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  1. Found something cool while packing to move. Flight of Fear's announcement article in the Cincinnati Enquirer, January 13, 1996. I'll post the article in there at some.
    10 points
  2. It was a $31 million budget. You should really read Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. I think you would find it enlightening!
    10 points
  3. It was redesigned from scratch. The layout we have is 100% a Kings Island layout.
    7 points
  4. Snowball, seen you several times and never said hello, but wanted to thank you for what you do. In addition I'd like to thank everyone involved with Carnivale. It is an enormous success made mostly by the people (culinary team included) involved. From the Carnival King and Queen to the staff of the Crafts tent to the performers in the shows, to the sweeps who follow the parade to pick up the leftovers THANK YOU ALL for what you do. I've enjoyed the event 4 times this year and unfortunately won't be making it to your final night (I'll be at CP with the grandkids). I was hoping to be here for the final day and was planning on the kids makings signs saying "Thank You Grand Carnivale" I think it's a fitting gesture to such an awesome event. Maybe some others on here will take the cue to give a little gesture of gratitude to the staff of KI that works so hard to make 16 days of summer over and above entertaining. Again Snowball to you and your fellow cast/staff, please let them know that they are appreciated, loved, and we will miss the Carnivale until it (hopefully) makes it's magical return next year. Maybe I'll get a chance to say hello during haunt
    6 points
  5. I don’t really collect park stuff but this was something I wanted for a long time. It was an online exclusive until today. I’m really happy with it Here is the finished product.
    6 points
  6. The announcement event was super cool, too:
    6 points
  7. I think Kings Island has five standout coasters: Orion, Banshee, Diamondback, Mystic Timbers, and The Beast. If you were to put any one of these coasters at ValleyFair, Michigans’ Adventure or probably over 90% of the amusement parks on the planet, it would be their best coaster and would surely standout. Leviathan is a standout coaster for Canada’s Wonderland and most that feel Orion is slightly superior to Leviathan. But Orion doesn’t stand out at Kings Island the way Leviathan does at Canada’s Wonderland due to the fact that Canada’s Wonderland doesn’t have near the supporting cast that Kings Island does. In fact, Leviathan is the standout attraction in all of Canada and Orion is still a tad better. The fact that Kings Island has five coasters that are very close to each other in terms of quality doesn’t allow for any single coaster to standout on it own. I actually like that Orion doesn’t completely overshadow all other rides like some rides do at their respective parks. The other coasters get to keep their appeal. There’s now just more variety. Orion was a very good fit for the park I would even venture to say that the majority of park goers would rather have an Orion over a Veloicoaster, SteVe, Maverick, X2 or The Voyage. The size, the speed, the looks, the drop. It’s just more attractive to more people. Nothing you put at Kings Island is going to standout with the lineup they have anyway, not SteVe, not Veloicicoaster, not The Voyage. It’s just people’s preference for what they prefer. Not everyone prefers the most intense ride. Intensity does not maketh the most superior experience.
    6 points
  8. Please, no… just stop with the gate coaster. It’s not needed at KI.
    5 points
  9. I hope they never change the essence of the front entrance to the park. Updates, for sure, new restaurant/ticket counters/customer service/entry ques....absolutely. Essence - leave it like it is. What is this Essence that I'm talking about? Its about the slow gradual incline from the parking lot up to the front entry plaza. I could do w/o the security aspect cluttering things up, but its the reality we have to live with, and as such, I actually think they have placed the security clearances fairly well. Anhoo, back to the point.... the slow walk up the inclined entry, sure you see the tower, you see some rides, you hear some going, but you don't really get a feel for the park. You proceed to the ticket counter if needed, or straight for the pass/ticket scanners. Now the ground is relatively flat, its relatively quit and its absolutely shady. You can hear the excitement in the air, but if you've never been you don't get a sense for what is about to hit you. As you proceed into the park, you get the 180 flip from shaded cover to full sun. You get the full view of the tower, the sounds of the fountains, the smell of the baked goods, food and sweets. It all combines in a flash to hit you like a ton of bricks and lets you know that you've arrived somewhere special. Above all else, the essence of the front entry they nailed. I have never been to an amusement park that nails it quite like Kings Island has nailed their front entrance. Disneyworld is pretty solid with the castle in view, but you don't get the rush of fountains that makes KI's better. I haven't been to as many amusement parks as others, but in my mind, they couldn't have done it any better. Sure the building/restaurant could use a face lift/update as mentioned earlier, but the feel, the smells, the sounds as you step into the open area is as good a feeling as you can find.
