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  1. I for one would not be excited for this. We already have a Festhaus, which isn't being used to it's full potential. I would much rather see the sky ride return or something akin to Der Spinning Keggers, or some form of flat ride for that part of the park. Currently, it is the ride desert of the park. Only boasting Adventure Express, the park really doesn't have anything to write home about. I for one would be very excited if we saw something like a "reimagined Oktoberfest" renovation like we did with Action Zone a few years ago. German flair in all of the restaurants, an actual biergarten that isn't choked by beer sales inside of the Festhaus, the sky ride, der spinning keggers in the plot behind the Coke Marketplace. We have so much potential under the new management with both CF and KI, who wants to flesh out their areas; so I'm not saying it's too far fetched.
    13 points
  2. As much as I enjoy park improvements like ride repaints, those are part of basic infrastructure upkeep. Park improvements are great, but they cannot replace a new attraction. Park improvements should be ongoing regardless of a new attraction opening. Also, I love that Kings Island introduced many great entertainment offerings for this year. This may be controversial, but in my opinion, new shows cannot replace new attractions. A new show just does not attract people like a new ride. Think about Kings Mills Antique Autos. The media ran multiple stories when Kings Island announced the new ride in 2019. I haven’t seen many new news stories about Phantom Theatre Encore, though. A new show simply cannot be marketed like a a new attraction.
    11 points
  3. Marketing will always pitch something new, after all that is a large part of their job. I think only a diehard/blindly loyal (depending on your view ), fan would call maintenance/general improvements an addition, and I doubt most would specifically notice such things at all. A new food item is just a new product for sale. A new show is nice, but shows are everchanging and new shows are expected on a regular basis. @BrowntggrrRegarding cost of the expenditures, I understand that in part. However, it doesn't hold up particularly well after a closer look. The closest parallel is probably after Diamondback in 2009 (most expensive investment in park history at time). Even in a terrible recession, Cedar Fair still invested in the park in two out of four years (2011 and 2012). After Banshee in 2014, (more expensive than Diamondback), there were additions in 2015, 2016, and a new coaster in Mystic Timbers in 2017. Only then was there a year off in 2018. Starting with 2018 there have been additions in 2 out of 6 years. Over park history this was not done either. Paramount built 4 adult coasters and a family coaster and never took a year off. Never before through any ownership were there consecutive years without additions and it appears we are about to hit three straight years. I know Kings Island gets more investment than most Cedar Fair parks, but there has been a good reason for that. This very well may be a one-off strictly because of financial factors from the pandemic. I'd think though that the park would grow stale to more casual park-goers after consecutive years without additions. I hope this is just a deviation and not the new norm.
    10 points
  4. Imagine something like this: Now just choose what dishes to serve lol Source for pic: https://www.frankenmuth.org/directory/bavarian-inn-restaurant/
    10 points
  5. Beautiful night at the park! Walked on everything.
    10 points
  6. I rode The Bat tonight. Crowds were light because of the rain earlier in the day. It was running both trains and operations seem standard/normal to me. At this point it is like the wheel incident never even happened. Another great job completed by the KI maintenance team.
    10 points
  7. We were talking about this on the Cedar Fair 2023 Additions topic on the Other Amusement Parks and Industry News forum but I feel like we need to talk about this here since I actually have a photo now.
    9 points
  8. Three years between rides is far too long. There’s no reason as to why basic maintenance and new attractions have to be mutually exclusive. I’m not expecting a major new ride but new flats would be enough to keep guest interested in the park. If they don’t add a new ride then to be honest I don’t see any reason to renew my pass especially with the price increase that’s certainly coming.
