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  1. On opening weekend, while waiting in line for the Banshee queue to open, I heard someone say that they thought the Delirium tower was part of Banshee. And then later while in line for Racer I saw some guests in line looking over towards Adventure Express, they said that was the old Vortex station. Since that was passholder weekend, I would think that they would know those things.
    5 points
  2. Just go down to Dollywood and ride Tennessee Tornado with a full train at night. That thing really hauls and has no headbanging and you still get your Arrow looper fix.
    5 points
  3. When it went in, it was smooth as glass. For years after that it was a KI institution and in my youth, when the only coasters were Racer, Cobra, Vortex and Beast it was a favorite for sure. But over time it got super rough to the point where it simply wasn't that pleasant to ride. So while I'm not sad that they got rid of it, I'll always think very highly of it.
    3 points
  4. Pics or it didn’t happen! Oh, wait, this didn’t take long to get out. I’m normally very sympathetic to the company. You can’t blame them for being a victim of their own success. However, when you know exactly how many people will be in the park due to the reservation system you have both a unique advantage and a and lack of excuse for preparation. They knew exactly how this day was going to go well in advance. This is entirely on them. I get that they were short staffed. Okay, wouldn’t they have a pretty good idea that it might be a problem months ago? They sure as hell would have known when they launched the reservation system. Why did they allow that many people in the park when they only accommodate a fraction of it? Why are you closing lines because the crowd that you sold tickets to overwhelmed the system? Why did you open if you weren’t ready? What if an emergency had happened? Would the “staffing issues” be the excuse that is presented if someone where to get hurt? These are the things I think about.
    2 points
  5. I had a love/hate relationship with Vortex. I remember when it was built. I was about 8, and thought "there is no way I will ever ride that." It was a challenge all through my childhood, and I was so proud when I finally could say I rode it. It was one of the park's great thrill rides for a long time, and I still think that its first drop was one of the best in the park, and the weightlessness in the barrel rolls always gave me a good scare. But, as others have said, it didn't age well. It turned very rough. Sometimes I can handle that on a coaster -- The Beast is rough, but it never feels like the roughness outweighs the fun. With The Vortex, the headbanging was really bad. I'd smack my ear against the headrests every ride, and sometimes I'd leave with a headache. I took a few years off it. In 2019, we visited the park just a few weeks before it was announced the ride would be closed. I rode it again and that love/hate relationship was back. That first drop? Still great. Those barrel rolls? Still freaked me out. But when we got off, my ears hurt, my neck hurt, my back hurt. I got off and told my wife, "I think I've aged out of that one. Don't know if I'll ride it again." And the park made the decision for me. But I'm still sad it's gone. I think it was the most photogenic coaster in the park.
    2 points
  6. Wow, lots of negativity towards CP! IMHO, even on the worst day, CP is better than the best Six Flags park. I've had bad days there but never a "I'm never coming back" day. As mentioned earlier--international workforce is gone this year. They do not have a labor pool to draw from like other CF parks. Their pay is good. Even parks like KI in larger employment markets have a hard time filling positions and have relied on international workers. Then there are the Intamin downtime issues added into the weather issues with other rides. Add in the pent up demand that is going to be at all parks this summer, and you are going to have a bad time if you don't set your expectation appropriately.
    2 points
  7. Unless they got some needles and threads and spent A LOT of time, they did not sew grass. They SOWED grass seed.
    2 points
  8. I've actually heard way more complaints about Vortex from enthusiasts than I ever did from GP. My Gp friends weren't crazy about it or anything, but also I don't feel the gp forms super strong opinions about any of these rides. I think the people who really cared that Vortex was coming down were just people who have been going to KI a really long time. Like it kind of hit me in the feels a bit to see it come down, but that was just nostalgia. I don't miss riding it really at all.
