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Let’s get that old paint scheme back and we’re set!

An update of the continued work on The Racer. This brought a tear to my eye, https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2021/may/kings-island-brings-back-beloved-original-logo-on-racer-roller-coaster-trains?fbclid=IwAR0ES-Hi4V3GU6mBO4oBaTVjuOhyFwQOhrdDkRvD5RYZ-JZWmJVlyfmmZFo

I know I keep posting these, I just can't stop making concepts based on new ideas and videos of Velocicoaster. In this one, I add a little enclosed prelaunch section where it'll stop before the launch similar to Velocicoaster. Then after the tophat instead of an immelman, I put an outer bank turn like what Pantheon has then a zero g stall following it. I also made the station a little higher and made it look like a mill and I also have the entrance and exits instead of being on the sides I have it on the front of the station below the platform and before the stairs under the station is where they'd have small lockers for loose items like phones and keys and stuff.

Is Orion a “filler coaster?” Was Vortex scrapped for a new ride? I would suggest checking out Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. You’ll find your answers in there.

Of all people IndyGuy derailed it.

How did this thread get so far off topic?

Yeah, you know, while they've got that nice red paint out that's on the sign, I hear fresh track is easy to paint!

I'd like to chime in on this. While prices do go up when rages rise, it's not nearly as much as some of you are making it seem. I did a study in college and worked directly with the CMO of White Castle to see if wages were raised to $15 per hour how much the price of products would increase. It was something like 15 cents per burger. Not a lot. For real world examples look at places like Buc-ee's, a popular gas station in the south (similar to WaWa). They have starting wages in the neighborhood of $15 per hour for front line positions. They match 401k contributions up to 4% (which is what I get as a ops manager at Disney ) and start off with 3 weeks PTO. Their prices are the same if not lower than competitors. Or look at Costco. Whatever side of the fence you're on, one thing is for sure: there is an overabundance of jobs requiring little skills, and a lack of potential workers to fill those spots. Looking at before the pandemic, I think we here in Florida were hovering around 4 to 7 % unemployed and we were struggling to fill positions. That's why you'll continue to see these pay increases, other unique benefits like tuition reimbursement, relaxed appearance guidelines (look at the disney look updates that happened last week) because companies are desperate to get people in the door.

A $30 million B&M Giga is not a "filler" coaster no matter how you try to frame it.

Everything is a walk-on right now! No lines anywhere!

^No one here is asking you to reveal if you did or not.

This is true. In this case, Diamondback, Banshee, and Mystic Timbers are also filler coasters as they filled gaps in Kings Island’s lineup.

In Coaster Sally's defense, Orion did "fill" a gap of a type of coaster we did not have before with it being a 300ft drop Giga.

Go further, define 'filler coaster'. A random 'example' isn't enough. Both of those were expensive record breaking coasters. And why is Orion one and why should anyone care? I legitimately don't know what that even means.

Would it still be a filler coaster to you if it was an Intamin?

What is a 'filler coaster' and why do people care so much if Orion is or isn't one?

Yeah, it was my fault. Not sure why I put that in this thread other than the talk about the filler coaster and my mind wondered. Sorry about that! I will issue myself a warning.

Oh for sure. I’ve been trying to buy a cabin in the pigeon forge area to rent out on Airbnb for the past 6 months. I’m constantly outbid with all cash offers and the realtor says most of them are international. The market is WILD right now.

I purposfully didn't include La Ronde since they have a coaster of a similar design. I doubt Magic Mountain will ever get a 4d coaster after Green Lantern's failure.

Contradicting to this thread, I wanted to point out that there are 6 parks in the chain that have yet to receive a 4D freespin. Imagine being St. Louis fans waiting for years for their new coaster only to know it'll most likely be a 4d freespin.

I got so excited when I first saw the front of the trains. When I saw the picture of the entrance, my excitement levels increased ten fold. I'm loving these improvements! Good job, Kings Island!

S&S Screamin Swing like Skyhawk, perhaps. That would even work in Rivertown, maybe on the corner of The Vortex plot next to the pizza place, or somewhere along the pathway towards the Eiffel Tower, like the open plot behind/next to Showplace that was last used for the Snoopy's Starlight Spectacular setup.

