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  1. On this Christmas Eve, I wanted to take a minute to wish everyone that is a part of the KIC Community a Merry Christmas and a happy, healthy holiday season. I look forward to seeing you at the park in 2021!
    24 points
  2. I can’t wait for everyone to read Kings Island: A Ride Through Time in spring 2021, when it will be published by Rivershore Creative! The book is moving full-steam ahead once again now that I have a contract signed with the new publisher. I promise that the wait will be worth it, as I’ve been spending this time filling the book with more content, more interviews, and more incredible stories.
    20 points
  3. We are working with KIE to migrate their whole gallery over to KIC's main site. Don't fret, it won't disappear.
    19 points
  4. Full update on safety protocols. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/welcoming-you-back Changes from Last Season: Reservations will only be required for visiting Soak City Water Park. Both Season Passholders and Single Day Ticketholders will need reservations for Soak City. Temperature checks for guests have been discontinued at the front gate. The health screen questionnaire will be conducted by associates at the front gate and will not be conducted through the Kings Island mobile app. There will be no limitations to ride capacity for most rides. Guests aged 10 years and older are required to wear face coverings while indoors, unless actively eating and drinking. Face coverings are not required outdoors unless it is not possible to maintain 6’ of social distancing. Face coverings should completely cover the nose and mouth, and not have exhalation valves or vents, which allows virus particles to escape.
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  5. The Train Photo Opportunity and Q&A was done this way so attendees can come and go at their leisure, have an opportunity to capture better photos, have more of conversation with the engineers and conductors, and just overall to make it a better experience for those interested in the story behind our steam trains. Having the Banshee backstage photo opportunity during the ERT session allows attendees to come and go at their leisure and offered us the chance to fit in two additional activities after the park opened, starting with the chance for everyone to ride the Grand Carousel together and to offer a book signing with Evan Ponstingle, author of Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. Now you may not care about a ride on the Grand Carousel, but for many of the attendees it's something they're going to enjoy doing together as a group. I'm the one who thought Flight of Fear ERT at night was a great idea. It's located next to Orion, near The Racer and falls within the footprint of where the night time ERT rides are located, which is Coney Mall, Area 72 and Rivertown. There are two different experiences being offered on Flight of Fear. One night it's lights on, the next night it's lights off. Where is the tour of the spaghetti bowl and Haunt maze walkthroughs? While things are getting back to normal from the COVID-19 pandemic, we're not there yet with being able to have a group of this size together in an indoor facility. In developing the itinerary for this event, it's always done with what the majority of the attendees would enjoy in mind.
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  6. Faulting the park for people not being able to control themselves is incredibly unfair. There was a garage sale in my neighborhood this past Saturday. It's a nice subdivision with home values $200,000 to $350,000 Cars lined on both sides of the street. Moving cars could not pass by. Garage sale cars illegally parked in many driveways. Police had to block off both entrances to my subdivision from letting more cars enter. Then the fights started. And a stabbing....no joke. PGA Championship took place in South Carolina this past weekend. Crowd rushed Brooks Koepka and knocked him around causing more pain & injury to an already injured knee. Crowd was way out of control. We have all seen fights over stupid crap like facemasks, or those butthurt because their entitlement is not acknowledged by someone else. Road rage videos everywhere. There is one similarity of the above examples- no teenagers were involved. They are all adults committing these horrific acts. Covid has mentally affected many people negatively where social interaction was lost. Combine that with everyone's head in their phone for the past decade plus and it's not a massive surprise people have zero clue how to act socially. We all need to just be nice to each other. Not everything is meant or intended to be malicious. Agreeing to disagree and move on is SO MUCH easier than fighting like wild animals. There is no magic wand to solve all these issues and more rules and restrictions will only create more animosity. We all need to take a step back, breathe, and really ask ourselves- is getting mad over the little things really worth it and what is the endgame you are looking for by getting so uncontrollably mad?
    16 points
  7. We all, in some form or another, take ownership in the park. Every single one of us should be outraged that this happened at a place as beloved as Kings Island. The mere fact that this has occurred makes me sick on my stomach. For the love of God there were families and little, little children there. Its simply disgusting. I trust in the park's leadership enough to know this sort of thing will not be tolerated. If that means hard rules must be instituted, fine by me. I support any measure the park takes to ensure the safety of ALL guests, and ALL employees.
    16 points
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  9. Check this out. The original concept model for Phantom Theater. A true piece of history. Owner (who is not me) is entertaining offers. Seeking $300. PM me if interested and I will put you in contact with them. First come first serve unless someone is willing to pitch a higher offer.
