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  1. I visited CGA about 20 years ago. My first, and only, time (so far) seeing the park in person. I knew that it was surrounded by corporate buildings, but I was still shocked at just how shoe-horned it was. It is literally surrounded on 3 sides by an office park, and then a residential area on the other. It was obvious then that the park had no where to grow. Frankly, its a wonder this hasn't happened sooner. Its always fought battle after battle due to its location - especially with the 49'ers stadium adjacent. I hate to see the loss of a long-standing park, but can also understand how it makes financial sense. That land is like sitting on gold. I cant imagine that the 49'ers will not have some say as to how much developing the new land owners can do... they share the parking lot with PGA. P.S. - Count me on the side of not wanting any cast-off rides from CGA relocated to KI. I'd rather see them go to other parks. That having been said - send their flyers to Carowinds, and bring our Eagles back. Now THAT would make me happy.
    10 points
  2. Hopefully Mike/Kings Island can move quick and ask for the Skyride, so we could have one again. Would love to see that brought back.
    9 points
  3. 9 points
  4. I saw a picture posted on Facebook, I will not share here, but they are repairing the track section. They had the damaged section removed looked close to having a new section welded in.
    7 points
  5. I agree. If Kings Island really wanted to hide The Beast, they should remove Orion because it’s turnaround can be seen from The Beast. In all seriousness, a new rollercoaster could potentially completely hide The Beast’s station and first lift hill. When Vortex was still around, you couldn’t see The Beast at all from that stretch of midway. Yeah, there were some trees that helped hide The Beast that were a casualty of Vortex’s demolition. But Kings Island could still plant new trees around the layout of a new coaster. That plot of land needs a new coaster.
    6 points
  6. It's happening! It's happening! Finally getting that Giga bathroom I predicted in 2020.
    6 points
  7. Money was what drove this decision. They paid 150 million for it 3 years ago. Now selling it for 310 million. Even if you deduct the inflation out of the sales price, it's a very healthy return. Your reasons have plauged them for years and they knew these going into the purchase of the land., kind of like a nagging headache. I would imagine they had a pro and con list (also California being generally notoriously over regulated) and when a deal was offered at the price it was, they jumped to take the money and run.
    6 points
  8. I hope they find a new home for that double decker carousel.
    6 points
  9. I just caught up on this thread after seeing the headline on Screamscape re: the wheel incident. That talk of this being the end for The Bat scared me. That's one of my favorite rides in the park; I've been riding it since I was a kid! Also, it's one of the only remaining parts of Adventure Village (Skyflyer being the other one), so losing that piece of history would be unfortunate, to say the least. Though some complain about the long walk, I enjoy The Bat's secluded location and the foliage surrounding the ride. Though Orion is faster, cooler and newer, The Bat (fka Top Gun) will always have a place in my heart,
    6 points
  10. The wheel is simply replaced. They will not try to repair the wheel. The mechanism that holds the wheels in place probably just rotated around its axis that once a new wheel is put on it is back in alignment. Or they could replace that whole assembly. They inspect the rides/trains every day, so giving them Wednesday night until this morning is more than enough time to inspect the whole ride and make any fixes necessary. It isn't like they stop working when the park closes. We have seen maintenance completely change out an entire set of wheels from park close one night to park open the next day. You can see this sometimes in the beginning and end of season when the Diamondback wheels change colors overnight based on if they need softer or stiffer wheels based on temperature... We saw seatbelts show up overnight on Diamondback one year. One year we saw cameras for user POV on the seat in front of you show up on Banshee overnight and then after a few weeks they were removed overnight. They can get a lot done overnight. Then you throw on top of it the ride not running, and they can really move. I have not confirmed it is open yet, but the park would not re-open the ride if they were not confident that the ride is safe. It just isn't worth the risk.
    6 points
  11. Would’ve been fun if the “kid” was named Gary. Only those “in the know” would get it, but it would’ve been a brilliant reference.