    9 points
  9. Since you admit you have never been to Dollywood, I encourage you give it a try before discounting it as simply a Tennesse themed park with ties to Dolly. There is a lot of variety there and I think you will walk away with a much different opinion of that park. Many people go in expecting to be flooded with Dolly stuff and walk away quite impressed with the park. I wasn't overly excited on my first trip to Dollywood as a youngster and I was expecting to be flooded with country music and Dolly songs and sucky rides and walked away a fan of the park. I make several visits every year. Also remember that it was previously Silver Dollar City and Dollywood is mostly owned by Herschend. Dolly has an ownership stake and is the face of the place, but it was more a rebranding than a park dedicated to Dolly. They don't just play Dolly songs LOL. Heck with 9 to 5 playing at KI now, we hear more Dolly at KI than you do at Dollywood LOL According to their website, Dollywood averages 2 Dolly songs per hour. Outside of the Dolly Parton themed area Adventures in Imagination you really do not hear or see much Dolly related stuff. They have great themed areas with appropriate songs for the themed area. KI is getting better at that - who remembers pop music on I street LOL.... Most will say their theming is better and more consistent throughout the park than at KI. They do a lot of things right. The coaster theming for example is better than anything CF does and they actually maintain it. From the food (all original except for Dippin Dots LOL), to the theming, to the shows, to the atmosphere, they have a lot of things going right for them. Sure they don't have a space theme, but they don't need it either. My neighbors just returned from a trip there and was the first time their teenage boys that are totally not country music fans went there. They went in expecting the coasters to suck and to hear country music all day and not be as fun as KI and walked away saying that is their favorite overall park and plan to go again before school starts. They do a lot of little things right that go a long way. In the JukeBox Junction themed area, one would expect a 50s/60s diner and sure enough they do, unlike our Panda Express in FestHaus LOL. And their rides and names are appropriate for the area as well. Now KI has certainly been moving more towards that and fixing some of the wrongs of Paramount, so there is hope at some point for something like a FestHaus to either be rebranded or the food offerings change. Personally, I was expecting more from this announcement than what was announced, but they have a target audience they are marketing to and feel this ride fits that market. I was hoping for a hyper or giga, but even so they do have an underestimated/underappreciated coaster lineup. They are a lot of fun.
    9 points
  10. It was vague for a reason LOL....someone posted "while there have been no markers anywhere to my knowledge", so I was just letting them know that their post is inaccurate as that does help the conversation as they put out inaccurate information. I thought this was also a speculation thread and I guess nobody likes a good scavenger hunt anymore LOL? Should we just cut right to the chase and say the next improvement is XXXXX lol. I wanted to see if anyone else had seen them and simply didn't post about it yet, but I guess not LOL. Maybe someone can sling a shot in the air guess as to where the markers may be hiding...
    9 points
  11. You'll be happy to know the person who made the layout of this coaster is also a member of this site!
    8 points
  12. I remember a time when CF first took over & many here were concerned that with the flagship park being so close, KI was not going to get big rides. 16 years later, 5 coaster additions and over $91 million spent on them has pretty much squashed that concern. And major upgrades to the park's most epic coasters including a paint job that just makes older KI enthusiasts just stop & grin. Not many parks have the same experience. I for one can live for 3 years with the absence of a new attraction- especially knowing the recent history. There is still that large plot of land available where Vortex was at. With today's announcements it appears CF is adding attractions that are nostalgic to some of the parks. Could a version of Vortex return??
    8 points
  13. I agree with @FUN&ONLY!, so this may be somewhat redundant... I get this is a fan site, which means people are going to nit-pick every expense the park has done justifying various improvements and additions. But Kings Island is a amusement park, with rides being a main attraction for their audience. Stage shows, parades, anniversary celebrations, chef specials, they are all timed events that can come and go. Investment in this type of entertainment is important, but it pales in comparison to fixed rides. Rides you can (mostly) rely on being around for years and operational all hours the park is open. Ongoing maintenance to keep the park in shape (painting, parking log, infrastructure, ride repairs) should just be expected. I very much appreciate The Beast project work, but this we needed to keep the ride for continued long-term use. Maintenance is a significant expense, but should be built into the cost of operating the park. Deferred maintenance is just the parent company taking profits at our expense. I'm looking for some additional ride options. Something... doesn't have to be expensive, or flashy, but additions are needed. As rides age, removals are always on the horizon, additions need to be as well. Someone else mentioned above if a season pass was on the line based upon ride additions. Personally for myself and a number of friends--yes. We can take a year off and do other adventures, we've done it before and may do it again for 2023. Kings Island isn't the only option around. I like the shows and events, and use them to rest and recharge, but they alone don't justify my drive to the park. Bottom line, it is all about money, and how to get the most out of it. Cedar Fair looks at their budget and determines how they allocate it based on ROI, everyone here should do the same with their amusement/entertainment budget to get the best bang for your buck (which is all personal preference)