    16 points
  10. People tend to lose their heads over these types of rumors
    14 points
  11. The view of the Royal Fountain from the band stand on July 4th 2020
    14 points
  12. For the majority of the attendees, Coasterstock is not about ERT. It's a weekend celebration, a big "Family Reunion" for many. A chance to unite or reunite with other like-minded people. Oh, sure, there's ERT. But it's far from the most important part of the event for many of those who return to participate in the event year after year. And the event was created to be that way. You keep going on and on about Adventure Express not being part of the ERT lineup. As noted earlier in this thread, it is not located within the footprint of where other rides are located during the ERT sessions. However, you will be able to get in several rides on Adventure Express immediately following each of the morning ERT sessions during the first hour is open and you can get in a couple of night rides before the park closes as well.
    13 points
  13. Don't count on that. As I understand, Hart is taking a back seat and will be a financial partner only. I have heard he will no longer be involved in daily operations or management of the park. Well... you asked... ;-) Let me qualify... what follows is my general perception. I don't have any formal insight or first-hand knowledge of the inner workings of the park. That being said... Kentucky Kingdom continues to be viewed by locals in much the same way it was under the Six Flags leadership. There still exists a negative connotation among many in Louisville. Some perceive it as a troublesome park where unruly teens, and lower-class individuals go to hang out and cause trouble. (Not my opinion necessarily - just look at all the comments on the WHAS11 news announcement of the sale.) Louisville has always had an established culture clash - East end vs West end. Families and persons that live and work on the Eastern side of the city are - generally speaking - of a higher economic scale and prosperity. KK is widely considered to attract many lower economic class individuals from the West end of town - mostly because it has traditionally served as a draw for teens and those of a lower working class. This is due, because of its low admission and season pass rates coupled with the fact that it is on a convenient, direct, bus line from the West end. Add-in the fact that historically, there have been some really serious, and seriously public, issues at KK. Under SF, the park had crime - including incidents of rape, drug use, theft, gangs and fights. The "accident" that occurred so many years ago was the straw that broke the back for many. Obviously those things are well within the past, but they dealt a devastating blow to the reputation of the park. It was during this time that Holiday World seized the opportunity to build its reputation as the safe, family friendly option for the Louisville market. The Kochs family oriented commercials, ads and billboards were a declaration of being the "good-clean" option. Among locals, Kings Island has always been, and will always be perceived as a destination, top tier park. Its considered a "BIG" park with the "BIG" rides and attractions. It also is perceived as an expensive park. A lot of locals consider it to be the park at which you take a vacation - multiple days - with your family or a group of friends. Its an excursion, whereas KK is seen as a much smaller "half-day" park. (Side note - Both Kings Island and Holiday World strongly advertise in the Louisville Metro area. Commercials, and billboards, as well as discounts through fast-food and grocery stores.) I believe Hart entered into the most recent "new" Management agreement with the state for two reasons: (1.) He again saw the investment potential and (2.) He cared about the park itself. However, I also believe his intention was ALWAYS to re-sell the park... again. He is a businessman first and foremost. Its no secret that when he sold the park originally to Premier Parks (later Six Flags) he had leveraged the installation of major rides and costly infrastructure to the tune of a great deal of outstanding debt. Premier was gobbling up parks left and right, and seeing the skyrocketing attendance rates at KK (AFAIK, KK's highest attendance was the year they installed Chang) they jumped at the chance to buy - assuming a lot of that debt. When Premier became Six Flags, the company initially invested heavily in branding KK and spent years paying off debt. But then, little by little, any revenue the park began making was thrown into the big Six Flags bucket... and the overall quality suffered and re-investment was virtually non existent. By its final years, SFKK was making a profit - but never got to keep it - and had no real way of "growing" its bottom line. As mentioned before, there was no need for SF to heavily re-invest in SFKK when it was pulling the vast amount of business from local, regular attendees with season passes. When Six Flags pulled out of KK, they took the high-ticket rides with them infuriating the state that was left with basically a junkyard of rides and run-down buildings. In the new agreement with Hart, the state became the "owner" of the rides, land and structures. They required Hart to re-invest at least $4 Million in the park each season. This was done, as a reaction to lessons learned with the Six Flags pullout. Couple all these challenges together - and the result was that the current Kentucky Kingdom was operating season-to-season. Hart did re-invest heavily and breathed a new life in the park over the past several years, however never to the