    5 points
  10. The pool is wider than it appears from this angle Saturday they gave out Popsicles for the fireworks. Not a bad view if you want to get kids to bed afterwards. Funniest item for sale at the shop, only $119 lol I'll post pics about the sites around us later. Back to work boooo
    5 points
  11. 4th time. It’s BUSY, and I’m still walking around with a goofy grin thinking, “this is EXACTLY what this park should look like!” So much energy, so much “fun”. Seeing kids dancing in the street, drummers just randomly “parading” around, people chilling on sofas eating good food. It just feels “different” I’m alone tonight, and I’ve had great conversations with total strangers. Events like this seem to put people in a more “get along” mood.
    4 points
  12. Now I don't know about all of you but I am pretty dang content hearing Rush and The Eagles in Action Zone now lol. Also a strong supporter of I-Street's music too. Never thought I'd hear orchestral Muse, Green Day, David Bowie and some Meme songs all play on International street yet here we are and I'm all for it.
    4 points
  13. What a crazy year...even if this were a good deed it doesn't make it right. https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-climbs-six-flags-roller-170219955.html
    4 points
  14. "That look you make when they start playing country music"
    4 points
  15. Steel in 2014 (when Fury track would have been made) was around $650 per ton and was going for around $830 per ton when Orion track was being made in 2019...had Fury been announced for 2016 and thus track would have been built in 2015 it would have been $460/ton...just think it may have been Fury386 then! And right now steel is going for about $1,900 per ton. Moral of story - steel prices adjust substantially year to year based on supply/demand...
    4 points
  16. Here's the whole article. The article (Janurary 13, 1996), writer- Linda Fish-Oda- KINGS MILLS- Visitors to Paramount's Kings Island this year will get to test ride a new technology that someday may become standard on U.S. aircraft carriers. Outer Limits--Flight of Fear, the first hill-less coaster in the world, will be powered by a motor system that is turning heads at the Pentagon. The ride will propel visitors from 0 to 54 miles per hour in less than four seconds, said Jeff Gramke, manager of engineering and construction for Kings Island. Outer Limits is previewed today at the 160th annual Non Coaster-thon Coaster Con Conference in Chicago. The ride will open in late spring in the Warren County amusement park. Navy officials have previewed it and liked what they saw. The Navy wants to replace the steam catapult system used on aircraft carriers to launch planes with linear induction motors, similar to the ones used by the amusement ride. A linear motor system would reduce the weight of a carrier by more than 1,000 tons, said Paul Tolman, marketing manager of Kaman Electromagnetics Crop in Hudson, Mass. Kaman is the company working with the Navy on the new technology. "The Navy does have a need to reduce the weight of the ship" he said. The system would also increase the lifespan of an aircraft. The steam catapult system cannot be adjusted to match factors such as aircraft type, weapons payload, or wind conditions. As a result, all aircraft get the maximum thrust at all times. The linear motor system is controlled by computers and has the ability to adjust the power that launches an aircraft, Mr Tolman said. "That thrust puts stress on the frame of the aircraft. If you can vary the profile, you can extend the life of the aircraft, which would save big money for the Navy." At Kings Island, executives are simply looking for a "screaming meanie that will blast you out," said Ed Dangler, manager of rides, maintenance and technical service for the park. By that measure, Outer Limits has already won tow awards at the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions' annual industry trade show in November. Premier Rides, the roller coaster's manufacturer, won in the Major Theme/Amusement Park Ride/Attraction category, as well as the Technology Applied to Amusements award. For park visitors who have experienced their fastest speed in a car, Outer Limits will push their limits. There are only one or two automobiles in the world with acceleration like Outer Limits, said Jim Seay, executive vice-president of Premier Rides in Millersville, Md. "We're talking really exotic cars, like maybe the most expensive Ferrari," he said. Carolyn Boos, marketing director for Kings Island, said Outer Limits will look like a giant ball of yarn after a cat finishes with it. "Or a bowl of spaghetti." Taking up an acre at the amusement park, the ride will propel riders through the linear induction motor system and into a maze of loops and turns-- including 30 vertical curves and more than 25 compound horizontal curves. the ride's