    8 points
  14. Gonna be real tired on mondays.
    8 points
  15. Saw the 4:00 and the 5:00 show on the last day of the show. The public's reaction to this show is simply the biggest show of support and love I have ever seen for a show at KI and I have been to several last performances. The 4 o'clock show went into the overflow and every seat except the last 2 center rows were filled. The 5 o'clock show had about 30 less people than the 4 o'clock. The line for the 4 o'clock show stretched down to Delerium 25 minutes before the show and (because the went the other way) down to the women's restroom for the 5 o'clock show 25 minutes before the start of the show. Both crowds were definitely into the performances but the 5 crowd was definitely the most enthused. My hands actually were sore from clapping so much. Clapping along to Welcome to the Theatre, Happy Feet and the entire finale & curtain call. The cast was definitely on point and had so many special moments in both shows. For example Boris hugging instead of threatening Houdilini before Caught in the Ropes, Maestro hitting the high note along with Hilda when she breaks his 2nd glass of wine. For both shows the cast definitely fed off of the audience and vice-versa. Again, it was simply a one of a kind show and outpouring of love to the cast and from the cast back to the fans. The adlibs didn't detract from the show but were a nice nod the the regulars who watch the show. Maestro said, and I'm paraphrasing, "We won't be back until at least next Summer". I was clapping and didn't catch Larry's line but I believe he did confirm the return next season of the show! Can anyone else confirm what Larry said? I also overheard that they have a 3 year contract. Seems to me the would do the same show next year and then change it for the 24 season to fall in line with the return of the Phantom Theatre ride! Just speculation but that would make alot of sense and keep the interest and excitement up for the rides return. Once again to the cast and everyone involved with the show you have simply created, in my opinion and the opinion of many others, the best show ever to be at Kings Island. From the conception, to the writing, choreography, direction and the execution the show is simply perfection. Thanks for giving us a memorable experience many of us, along with all of you, will never forget. Here's to your hopeful return next year. But even you it doesn't come back, know that you have cemented yourselfs in the lore of Kings Island Live Entertainment group. Well done and Bravo!!!!!!!!!!
    7 points
  16. Made an Area 72 expansion idea. It involves demolishing the current maintenance buildings and building new ones on the other side of Orion (red rectangles). It is based on Carowinds Aeronautica Landing and would feature 3 new flats: A Zamperla Air Race and Nebulaz, a gravitron ride, and a trabant. It would also feature a new restaurant with a patio and bar overlooking Orion.
    7 points
  17. No but food and entertainment is not significant either. Ride maintenance should be expected not praised. Even with the retracking The Beast still needs a lot of work. This is after they put aside general maintenance and let it get to the point where it was so rough. Did it cost a lot of money? Definitely. Was that also partially their fault? Very much so.
    7 points
  18. i did puchase my gold pass today. So basically a no to pestige and down grade platinum as I went to CP once this year. However to the point of the thread I feel CF is pushing KI as the family park in Ohio and most amusement park publications are indicating a push that way as families spend more $$$ than young people looking for the next 300 foot coasters. So yes the next improvements are probably Planet Snoopy and Soak City and another dining establishment with indoor seating. Would love a water coaster in oak city. Not really surprised with the lack of anything new next season. I know every one on this site is in the big coaster thrill group. just trying to be real about it.
    7 points
  19. Diamondback and Banshee both need a repaint if we are being honest. If we are getting no new additions they better continue to retrack The Racer and The Beast. Bring back missing/ broken theming all across the park. Fix/ remove the funTVs cause right now they are mostly all broken. And actually fix boo blasters. The guns don’t work properly literally any time I go on it. I would also like to see them use queues more efficiently. The one that gets on my nerves is FOF. Put the people inside the AC instead of making them wait outside in the heat.
    7 points
  20. Still scratching my head on why they would invest more money into CGA yet not add any flats to Kings Island which really needs them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    7 points
  21. Getting no new attractions for a few seasons is the reason why I don't understand in other posts people say "It's time to get rid of Congo Falls, Invertigo, The Bat, AE, etc.". We would just likely look at an empty spot for a few years like The Vortex area. I know The Vortex was removed for some unexpected EOL reasons. Since we are not getting new KI attractions, what are the 'improvements' you would like to see next season? Diamondback repaint would be my #1.