tune of success he originally had pre-Premier. With the onset of Covid - that obviously crippled the parks ability to further operate. As I understand, he furloughed all full-time staff (with the exception of essential people) back in the fall. Herschend became interested in the property (it remains to be seen who approached whom.) Further staff was permanently reduced in January - likely in preparation for the deal. However, it appears there was a great deal of back-and forth before the deal was finalized... even as recent as last week. I personally believe that had the deal not gone through, KK likely would not have had the ability to reopen this season. It will be interesting to see what Herschend has in store for the park. As you said - the landscape of the parks in this region has changed. Even Holiday World's grasp on the Louisville market is not what it once was (it is my opinion, the park completely lost their footing and direction with the passing of Will and then the family ouster that followed.) They still pull heavily from Louisville, however the "word on the street" about HW is not nearly as glowing as it once was. I think HW could be in a venerable place should KK be converted to a much more well-received, and perceived park. My hope for KK is that Herschend builds it into a "niche" park. Its never going to be a park on the scale of Kings Island, it simply doesn't have the logistical ability to. However, they can easily fill a gap - the need for a safe, fun and entertaining place for locals or those traveling up from Nashville, Down from Indy or Cincy or west from Lexington. I perceive it more on the lines of a modern-day Opryland (minus the Opry.) I expect the re-investment stipulation by the state still exists - so they will definitely sink money into the park (but not necessarily in the form of large rides.) I suspect (hope) that they were smart enough to not incur any outstanding debt in the way Premier did, that way they can begin operations with a nice clean slate. As far as the extended seasons and the potential for Holiday themed events - that is likely key. Louisville has nothing of the sort - with the exception of a Christmas Mega-Cavern drive through event (which is so popular it causes major traffic back-ups on the Watterson Expressway) and the Halloween event at the Zoo (which ALSO causes major traffic back-ups on the Watterson.) Remember, this is being spearheaded by Craig Ross, a VERY smart man with a great deal of experience. When he was GM of Kings Island - he led the park into the expansion/addition of Nick Central and the achievement of the first "Best Kids Area" Golden Ticket Award for the park. That, in itself, tells me his focus will be on changing the reputation, and the focus. It could get very interesting, but boy o boy a big challenge lies ahead. I personally feel this is very good, exciting news for the park.
    13 points
  14. Views of the growth on the tunnel from the train!
    12 points
  15. When I was a Park Police Officer, it was nice having a few less crowded weekends in April to help the young security officers learn how to handle situations that could escalate quickly. For some, this is their first security job. Some are 18 and having to deal with their peers and people who are much older than them, which can be daunting. Some think they can handle situations like that, until it actually happens. I will not be commenting on how the situation was handled, but I give a ton of credit to those who put themselves in the middle of that mess and tried to take care of the situation and I hope the park recognizes that as well. I fully believe the park will make adjustments to ensure guests have a feeling of safety. Things will get better.
    12 points
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  17. I have so many good photos of the Tower. This is one of my favorites.
    12 points
  18. Morning everyone! Orion is looking great this morning From: Kings Island livestream video.
    12 points
  19. Due to members requests, you may have noticed by now that we have added a new Kings Island History forum. I have went back through the Kings Island Forum to the start of 2014 and moved any thread that was about KI history. I hope this helps keep all of the awesome history of our favorite park a little more organized.
    12 points
  20. As much as I enjoy and appreciate Orion, Diamondback, and Banshee, I do not want a B&M in Vortex's space. I personally hope for Vortex's successor to feature a handful of inversions with a lower height requirement (48") as I know from my experience working at Vortex that a lot of young thrill-seekers set foot inside Kings Island. Dare I say that it MUST be as photogenic as Vortex was, in its own way. Bonus points if it breaks a record! Right now, a Mack multi-launch has my vote. Granted, I have not yet ridden one, but Copperhead Strike looks fun (and photogenic) and I hope to visit Carowinds this year to find that out for myself!
    12 points
  21. You are right. They see a new coaster and say, "Hey Kings Island (or any park) has a new coaster, lets go try it out." They don't care what type it is or which manufacturer it came from. They get off of the Coaster and say, "I loved that my feet dangle there, it was so scary." They got the adrenaline rush the coaster provided and they want to ride another. All the little details are really not on the GP's mind, nor do they care.
    12 points
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  23. Thank you so much! It is going well! She actually felt well enough, that she left the wheelchair and is walking. Getting our Orion ride soon!