I think KI is also due for a decent flat, something on par with Delirium.

I'd like to see a general overhaul of some parts of Rivertown. Mainly, a more distinct area transition on the Planet Snoopy side, including returning the flume to Rivertown and integrating it with the "Miami River" overall theme they've been using, and bringing the theme appearance around Diamondback and over towards the walkways to Coney and IS more up to par with things they've done with Mystic, for example. They could essentially do to Rivertown with Mystic's theme quality and apply it like Orion's theme quality was used for all of Area 72.

Hmmm.... https://twitter.com/SDCAttractions/status/1388969302146043904 https://twitter.com/SDCAttractions/status/1388917820797464592

Sorry for the double post I thought of one more thing I would like to add. I think in the next 10 years you'll begin to see a dramatic shift in housing. Houses are getting bought up with all cash offers, usually much over the already astronomical asking price and with supply going down it'll only get much worse. I believe the big companies are going to begin building their own housing complexes to solve for this and make them stand out as employers. I've been pitching to Disney since I was brought on the need to offer housing AT COST to employees. This solves for so many issues and is another tactic at not only being able to fill open positions, but to fill them with top talent instead of just warm bodies. As it relates to KI, it is a much different business, but if I was in their HR department and desperate for people, I'd have to start thinking outside of the box with different benefits otherwise KI will continue to struggle with staffing.

Here is my non educational guess on the focus the next few years. Water park updates Planet Snoopy refresh Focus on family events like GC 4 to 5 years before the next coaster in Vortex's spot.

I don't know why people at the lower tier get upset if the highest tier loses some money?

Also a good rule I must add...no contacting people from the news media over things lol. I used to do that, but stopped when I was told the park hates it and especially now since I work there.

I could definitely see it being Silver Dollar City with their recent land clearing, but I am not sure how big the area being cleared is. I would love to see Cedar Fair add something new, but it does seem like they want to wait before investing in new attractions. Maybe they will add only smaller rides and not rollercoasters for 2022 besides Kings Dominion’s S&S 4D Free Spin.

My money is on Silver Dollar City, notice that FUN said they were freezing all nonessential capital expenditures, Kings Dominion has had Freefly track in their parking lot for more than a year now, then I doubt Six Flags will want to work with Gerslauer after the Texas Giant incident, as for SEAs, most of their parks already have all of their 2022 projects finalized from 2021, as they've said on conference calls that they are going to continue adding to their parks, and because of the challenging location aspect of it, I doubt this is going to Kentucky Kingdom (along with HFE stating that they are focusing more towards families), and Silver Dollar City has land actually being cleared right now, which is a good sign that it is indeed them, so my money is on Silver Dollar City.

I made a new updated concept based on @MrSourNinjas concept and new Intamin launches like Velocicoaster and Pantheon. The name is still Mustang and the skyroller and relocation of the gliders are still there. but instead of a Maverick like coaster, it's more like Velocicoaster.

People have turned it into a political thing unfortunately.

Orion costed $30 million lol. It's anything but a filler.

Sorry I couldn`t make the recording of this podcast. My wife gave birth to our third child, a healthy baby girl on Sunday, and we were just getting home from the hospital when this was recorded. We already have the next episode recorded, with another special guest, and former park employee. It was a fun interview. Stay tuned for the release of that episode. As always, if you have thoughts on subjects or special guests for future episodes, please let us know!

Ooh ooh, can I be on next! In all seriousness, great interview! Always enjoy hearing Don talk about his time at the park. You learn something new every time.

Keep an eye out for a podcast about this in a few weeks!

I will not reveal either way. My body my choice, I am guessing most on here are pro choice, as you are so pro vaccine, as this is the complete answer to this virus. I am not a scientist, nor do I spend hours upon hours by doing research for old numbers. We have vaccinations for the old viruses that have been proven and approved. These 3 available here are allowed, but not approved. It takes years to completely develop a vaccine that can be guaranteed. But, I guess we are a bunch of experts here. I have stated an opinion, that is apparently farther right then what most want to hear. I will keep my comments to myself from now on, since everyone wants to take everything to serious.