    7 points
  22. I don't think it would go over well in that location. It's hidden, no one would see it or smell the food cooking. The most logical location, in my opinion, is the current location of KillMart. Visible. Smellable. And the backstage area needs to be cleaned up, so this would be a great reason to do so. Outside dining with a view of Orion, The Racer and the KMAA? Inside dining for hot days and cold WinterFest days? Of course, my idea has been put forth multiple times here and poo-pooed. But I'm seeing several in agreement now. @brenthodge, from an artistic standpoint, your idea is wonderful. But I just don't see it being visible enough to be successful.
    7 points
  23. According to today's earnings call, all Cedar Fair announcements will be next week.
    7 points
  24. I would also like to see our Planet Snoopy be converted into a Camp Snoopy. I think the Camp Snoopy aspect would fit in with the park better, plus it’s right next door to Rivertown. I think it would help blend those areas into a more natural and organic experience.
    7 points
  25. For me, September weekends at KI are magical. The days are warm and the evenings tepid. The cool air in your face makes a night ride on The Beast just that more exhilarating. At closing time, your walk home in the dusk along the little Europe of International Street and past the synchronized displays of the Royal Fountains reminds you that KI is not just a destination for thill seekers, but more about the cumulation of individual experiences you enjoy during your day at the park.
    7 points
  26. @Shaggy I didn’t even think of the eagles! Here are some of mine: 1. All other sections of the park (I assume that’s coming) 2. Timberwolf (make it look like a concert poster) 3. KI Theater 4. Fun, Fireworks & Fifty / 50th celebration 5. Haunt / WF Another direction I feel like they could go is to make faux-advertisement posters. Like: 1. Come see the Flying Wallendas 2. Kings Island opening Spring 1972 3. Plan your vacation to Rivertown etc
    7 points
  27. Check out the new coasters at Worlds of fun! Heres the POV
    6 points
  28. bUt rAiSiNG pRIces 2 aTtraCt diFFerENt cLIEnteL is rAYcist
    6 points
  29. Never thought I’d see the day! $13 at the shop near Banshee.
    6 points
  30. Agree on the AdLibbing. You could tell the cast was in thew home stretch at yesterdays 5pm. Lots of mugging, ad-libbing and ribbing back and forth with the audience AND each other. Having seem the show quite a bit this season it was so cool to see the "real human" aspect of the cast.
    6 points
  31. Just because it’s a new addition does not mean it’s an important one. Personally, I don’t watch the shows so no I didn’t enjoy it. Also, that show is replacing a show that already ran. So at best, it’s a small net positive if the show is better. As other posters have mentioned, most people go for the rides. For the things they cannot do anywhere else. I can go to plays in any town. I cannot ride rollercoasters or large flats in any town. Only 2 out of the last 6 years having additions is concerning any way you paint it. And with nothing being announced today my season pass is seriously up for question. That’s 2 platinum season passes might I add. They had a chance to win my $600+ on passes alone and they are losing that chance. There is definitely other things I can do with that money.
    6 points
  32. Would really love it if KI announced a Planet Snoopy makeover and did something with BB (I like the idea of retheming it to Phantom Theater). My kids have a few years left where they'll still able to have fun in PS, and it would be great to have something for them to be excited about next year. Also, my continued plea to change Woodstock Express back to The Beastie.
    6 points
  33. Here is a direct link to the Zambezi Zinger page on the Worlds of Fun website: https://www.worldsoffun.com/new-in-2023/zambezi-zinger
    6 points
  34. Put it back to how it was before SlingShot, a landscaped green area (back then, King Cobra vantage, now Banshee). Put some pine trees or something in to spruce it up.