    12 points
  24. Haunt is back for 2021, at least according to their website as of today. We can start Haunt 2021 discussions in this thread. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/events/haunt
    11 points
  25. So I hate to hit you guys with a serious comment but I feel like I have to post this. I have already said that I had covid and that it was pretty miserable, but that was the beginning of the sickness and it’s already gone through my whole family, so here goes. I got it first, I immediately started with a 104 degree fever. Highest fever I’ve had in my life, followed by a sore throat that even made it hard to swallow water. Because of this I didn’t eat much and lost a lot of weight. After I was done with the virus, I stayed home for another week not only because my family still had it, but because the virus basically drained me and I was exhausted. My sisters all got it and they had moderate symptoms and did pretty well. My parents however had the same symptoms as me and are still currently dealing with covid pneumonia. This story leads me to say that if you haven’t had covid yet, I would wear a mask for the sake of the unknown. Me and my parents happened to get severe cases and it still kind of affects us to this day, almost a month through it. If you know of anyone with the sickness, try and help them out as much as possible, just like my family and friends did who I am beyond thankful for. So again, if you haven’t had covid yet, I would advise wear the mask, and if anyone you know has it help them out as much as you can. I know I was very ignorant with it at first and after actually getting covid, I am pleading that you take this advice because it might end up severe like what my family had to deal with. Whew, all done. Thanks for reading this!
    11 points
  26. Found something cool while packing to move. Flight of Fear's announcement article in the Cincinnati Enquirer, January 13, 1996. I'll post the article in there at some.
    11 points
  27. It was a $31 million budget. You should really read Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. I think you would find it enlightening!
    11 points
  28. Winterfest is back for 2021 according to the Kings Island website as of today. I can taste the buffet and hot chocolate already! https://www.visitkingsisland.com/events/winterfest
    11 points
  29. The show quality on Mystic Timbers and Orion is embarrassing. The broken Shed music is just one aspect. The plaza music for Mystic Timbers also isn’t playing, and the last TV before going up the stairs has half of its screen burnt out. Over at Orion, the music doesn’t play in the station or above the lockers any more (although the speakers above the lockers DO still play the Kings Island Live app announcement). The light in the meteor doesn’t work anymore either. I understand if things like these have problems for a day or two, but there’s no excuse for these things having been down/broken for a month at this point—especially on two showpiece rides for the park.
    11 points
  30. Let’s not just assume that Halloween Haunt is already cancelled and get mad at Cedar Fair. We don’t know that yet. Even if Kings Island runs a more family oriented event instead of their typical event, I could see them trying to open a few scare mazes if they have the staffing to do so. Also, people have to realize that it is impossible for Cedar Fair to please everyone. Kings Island is obviously trying to please their customers, and they for sure wish they didn’t have staffing issues and limited park hours. If Kings Island could control everything, we would have a season like 2019. Kings Island literally cannot do anything more than raise their wages to attract new workers to bring back normal park hours. And, since Halloween Haunt is apparently a big money maker for Cedar Fair, they for sure wish they could just have it like any other year. The problem is, this year is not normal, so they may not be able to have Halloween Haunt like they usually would. They for sure will try their best to host the event or something similar, but they don’t necessarily have complete control over that. Kings Island is stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one side, they have passholders who claim they don’t get enough value with their season passes while others think the season passes are too cheap. Is Kings Island screwing over customers by not giving them good value for their season pass or are they giving away the gate? No matter what Kings Island does, there will always be people who are unhappy. This is true for any business. Let’s also look at the good on things and not always the negative. Too often, I feel like people only come on this site to bash things or complain. If you look at Kings Island for what it is, it is a well-kept, well-landscaped amusement park that is home to a world-class ride collection. In terms of operations, Kings Island is operating seven days a week, Kings Island is not closing lines early, and Kings Island is running live entertainment. A lot of regional amusement parks cannot say the same.
    11 points
  31. So I've been pretty silent on the subject but I decided after seeing what KI has posted it's time to unload some thoughts. The whole country is hurting for people to work. Kings Island, and Cedar Fair mind you, has implemented a lot of policies and plans to accommodate their staffing issues and they are still hurting. Just based on the video, the subsequent day, and just the environment in general, I believe in the "punish the criminal, not the good intentioned populous". I myself have been to the park solo when I was a minor for years and never did I get in trouble with the park. I always followed the rules, made sure to be polite, and generally be a good patron to the park. I never thought of being a "gang" and picking a fight with another group, and never will. The individuals who acted, started, and harassed other patrons should be barred for an extremely long time and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Make the policies clear, make them open, make them available, make an example of whoever causes a brawl like this. I do not believe we should punish good minded youths due to the acts of a group of individuals who probably need some help. I have seen people get escorted out of the park, it does happen and should happen. I have nothing but extreme respect for security, and to a grander degree our first responders like Lifeguards and EMTS. They put up with some of the worst from people, and I can speak from first hand experience. They care about safety, they work late shifts even to ensure guest safety. I believe that KI should try to employ more security, enforce their policies, and really make statements that even if you are a minor, there are extreme consequences for unruly behavior.