special effects are patterned after the 1960s science fiction television series The Outer Limits. The coaster will keep riders in the dark, because Outer Limits will be completely enclosed, similar to the Space Mountain ride at Disney World. But there's one major difference, Mr. Dangler said. "This is a thrill ride, Space Mountain is a ho-hummer." The ride's cost may be its biggest secret. David G Focke, vice-president of park maintenance and construction at Kings Island, is the man with the most say about what rides are bought for Paramount's five parks. He would not release the cost. "Let's just say that it costs more than $10 million," Mr Focke said. "Its twice as expensive as the next most expensive coaster ever built." A spokeswoman for Cedar Point amusement park in Sandusky, Ohio, said that park is building its largest coaster this year for $12 million. Outer Limits, she said, is "a really expensive roller coaster." The cost of the ride is the reason admission will increase this year at the park. Ms Boos said. However, the $2-per-ticket price increase, to $28.95, largely is due to paying the park's 5,000 seasonal employees a higher wage, she said. Kings Island attracted nearly 3 million visitors last year. Thanks to the hype the ride will receive today at the Chicago convention, there likely will be a crowd at the park when the ride is unveiled. But coaster fans won't be the only ones there. Premier Rides' Jim Seay says he expects the Navy to be present when Outer Limits takes off. Caption under the photo- This is a model of the world's first hill-less roller coaster, which will debut at Kings Island this year. The ride will be enclosed. Side caption- How It Works- Paramount's Kings Island's Outer Limits--Flight of Fear is the first roller coaster in the world that will not depend on the long climb of a first hill to propel it through loops and turns. Instead, it will gets its power electrically, through magnetic waves, said Jim Seay, executive vice president of Premier Rides in Millersville, Md. "The system essentially creates a travelling magnetic wave and it's the magnetic wave that pushes the vehicles from a stationary standpoint to the high speeds," Mr Seay said. The track leading to the ride is lines with 44 sets of grey boxes, each 3 to 4 feet long. Each box is a linear induction motor. A laser beam behind the coaster shoots down the track and relays to two computers with motors to turn on or off. The entire ride takes less than two minutes, and about 2,000 people can ride Outer Limits in an hour.
    4 points
  17. Thanks @PatchesC! This is some of the best insight we’ve had on Camp Cedar yet.
    4 points
  18. I'd say so, haven't seen the park that crowded yet this season. I've definitely never seen that many people watching the parade!
    4 points
  19. You should buy @KIghostguy 's book!
    4 points
  20. So preliminary things to note with a Hickory cabin so people can plan ahead. Shower is 6'6" floor to ceiling, I didn't notice until I realized how easy I can reach the shower head. If you're tall chances are you'll be sitting on the bench to get water on you. 432 does NOT currently have blinds at the bunk beds. Some cabins around us do though. Having only 3 of us, daughter chose the loft. None of the lofts have blinds. We took the fitted sheets from the bunk beds and was able to drape them over the windows for privacy. A fitted crib sheet would cover them well if you have a large group. Bedroom, the side away from the door you've got about 20" between the bed and wall. The upper window above also has no cover, lofts in the cabin next to you can see in. I'll say the privacy thing is a bit annoying personally. If you plan to use the sofa bed there is very little room to walk between it and the kitchen island, maybe a foot. So put whoever is going to wake up first there lol. Kitchen has pots and skillets, but no pans for the oven. Considering they sell biscuits in the shop, a bit surprising. The is is not flat, and depending on your cabin you may have a steep slope vs flat land to play on. The booking page says there is an electric fireplace, there isn't. Maybe they plan to put them in during colder months? Shuttle to the park is decent and A/C who doesn't enjoy that. They run until 10:30pm. The driver said there are two of them running consistently. If one pulls off, the other with be by in less than 10 minutes. Ironwood Grill breakfast this morning started at 8am and ran until 10am. Decent prices and serving sizes. Hashbrown casserole is a favorite, servers are friendly and food maybe took 10 minutes. The pool is deceptively larger than I expected from pictures I'd seen. Decent amount of chairs, pool towels are provided as well. When I get home tomorrow or Monday I'll get pictures uploaded and notes about other sites around us. We are beside the interstate, if you're a light sleeper, you'll want background noise.