    6 points
  35. Dollywood is essentially a well themed European park that's in the US. There are bits of theming between the individual rides that make it all blend together. They also do well in making it all look good in the sense that its not easy seeing behind the scenes areas. The park also has tons of trees mostly everywhere which helps with the setting. This is part of a laundry list of reasons why Dollywood is my favorite park (even over the likes of the Disney parks I've been to, CP, HW, HP, KI, and Carowinds). Also, I don't get the argument with the new coaster that it doesn't have much else to look at. How many other Dollywood coasters do? Thunderhead, Eagle, Tennessee Tornado, Lightning Rod- outside the queue and stations on those are all just tree clearings that happen to be on hills. I'm sure the entry plaze, the queue and station on the new ride will be at Dollywood's standards. I also think with the way Dollywood has expanded, if you look at the train route, I believe the goal is to expand the park to the other loop and create a second station, so stuff around the new coaster may be filled in for the future. Mystery Mine used to literally sit all by itself before other things got added. Dollywood plans ahead very well, as evidenced IMO by the way they made the park a full loop in the first place (Thunderhead Gap and Tennessee Tornado used to be dead ends). I trust in whatever avenue they go with. EDIT: I also want to add this since people often midjudge what the park is because its named after Dolly Parton. Speaking as a music history buff, she has one of the greatest stories among any musician ever and she's one of the few country music artists I'll gladly listen to (and she has some serious music award hardware to boot, heck she's the type of person to initially decline a R&RHOF nomination). Her story is very well woven into the park. She's also done a ton for the surrounding area including helping out financially with the fire damage.
    6 points
  36. Carowinds new area teaser.
    6 points
  37. Kind of proud of everyone with their reaction. Some have have bought it, some couldn’t justify it. No real “OMG ITS A RIPOFF” response. It’s for some people and not others. Nothing is being taken away from Gold or Platinum to make this happen, so it’s a good thing!
    6 points
  38. Mike Koontz said at Coasterstock this year is sort of a test to see how successful they are and they are learning about the concert business. He said he plans on doing them next year if they are successful. From what I saw both 3 Doors Down and Skillet brought in pretty good crowds not surprising as those 2 bands had the biggest following. Also, minus the hiccups of the first concert, all the concerts people enjoyed them. I honestly think Timberwolf is here to stay as long as KI is willing to continue putting money into it and use feedback from the bands and fans to see how they can improve Timberwolf. KI still has a lot of land to expand without removing Timberwolf.
    6 points
  39. While this is a beautiful building, it would be redundant as @BB1 said above (and now I'm being redundant). Plus, the sight line of Banshee from right there has so much potential. A new climate controlled eatery/entertainment destination is needed down the midway in the area formerly known as Coney Mall. Climate control is missing in this area of the park.
    6 points
  40. Please share where or any pics. Vague posts don't help the conversation.
    6 points
  41. If all we got was some shade in Planet Snoopy I would be happy.
    6 points
  42. And not just any burger, but the worlds best burger!
    6 points
  43. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2022/july/kings-island-blog-reaches-milestone-1000-blogs-published Congrats to Don and his team. He clearly oversees the finest blog in the industry!
    6 points
  44. I want KI to implement it. I witnessed a situation with a large group of “teens” when I was at KI on a Sat night about a month ago… let’s just say it was like watching a storm brew… then all heck broke loose. Thank God security and Mason police were quick to act - but it was literally terrifying to watch. I may be saying too much, but there’s something odd going on in general. Places like parks and malls etc are the new targets of trouble-makers of a certain dynamic. Until drastic measures are taken to ensure that they cannot attend in groups/congregate, they will keep trying to lay claim/ownership as part of their turf war.
    6 points
  45. I’m not surprised KI isn’t getting a major ride or attraction next year. I don’t think a lot of people realize how much time, effort, and money went into this 50th season. I, for one, would like to see KI spend the remainder of this season and next upgrading and enhancing both Halloween Haunt and Winterfest. Enhancing both these events would be a win in my book. Haunt has slowly, in my opinion, been dwindled down since CF ownership. I would like to see that grow in size and “production” quality. I miss the scare zones that were effectively themed. I miss the trail haunts and how the train was incorporated into haunt as well. I think there are many things the park can do to enhance every guests overall experience and in my mind it doesn’t require a huge $20 million dollar attraction. The park could easily use $2-5 million and really upgrade all their events. Just my thoughts….
    5 points
  46. Pease do not take that as being a Negative Nancy! I really, really, really, really want it to reopen. I think that ride is incredible!!!
    5 points
  47. Or re-read my statement for a hint....
    5 points
  48. Similar to past Cirque shows, KI will be having a few sensory-friendly performances of Phantom Theater Encore this week
    5 points
  49. The black seats hide all the human grease. On the orange seats, the human grease stood out.
    5 points
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