    11 points
  32. What do people hate about the restraints? I find the Banshee ones so much better than head banging OTSR! I'll take a little tight on the chest and walking off without a headache than freedom in the chest and head banging LOL.
    11 points
  33. For posterity, I was a Beast Crew member (many, many moons ago) and can tell you we were all made aware of the potential hazards with the ride when in driver training. We were given examples of accidents that HAVE occurred in its history, so we knew what to look for and how to handle. Not once, in my time working there - or in training - was there ever any mention of someone being mortally injured by The Beast. However we were warned that people HAVE hit their heads on the trains, broken fingers and hands in the helix, busted lips, had heart attacks etc. Unfortunately, those types of things DID happen (rarely) while I was on crew. I saw and handled a couple of those types of instances personally. However, with the exception of one case, the injuries occurred to people that ignored and challenged the safety warnings. They were all treatable and relatively minor injuries. Perhaps the story is confused with another? In the 1980s a young teenager did get partially decapitated on a coaster at Kings Dominion when they stood up on the Galaxi. It made national news. (Side note: the growing issues and concerns with persons standing on the coasters (not just The Beast) is why the individual orange lap bars took the place of the buzz bars on PTC trains at many parks. But this was after many, many years of operating without them. The more recent addition of seat belts also was a result of concerns about guests breaking rules while riding.) FYI - I've never personally understood the fascination with these types of hearsay "stories." I once had a barber SWEAR he was at KI in the late 1980s on the day The Bat crashed into a concrete pillar, fell off the track, and killed people. He was adamant that it happened. There was so much wrong with his story, but when I tried to correct him - he got very defensive. You would have thought I had killed his first-born. After that, I learned to just roll my eyes and not engage with such stories when they are told directly to me. There's no use arguing.
    11 points
  34. Now available for pre-order! https://www.rivershorecreative.com/kingsisland And check out the official press release, too. https://www.rivershorecreative.com/blog/2021/3/5/new-book-chronicles-the-history-of-kings-island
    11 points
  35. I rode Vortex all 33 seasons it operated. I'm sure I took thousands of rides. I even had the pleasure of operating the ride back in 2001. So many memories. Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk
    11 points
  36. I just wish they would plant trees to replace ones they remove for construction though in areas they can go back into. Think they did a good job with removal for Mystic Timbers, but look at Diamondback. It was completely cleared and it has been left flat and empty since. It opened 12 years ago now. That area could have been pretty well reforested by now aside for space for tracks and and necessary roads for it. Think it would look a lot nicer and be more fun to dip in and out of the trees, plus make it feel faster with you zipping past trees closer by.
    10 points
  37. Had a fun walk down memory lane for this. #1
    10 points
  38. Well I found the original post on twitter about this since it was not included in your thread. I have no idea how you are saying the lift hill is tilting. It looks like the stairs are bent and the track piece where it stopped was damaged. The total exaggeration and over dramatization is totally not needed.
    10 points
  39. Hey all, I thought this would be a great place to drop recent links and discuss the recent blog posts from the Kings Island Blog. That way every time a new blog is posted a separate thread need not be created, unless the conversation can be expanded upon and talked more about. After all, there are some pretty cool and intriguing stories as we get closer to the park's 50th Anniversary in 2022. Plus, why not share some of your favorites? I believe they go back as early as 2017, and there have been many hidden gems. Speaking of new posts, yesterday Chad Showalter dropped a new story regarding the Simon Kenton Locomotive's first test run in 1971. BLOG: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2020/november/november-10-1971-the-simon-kenton-locomotive-makes-its-historic-first-trip
    10 points
  40. Here is a surprisingly smooth and clear point-of-view video of Son of Beast in its original form that was just posted to YouTube within the last 24 hours. I have never seen such a good POV of this ride on the internet until now. Enjoy!
    10 points
  41. I like to say that this is WindSeeker's taking its first fall without Vortex extra hard. After all, WindSeeker was paired with Vortex from its debut all the way through last year. Also, I was one of the lucky ones. It was cold, but the view was excellent.
    10 points
  42. Past ride signs I go with this.
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  43. Vortex's final Haunt is underway on October 26, 2019. Also peep Orion behind 3-Point Challenge's New Era Hats sign.
    10 points
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