    2 points
  9. I believe we have our next decoding topic folks Genuinely I have my wish lists but at the end of the day here are the facts: We literally just got a new coaster last year that some outlets are still saying is "new" for good reason. If the time tables are still on some form of track, I believe within 2 years we will see a food/Planet Snoopy addition, 3-4 for a waterpark addition, then 5-6 for a main park attraction. IMO we do not need a new coaster, at least for awhile. I think the park just is lopsided now with Orion (which I suspected before hand). We have a good top 3-4 lineup, but we don't really have a good support with our flat rides. Same can be said about our coasters but the last time we actually got a thrilling/active flat ride was in '03 with Delirium. I could very easily see this become the next tin box item in the park, just due to the time tables. With that being said, I'm not ruling out a coaster out right, as I believe there will be a coaster, it just might be awhile. I would absolutely love to see a RMC come to KI or a B&M floorless as honestly those are two items the park could really do a lot with. But what can I say, I'm just friends with the Dippin' Dots guy.
    2 points
  10. I just hope the food lines get sorted out as the season goes on [emoji14] I'm sure they will and it was just because everyone wanted to be at the park these last two weekends which is great, but I don't like standing in line for over 20 min just to get a drink lol. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
    2 points
  11. Tone it down? How could you possibly say that when we are obviously on track to get a 550 ft RMC T rex that’s 7000 ft long while setting the world inversion record?
    2 points
  12. I think there are a few things at play. 1. Isn't CP the park that depends on international visas the most? All of the other major CP parks are within 20 to 30 minutes of metro areas so they have a bigger domestic workforce population to pull from). 2. Operationally they struggle for whatever reason. It isn't just the Intamins either. Valravn and Raptor seem to have a lot of issues. KI, Wonderland, and Carowinds don't seem to have this issue. 3. I have joked that CP is the park you date and KI is the one you marry.
    2 points
  13. This notice covered both the years 2020 & 2021.
    2 points
  14. Hey guys, Short note, So I know it's been so long since I last made a thread but I just want to say that I'm glad it had so many fans and people were sad to see it go as well. Anyways, I would like to know your opinions on why you think Vortex was hated so much. I didn't hate it at all, The most fun thing to watch go around and around but also to feel the grip of The Vortex. Whenever I would ask a person are you sad that it's leaving I always got "no not really". I asked why and it was because it was too rough. I do agree with the roughness but I had a way to avoid that issue. You had to fight with the coaster. Pulling you head back as far away from the restraint as possible. It still hurt but it wasn't as bad. The roughness was the only issue I had heard about nothing else. Then I was told that the ride was too old. Yet you have Cedar Points corkscrew and Loch ness monster still operating. Something seemed off about it. Tell me what you guys think! Sincerely Vortex_Fan
    1 point
  15. I won't say that I hated Vortex but I did not like it, especially in the last few years of its operation. First reason was that the first drop to me was underwhelming after that long lift hill. Decent air time but shorter than expected (early on before I became used to it). After that, the coaster just didn't age well. The looping curve developed a snap and the turn into the midcourse brake became painful. The funny thing is that I rode it in 1988 for the first time and, as it aged, I did too and I think that also had part of the blame. It just became harder for me to enjoy. I still ride The Beast but I'm careful to try and get a middle car and to also sit on the middle row and avoid the axles. This has made it much easier for me and I leave the back (former favorite spot) to those who are in better shape to take the beating.
    1 point
  16. They gave us an extra year. That is not extirely true. They made all our passes and addons good for 2021. If you live in Canada or California did you get an "extra year? All parks canceled Winterfest Haunt and all other events for 2020. Some parks have canceled Winterfest for this year and Haunt is likely canceled again. For those with Platinum did Carowinds or King's Dominion open in March 2021 like normal? Was Knotts open in Jan? Today is May 17 2021 and can I cross the border and go to Canada's Wonderland with my platinum? Are park hours the same as we expected them to be when we bought our 2020 passes in 2019? IE wheres the midnight closing in the summer and 1am Haunt closes. Look at parks like Dorney who are not opening a full 7 day week at all during the summer. How about the fact that the parks that did open for 2020 opened in July or later. I do not see 2021 as an "extra year". If anything I still do not think as a platinum holder with meal,drink and Fast Lane plans that I have even got a normal 1 years worth. I could not use my drink plan as needed last Sat due to long lines. food was the same way and if you were at Cedar Point you were not getting your moneysworth from FLP. Will I renew for 2022? As it stands probably only my platinum pass and maybe not even that. I likely will go ahead and buy the pass even though I tell myself I should not because I'm in Columbus. I like being able to just hop in the car on a nice day and go to the park unplanned. Also most of my complaints and frustrations are aimed at Cedar Point and Cedar Fair as a whole not King's Island. For the most park I love King's Island and they do not do much wrong.