    6 points
  12. King's Island needs to keep this classic around! I know you could build a new ride but something is lost when these older rides disappear. I mean this is one of 5 left in the entire world and the last ever built of the model so it deserves to live on. We already lost Vortex and Firehawk. Let's not lose The Bat or Top Gun as the true fans know it. If the people of Chicago can save the Whizzer who knows, Cincy might be able to save The Bat if we really tried..... However I do hope the damage is minimal and the ride reopens as quickly as possible. I remember when The Vortex chain broke and they had to get a new one...that repair took a couple months but they got it running again before the end of the season.
    6 points
  13. What a strange time to be a park fan in California these days! https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2022/06/28/gilroy-gardens-is-no-longer-managed-by-cedar-fair.html The two parties agreed to part ways quietly two months ago.
    5 points
  14. I disagree. Rather than just something, add the right thing, even if time passes. (Hopefully) good things come to those who wait.
    5 points
  15. The last year Cedar Fair published revenue and profit graphs which showed the individual parks in relation to each other was back in 2015 or 2016. But at the time CGA was middle of the chain for revenue, but either last or next to last in profitability. It was basically making around the same amount of money as Michigan's Adventure. Which is actually a huge improvement, a few years before that the park was dead last for profitability and it was not even close. The park is incredibly expensive to operate. I suspect Cedar Fair decided that the cost of continuing to invest is just not worth the returns they are getting. Especially when they are offered enough money to justify closing the park. At this point I am left wondering, when will the park close? I cannot see it being operated for another 11 years, it might be possible due to the lease but its up to 11 years, not that it will be 11 years, frankly I give it 2 or 3 years unless it sees a huge uptick in attendance due to the pending closure. What will move? I would love to see the Sky Ride move, shoot that would be an amazing addition to Kings Island, but its so old I wonder if Cedar Fair will move it. Old coasters like Demon, Woodstock Express, and Grizzly just seem like they will be scrapped. B&M coasters will likely be moved, so Flight Deck and Patriot. The only other coaster that I am pretty sure that will be moved is RailBlazer. Psycho Mouse might be moved, might be sold, but I do not think it will be scrapped. Gold Striker is a huge question mark, but I could see it being moved, its a lot of work to move a wood coaster but its pretty new and a very good layout.
    5 points
  16. Railblazer is probably a better fit at one of the smaller parks. Guess I need to get on Gold Striker before its gone.
    5 points
  17. I see two big things with the park that could have played a part in this decision - they have no room for expansion and the parking lots in the area are shared with Levi's Stadium (home of the San Francisco 49ers), so they have to close when the 49ers have a home game (and possibly whenever there's another event at the stadium). There may not be much that CF can do with the park, and that's prime real estate there.
    5 points
  18. Just announced: Michigan’s Adventure gets new roller coaster in 2033!
    5 points
  19. Yes, but some will complain it's not truly a Giga bathroom because there are only 280 doors because 20 of the stalls have 1 door for 2 stalls
    4 points
  20. There was a crane working on The Bat today. I saw it from the Adventure Express lift hill.
    4 points
  21. Look behind the sign lol. Some of the red bricks where people sit came loose and are now missing and just simply replacing them so that someone doesn't get hurt.
    4 points
  22. The slingshot towers are not present today in case I didn't make it clear three posts above lol.
    4 points
  23. The sky ride that was at Kings Island was relocated from Coney Island, and several other installations have been moved before, the one at Great Adventure is relocated from the Worlds Fair in Queens. All of these sky rides were built by one company Von Roll who also built the one at Cedar Point. The old Kings Island sky ride was the model that had small 2 person gondolas. This is a larger model with 4 person gondolas like what’s at Cedar Point. CGA has a pretty big installation, they have enough towers and cabins to basically get a third of a mile easily. For instance a station near Orion would stretch to Planet Snoopy, going over the launch tunnel on Flight of Fear, and the lift hills of Racer. Station between Racer and Flight of Fear could almost stretch to the Picnic Grove.
    4 points
  24. darn they're fast, not even Halloween yet original photo credit to TBKarate
    4 points
  25. 4 points
  26. And I see KI acquiring some of CGAs flats. Possibly Tiki Twirl, Centrifuge, Delirium, Orbit, and fingers crossed Delta Flyer/Eagle's Flight Sky Ride
    4 points
  27. Re-read the report. They have the opportunity to lease for "up to" another 11 years. I give it 3 years and its closed. I would start looking at other park s getting rides from CGA.