    4 points
  21. In general, I feel like Kings Island is better staffed this season than years past. I know this wasn’t the case earlier in the season, but I think the wage increases convinced a lot of people to apply who wouldn’t have applied otherwise. At the beginning of the season, the park was moving people from different departments all over the place. LOL! When Rivertown Freestyle is basically open everyday now, that says something about staffing. Some of the midway games have been closed all season, but I think that was more of a cost-saving decision than not being able to find workers.
    3 points
  22. Right. I’m not guaranteeing anything. It just would make an incredible amount of sense of the decision were made right now.
    3 points
  23. Mini Eiffel Tower with Eiffel Tower
    3 points
  24. Looks like some trees have been wrapped for Winterfest already in Tower Gardens. I’m not crazy, right? These lights haven’t been up all season, right?
    3 points
  25. As someone in the cast, my days are ~8 hours long. I start by getting costume and makeup on, then I'm in the opening processions and out and about near bandstand until it's time for the parade, then I do that. After the parade I hang around bandstand until fireworks are over. When it isn't Carnivale time, I'm a tech in Entertainment. Most of the cast are in other shows / have other jobs in the park throughout the rest of the season.
    3 points
  26. Website with more information https://www.sixflags.com/fiestatexas/attractions/dr-diabolicals-cliffhanger Seems like a great addition to the park
    3 points
  27. Leviathan, GateKeeper, and Fury 325 work as front gate coasters because they are wedged in and become the 1st thing people see. KI already has a great skyline so having a giga where a bunch of trees used to be would look ugly IMO. Besides, I like how Orion is in the back. If it was in the front foot traffic would be somewhat limited to the front of the park. Orion keeps people going to the back left of the park. You need some balance. Imagine CP without Maverick and Steel Vengeance in the back to balance out the rides in the front.
    3 points
  28. Most of the parade “cast” is out and about in character from 5 on. They are roaming their respective areas until parade time, then all assemble. The support staff (traffic control, safety etc) do have other jobs I believe (Manning info/craft booth, guest assistance, etc) but also join the parade at “go time”. They learned the choreography for the dance break, so it’s not like they just randomly grab associates and give them carnivale shirts. Not sure if people “signed up” to work the parade from other roles and are just trained in 1-2 practices and scheduled accordingly, but that’s my guess that only the “featured costumed performers” are actually cast by entertainment.
    3 points
  29. Last night was my first experience with the Grand Carnival. My kids go to bed around 8 so we are usually long gone by the time the parade starts. However last night we stayed out late. The parade was amazing. Not in my wildest dreams did I think a ten minute parade could be that much fun. The dancing the floats. The stilt walkers. All good stuff. I even got some needs and didn’t have to flash anybody. Seriously make time for the parade. Does anyone know how they staff the parade? There were a bunch of people involved. Do they have other park jobs and just get dressed up for the parade? Finding that many people to do a couple of hours of work a night would seem like a difficult take to me.
    3 points
  30. The red rails were just for the model. They were never painted red. I rode the ride in June or July of its first year. The line at opening stretched past the Zephyr, with all queues open. There was a also a lot of down time. My cousin and aunt attempted to ride it a second time before leaving that day. The ride broke down and by the time they got out it was 10:15 (they got in line around 8). We then went to Skyline down the road from the park (Fields Ertel), and they ran out of chili! They only had enough chili to make half of our order.
    3 points
  31. Got the “French Whitecastles” I actually really liked the cheese they used.
    3 points
  32. One more thing: the most awesome RV I have seen lol. Was tempted to knock on their door.
    3 points
  33. Here is the breakfast menu, and more importantly what's on tap
    3 points
  34. Here's a few pictures of Hickory, we rigged some sheets to cover windows. Also folded the sofa bed out to give you a better idea how much room there is. Interior cabin width is 11ft (yes I took a tape measure lol) I like that you can use some of the space under the ladder for storage. There is also a small cubby above the fridge, and under the bathroom sink is open as well. The bathroom cabinet is all the linens, no room for storage there. The bedroom has 2 small closets, there were no hangers in ours though. Used a suitcase as a bedside table. Honestly if I had to put up with 8 people in this cabin for multiple days, I'd probably be spending as little time in it as possible because it does seem to be a bit tight. I plan to book an Aspen for Haunt when they release dates. The kitchen layout may make it feel less cramped.