    1 point
  17. Glad to see you missed all the .....
    1 point
  18. 1. True, hopefully next year will bring back the international visas. Also, CP only has 50% of the workforce population of KI since no one lives in the water. 2. I concur. 3. I laugh (and concur) I couldn't agree more. Seems like people are forgetting that CP gave us an extra year for the passes and any add-ons. I believe that a TON of people went ahead last year and added on a meal plan at least (some even Fast Lane) to their passes since they would get 2 years out of it. This is just going to be a different year. Busy with lines as opposed to last year that was busy with social distancing and ride capacity restrictions. As I stated last year my wife and I will be renewing our platinum with meal plans. The move to be one of the first to act last year and to make such a generous move with adding all of 2021 sealed me for a customer for years to come.
    1 point
  19. The thing that gets me about walking by the site is not only the loss of the massive structure and the ride in action, but that area of the park feels eerily quiet now.
    1 point
  20. I believe 98% of the hate is the result of the head banging, uncomfortable hard seats, and (in my opinion) a claustrophobic feeling in the trains. I loved it though. Regarding the comparisons to Cedar Point Corkscrew and BG Loch Ness Monster…Vortex was built at a very high elevation compared to those two. Except for the final elements, everything was very high off the ground, which required more steel supports, which were more expensive to maintain. That height made Vortex all the more impressive visually, but I believe contributed to its shorter life.
    1 point
  21. The Vortex was a wonderful coaster from its birth until about 2005. As technology advanced, and people started to enjoy different restraints and smoother tracks The Vortex became obsolete. I don't think it was a hated coaster, it just aged and peoples tastes changed. The skyline of KI is changed forever, and I will miss the only roller coaster to ever intimidate me.
    1 point
  22. Land being seeded and strawed is not necessarily an indicator of how long a plot of land will sit vacant. Per stormwater regulations, any disturbed land that will be left idle for more than 21 days needs to be seeded and strawed, even if they plan on doing construction 25 days later...contractors complain all the time about that timeframe on active sites and have been known to occasionally move some dirt around to "loophole" that regulation LOL.
    1 point
  23. I loved Vortex. One of the best first drops on any coaster. Yes it was a little rough but nothing horrible. She was a ride I could always count on being open and hop on for a quick ride even on busy days.
    1 point
  24. Headbanging was it for me and my friends. I recall our last ride on it not so fondly. Afterwards we took an extra long lunch in the Festhaus and it was unanimous..."never again". It was gone a year later.
    1 point
  25. The headbanging and the transitions are the complaints I had always heard. It used to be considered one of the smoothest rides in the park but then we got our B&MS and the bar was raised. I think you'll find that more people hated Vortex AFTER we got our B&Ms vs before we got them.
    1 point
  26. A good time to post this which was made by our own @Thrill_Biscuit.
    1 point
  27. Introducing the longest... The fastest... The tallest... coaster ever built in Planet Snoopy
    1 point
  28. I don't think there is blame to be had on any person. I am hoping with her honeymoon phase this season that she can get more things changed for the better that may have been impossible before.
    1 point
  29. Be careful what you wish for... https://www.rockymtnconstruction.com/family-hybrid-coasters/
    1 point
  30. It was rough and a headbanger. Arrows were good in their time then once the 90's came other manufacturers made them obsolete.
    1 point
  31. Its reminiscent of when SOB was SBNO for three years which made Banshee's payoff a lot better all those years later. Vortex's land will sit vacant for a while and people will talk and speculate what'll go there. The good thing is we finally have our giga so people will *hopefully tone it down some and not fly off the handle with guesses considering we're missing a traditional sitdown multi looper. *I know I was asking a lot there when I said that hopefully people will tone it down.