    4 points
  28. Agreed 100%! I too have rode this ride my entire life, and was startled by reading the above posts. If they ever did tear it down, whatever would go back there to replace it would never have that secluded feel that The Bat has, as you said.
    4 points
  29. As expected, due to the weather, the park does have a decent crowd. Walking around the park, I think the wait times are probably 5-10min too high on the app right now for most rides, but an influx of FastLaners can easily cause the time shown to be accurate, so they sometimes account for that as well in the estimate.
    4 points
  30. I believe many of the breakdown of rides (not just at KI) are due to numerous safety measures being put into place. The more sensors/ prox switches, the more opportunity for rides to go down. We use many sensors & prox switches in manufacturing and it does take a good while for things to "hum" consistently. To have a ride get to the point that all the sesnors/ prox switches are humming together seems like it wouldn't be difficult but with: weather changes, constant vibrations & "fixing" vs. "replacing" due to lack of resources (manpower OR equipment) some patience may be needed on our part.
    4 points
  31. Lots of fans here and I hope you can put up with me being a critic. It's for the good of all I'm at KI 2x a week since days started. I'd say 50% of the time Beast is down. We'd like to be safe... yes of course. From my limited attendance, I'd say Beast was down 30+ times since starting the daytime season. Here's some options to consider - the same thing broke 30x... sensors, wires, brakes, whatever. But same thing 30x - 30 different things have broken From an controls engineering standpoint, this is nuts. If it's the same thing over and over then it's a no-brainer to fix it. If it's different things breaking each time then why the heck didn't we figure this out two months ago. Would like to hear someone "make lemonade" out of these lemons. But IMO it's a bit unacceptable for a [former] main attraction to be this unreliable. Even if it's redundant systems disagreeing. Plz forgive my criticism but this isn't ho-hum oops stuff breaks it's all new
    4 points
  32. I said in an above post that if the damage was only confined to that one spot, it would be up and running in a couple of days.... But I think there are more issues than the pictures show and isn't open...
    4 points
  33. Gallery of 150 pictures: https://kicentral.com/photos/off-the-rails Video Preview of the show!
    4 points
  34. Also guilty, but my number may be a little higher by a lot…
    4 points
  35. You do realize that the performers in the parade are in the Club show right? They need time to change and need a break after 45+ minutes walking/performing (especially in the heat as it has been). Plus if someone is watching shows continuously they aren't spending money in the park on food/drinks/games/merch/etc. After all they have added a 5th stop (at the front gate). As far as the concept art, it's exactly that. CONCEPT ART. No there is no basketball hoop man (like there is at CP 150th) and no spaghetti bowl (maybe couldn't get the license from Skyline or to have them pay for the costume in time?). Probably was a matter of employees and who could/would commit to a DAILY parade at 6:00 considering every other show has 1 day a week they are off. KI is doing a great job and I wish more people would be appreciative of what they have rather than what they could have. All in all I never expected this level this year. It reminds me of Winterfest. When they brought it back it exceeded my expectations and has stayed at the same high level since it came back. Carnivale, same thing. That's what gives me confidence that the summer entertainment is here to stay. It's much cheaper than a new ride and can be refreshed every couple of years (please keep Phantom around for 2 seasons :)).
    4 points
  36. And the two rolling present units would’ve looked great flanking the stage. The cake would’ve added some height to the area and made that whole space into a “party zone”. Wonder why they spaced them out. I agree that was one of the strongest parts of carvivsld they way it just flowed from one event into the other as the evening approached.