    3 points
  35. Well…I will “prime the well” so to speak…looking forward to seeing some good pictures from Grand Carnivale.
    3 points
  36. Orion made a good first impression on me last year with the 10 rides we were able to get on it, but this year on our trip I enjoyed it even more with the full trains. We were fortunate to get 14 more rides, 8 of them coming in row 8. It's moved past Millennium now into my 2nd spot among the 5 Cedar Fair GIGAs, behind only Fury (in 1st by a wide margin). It was really enjoyable from start to finish, and that first drop is spectacular in rows 7 or 8.
    3 points
  37. Finally made it to get the Carnivale experience last night. @electricsun and I purchase a tasting card and it was a fun experience going around and trying the different foods. The stage was hopping the whole time and kids were having such a great time. The parade was awesome and I do like the later start to enjoy the lights on the floats that others have mentioned. We treated the evening like a date night and not a park trip. It was a really fun experience between the food, entertainment, and the atmosphere. We loved the whole Grand Carnivale experience start to finish. We definitely recommend the season pass holder tasting card. Some tents had really long lines and the line spread right across the whole midway blocking it. I was confused as to why someone wasn't directing people to line up away from the midway or setting up switchbacks, especially at the China and Italy tent.
    3 points
  38. "They are putting me back in storage for how long?"
    2 points
  39. Doing it the other way around would make more sense to me- KI is closer to a major city than CP, not to mention there's more land options to work with around Mason. I'll applaud CF for trying to pull more $$$ into Sandusky though.
    2 points
  40. Sooooooo they are building a dive coaster called cliff hanger... but not off the ACTUAL CLIFF at the park?!
    2 points
  41. It was our first Carnivale, I'll say I'm already planning to save a few more vacation days at work next year so I can go more than once. I know one of the noncostumed workers with the Spain float works in the crafts area. That guy is "COMPLETLY AWESOME" to my kid lol
    2 points
  42. I highly doubt it. Compliance in general at businesses dropped off as time went on even when masks were still mandated by the state or local government. That ship has sailed and will take a lot worse than what we went through before we will see government mandates again...best case all we will see are strong recommendations along with certain cities implementing mandates, but I do not see it at the state level at this point.
    2 points
  43. 2 points
  44. I thought this deserved it's own thread in the history section.
    2 points
  45. What I can remember about the other sites. This is the further most site still under construction. It's shown as Wood Sorrel Way on the site map. These are the cabins behind next to one lake, 510 is closest to the road. Not much yard space. Cabins 440, 442, & 444 seem to have good size and almost flat yards if you want to have games. Other parts I wasn't able to take pictures of: Cottages 426-428 have shaded firepits, but not a large yard if thay what your looking for. 433 & 434 have a steep slope starting at their patio/picnic table (if you like to get pretty tipsy maybe avoid or you'll have a fun roll down the hill) The RV sites don't seem to have much lawn but of course are flat. Best chances for space would be on the corner lots.
    2 points
  46. In addition to the things on tap in the restaurant bar, there's also kona big wave, shock top, and shotgun wedding on tap at beach box
    2 points
  47. For our Cedar Point trip this week (Tues-Fri) it was very busy each day. On Friday, they ran two trains, which I hadn't personally observed in years. I had heard it was common on Fall Saturdays, but both Myron H and GA Boeckling were running, and it was great to see. We did a full lap on both.
    2 points
  48. Don, thanks for clearing that up. I know this is unrelated but let me tell you guys, the Grand Carnival is one great event. Colorful, energetic, Almost as good as Winterfest, which is magical.
    2 points
  49. Please tell me I'm not the only person who actually lol'd at that. I'm happy to see the events are still happening, I'm also pretty interested to see if they will nix any haunts and add new ones if they were already planned.
    2 points
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