I also think it would be fitting if S&S came i
    2 points
  24. Guys, I found it! I found the perfect replacement for Vortex!
    2 points
  25. Enjoy your day on Saturday; say hi to The Bat for me!
    1 point
  26. After one day of no work completely devoted to just resting my muscles, I'm feeling much more optimistic about going this Saturday. I think I'll probably plan on getting to the park between 5-6 pm. Where would be the best place to redeem an online purchase of a FLP now-a-days?
    1 point
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  28. B&M marketed Fury & Orion as giga coasters at their IAAPA booths.
    1 point
  29. Intamin is the only manufacturer that offers a Giga Coaster in their catalog.
    1 point
  30. If you ever read Dick Kinzel's book, he talks about how he wanted to build a ground up park in Michigan but just decided to acquire Michigan's Adventure instead. Its kinda strange that they wanted to build a park yet they hardly added anything once they acquired MI. Maybe they thought the park had enough rides.
    1 point
  31. If Orion was 250ft with a 300ft drop I could see people complaining. Its not though. 13 feet isn't all that much of a difference in height. Just looking at the ride, you don't even notice. Again, you fall 300ft so its a giga. I agree with @SnakePlissken, this thread should be locked. Its going to turn into another debate section when the park and the chain have already called it a giga. If you don't want to call it that than fine, but people still going to ride it either way.
    1 point
  32. Yeah, that doesn't seem to make sense to me either, especially with seeing the Clifton Hill article showing the rides and the crowded midways. Also, @Shaggy, just want to say that those pictures of Astroworld were awesome! I've always thought the S&S Skyswatter rides were super cool, but unfortunately, there are none left! I would have loved to see one go to KI!
    1 point
  33. Great twilight photographs of International Street. Hopefully, late next summer we can again enjoy night rides and leaving KI during the near pitch black hours of early morning.
    1 point
  34. #WhatsInTheFesthaus #DontGoInTheFesthaus
    1 point
  35. Duck fat cooked french fries are divine.
    1 point
  36. Like others have said it is definitely a giga coaster. Yes I would have preferred it to have another element or two and have been a little taller but it is still a great coaster.
    1 point
  37. I think because its layout is pretty compact for the most part with it almost 100% running along side Racer. I don't think fans thought "out and back" when they imagined their giga.
    1 point
  38. Orion is great, but I feel like it was designed for a smaller American park and just copy/pasted here.
    1 point
  39. I don't get why people have to be so technical. There are only 9 coasters across the entire globe that feature a 300ft drop and Orion's one of them. And guess what- there's also 9 coasters across the globe that go over 90mph and Orion's one of them. If people are going to be petty just remember that some park's don't even hit 200ft.
    1 point
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  42. I’ve just always supposed that since Cedar Fair coined the term “giga coaster” then if they say it is then it is.
    1 point
  43. Carowinds is an awesome park. I really like it.
    1 point
  44. That it but I want at King's island not cedars pint
    1 point
  45. Yeah, I guess you’re right, it’s just I always get into arguments with someone who claims that wonderland will become condos in the future. So when have you visited Wonderland, and how many times have you visited? It has been said that the overall planning focus in the Greater Toronto Area changed when Wonderland was built, they originally wanted to develop more east of the city, but Wonderland made them develop more north of the city. As for hitting a condo building nearby....it’s not that bad yet lol, when walking inside the park, you do feel like you are isolated from the rea
    1 point
  46. Well to be honest, Kings Dominion hasn`t exactly been flourishing under Cedar Fair. Yes, they have received Twisted Timbers, but look at how many rides have been removed from that park. Especially in comparison to what has been added at nearby Busch Gardens Williamsburg.
    1 point
  47. Because Vortex ran for 33 seasons.
    1 point
  48. Why? It ties into Banshee's spooky theme. The other rides, with exception to Congo Falls are pretty neutral.
    1 point
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