    4 points
  37. That project is going to require lots of glue & duct tape.
    4 points
  38. Just cought the last half of the preview show. It was absolutely fantastic! Can't wait to see the full show tomorrow. Nice mix of story and tricks. Must have had 25 or so people involved. KI has definetly upped the show game this year!!!!!! Thought I would add a bit more now that I'm home on my keyboard Like I said I got there about halfway through the show and they had the dancers, drummers, BMX, Roller Baldes, Scooters, Trampolines and a slackliner all at the same time, Too much to take in completely in one sitting but very impressive. I would guess it would be one to re-watch over and over considering it looks like the slackliner was pretty much vamping as well as the other artists. The show also had 2 hosts/singers (one boy, one girl) and a child was the star of the show who was very talented and I can't wait to see him get more comfortable in his role. Very upbeat music, nice story, plenty of action. Can't wait to see the full show tomorrow. If I had to guess the showtimes I would say 1, 2, 3, 4:30 and 5:30. If they do 5 shows a day. Again, that is a guess, we will find out tomorrow! Great Job to the cast and crew shows are back and better than ever at KI this year. Here's to hoping they keep the bar high now that they've raised it!
    4 points
  39. She represents the park well!
    4 points
  40. ^+1 exactly! We certainly don't need another round of basketball games LOL. Despite the official "reached its useful life" status, given the short notice, many believe that during a comprehensive inspection that it was determined that an expensive repair was on the horizon that accelerated when the useful life status hit....meaning that if that were the case, this was an unplanned piece of land to be slated for an attraction in the 5 year plan and thus had no plans slated...meaning that unless they revamped the CIP plan significantly (which can happen), that other attractions are already slated elsewhere and this one would be worked into the next round of planning cycles. Still surprised we haven't heard someone post a Son of Beast rumor next to The Beast so The Beast can watch over the child
    3 points
  41. Once again the sounds of live music have filled the midways of Kings Island kicking off the park’s 2022 Concert Series! Thousands came to the amusement park’s Timberwolf Amphitheatre to see American folk rock band, The Avett Brothers. This summer’s six concert series marks the most summer concerts at Kings Island since 1995, and the first time that park admission is not required to attend a concert and parking is free after 5:00 p.m. Next up at the park is Berlin & A Flock of Seagulls on Saturday, July 9. More information and tickets are available on the park’s website at visitkingsisland.com. Video:
    3 points
  42. Tiki Twirl would be cool but might be too similar to Surf Dog. Not sure if it's any bigger though. Different vehicle might make it different enough though. Same for Delirium. Same ride concept as our just smaller and facing inwards. This is my choice if could pick any flat from there. Love the building it runs through too to make it a little different. Give it a more Bavarian look and it would fit in great to Oktoberfest as a return of Bayern Kurve.
    3 points
  43. It really depends on what employee was asking. There are definitely some higher up employees who roam the park and are more in the know. On the other hand, there are thousands of seasonal workers who don’t know anything. However, I think there might be some merit to what the employee said because in my opinion the interaction sounds like was from someone who would be a higher up employee.
    3 points
  44. Was the source of these images from the park? I’m just curious because I wanted to know how well it sold. Naturally the park would cut it in a way that makes it look busy. Hope this is as successful as it looks! Great to see concerts back!!
    3 points
  45. Would have been more plausible if they had repainted it in camo! Lol
    3 points
  46. Apparently Adventure Express is gone according to one guest.
    3 points
  47. The ride did not have as many sensors when it opened.... Ir goes down for maybe 10min while maintenance resets it. Line clears and you get on faster than if it didn't go down. It isn't like it shuts down the rest of the day. Having maintenance reset it is part of the safety features to ensure the ride is not restarted prematurely. Sometimes they are close by and sometimes it takes a few minutes for them to get there. If you are so smart, then why don't you go work for the park and show them how it is done These are different than a car. A car isn't 7,361 feet long with sensors exposed to 24/7 elements. Reread what @Browntggrr posted about his experience with these types of sensors.... The downtimes have been getting less as the season goes on...so maybe you have just had bad luck timing..... Most of us would prefer a false fault and the small inconvenience of downtime than it missing a fault and the ride having an accident....
    3 points
  48. Up 21% thru Memorial Day compared to pre-pandemic 2019 despite 14 fewer operating days in 22 compared to 2019...Season pass sales up 24% and season pass add-ons up 46% compared to same period in 2019 https://ir.cedarfair.com/news/news-details/2022/Cedar-Fair-Reports-Record-Revenues-Through-the-Memorial-Day-Weekend/default.aspx
    3 points
  49. I watched the first show of Off The Rails. It is now my favorite show in the park. In my opinion, it tops Phantom Theater Encore hands down.
    3 points
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