    1 point
  32. Definitely a telescoping crane from Piqua Steel Company. These cranes are typically used in construction and maintenance. Not usually demolition. At KI, I would say it was used for something like, lifting a derailed railroad car or a heavy component of an amusement ride. Using it to work on Delirium makes sense.
    1 point
  33. The crane was used to work on Delirium. Sorry to burst your speculative bubble.
    1 point
  34. While the May opening doesn’t seem to work, Kings Island usually opens at the end of April, so they could have Passholder Preview Weekend at the very end of April, and have the ride officially open in May on Opening Day. I am still not sure that Kings Island will be getting the new Gerstlauer coaster though. At this point, I have no clue which park will get it.
    1 point
  35. The only part that really leans me away from KI is the fact we just got Orion and the coaster is planned to open in May of next year. Unless, CF wants us opening in May to be permanent moving forward, I just don't see it being us since we usually plan on opening our new coasters in April with the park.
    1 point
  36. Orion was $30M it's anything but a filler coaster lol
    1 point
  37. What if we are getting the Gerstlauer and Orion was a filler coaster?
    1 point
  38. BUMP** Was taking pics of Invertigo earlier, and a lady walks up and asks me if that was the new Orion roller coaster.
    1 point
  39. It might be to just make a repair on an existing ride and have nothing to do with 2022. Let's let this play out a bit more before we jump to it being a 2022 project.
    1 point
  40. I definitely think the entrance building needs some kind of overhaul. This website has been posted a ton but the concept art is awesome - http://matthunterross.com/kings-island. It's not a new building, just an addition of dormers and a large centerpiece. The idea of a legacy walk in Tower Gardens sounds great! I would hope to see lots of colorful banners around the park, maybe signs at the entrance of rides explaining their installation and any records they might have broken, & specialty food booths in different parts of the park. Definitely need to sell some kind of birthday cake lol
    1 point
  41. From comments made by Bob Chapek during yesterday's earnings call and an interview with CNBC, masks will most likely be dropping at Walt Disney World at some point this summer. Looks good for our July 17 trip to WDW!! https://wdwnt.com/2021/05/ceo-bob-chapek-confirms-walt-disney-world-mask-policy-will-change-this-summer/ Edit: Universal Orlando dropping outdoor masks starting tomorrow, 5/15! https://wdwnt.com/2021/05/breaking-universal-orlando-resort-no-longer-requiring-guests-to-wear-masks-outdoors-starting-tomorrow/
    1 point
  42. Based on what I read in the Kings Island book which if you haven't read i recommend reading it. You can purchase a kindle version pretty cheaply, I think we are going to see something in Planet Snoopy and a waterpark expansion before any new coaster addition.
    1 point
  43. Don't forget, that included hotel properties. So now you have cut that 100 mil down a bit for coasters.
    1 point
  44. So CF is investing 100 million into their parks for this year's improvements and rides for next year. The GG shuttle and free spin will be cheap allowing them to invest in CP's Gerstlauer.
    1 point
  45. It didn't break the record for steepest drop, that goes to the classic Gerstlauer Eurofighters like Speed: No Limits at Oakwood and Vild-Svinet at BonBon-Land. However, it was supposed to break the record for fastest inversion but that heartline roll got removed for too many G's that caused stress on the trains and the riders.
    1 point
  46. I enjoyed reading your review and I'm happy you were able to get in a ride! But the weather likely had some to do with that loss of momentum. That final day, the ride was moving a little slower, so it might not have done it justice.
    1 point
  47. Yeah, the few times I did interact with young kids, I tended to use my nice farmer voice (as opposed to yelling at them in my scarecrow voice). As a point of reference, this was when I was placed midway through the maze and I was scaring and giving directions. EDIT: As a last note, that was my favorite spot, as there were so many options.
    1 point
  48. Just heard a guest say that they're building "The New Beast" and it should be ready by next year. Why did no one tell me this?!? I should listen to the Dippin' Dots guy more often.
    1 point
  49. GP is evolving they are figuring their own comments out.
    1 point
  50. Yesterday in line for SOB some I overhead some girl asking "Are we in Ohio?"
    1 point
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