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  1. We are working with KIE to migrate their whole gallery over to KIC's main site. Don't fret, it won't disappear.
    20 points
  2. 2nd drop paint job was posted on KI FB page found here: https://www.facebook.com/visitkingsisland/photos/a.226729858367/10161524564638368/ This looks nothing short of amazing. Credit: KingsIslandPR
    16 points
  3. The Train Photo Opportunity and Q&A was done this way so attendees can come and go at their leisure, have an opportunity to capture better photos, have more of conversation with the engineers and conductors, and just overall to make it a better experience for those interested in the story behind our steam trains. Having the Banshee backstage photo opportunity during the ERT session allows attendees to come and go at their leisure and offered us the chance to fit in two additional activities after the park opened, starting with the chance for everyone to ride the Grand Carousel together and to offer a book signing with Evan Ponstingle, author of Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. Now you may not care about a ride on the Grand Carousel, but for many of the attendees it's something they're going to enjoy doing together as a group. I'm the one who thought Flight of Fear ERT at night was a great idea. It's located next to Orion, near The Racer and falls within the footprint of where the night time ERT rides are located, which is Coney Mall, Area 72 and Rivertown. There are two different experiences being offered on Flight of Fear. One night it's lights on, the next night it's lights off. Where is the tour of the spaghetti bowl and Haunt maze walkthroughs? While things are getting back to normal from the COVID-19 pandemic, we're not there yet with being able to have a group of this size together in an indoor facility. In developing the itinerary for this event, it's always done with what the majority of the attendees would enjoy in mind.
    16 points
  4. Faulting the park for people not being able to control themselves is incredibly unfair. There was a garage sale in my neighborhood this past Saturday. It's a nice subdivision with home values $200,000 to $350,000 Cars lined on both sides of the street. Moving cars could not pass by. Garage sale cars illegally parked in many driveways. Police had to block off both entrances to my subdivision from letting more cars enter. Then the fights started. And a stabbing....no joke. PGA Championship took place in South Carolina this past weekend. Crowd rushed Brooks Koepka and knocked him around causing more pain & injury to an already injured knee. Crowd was way out of control. We have all seen fights over stupid crap like facemasks, or those butthurt because their entitlement is not acknowledged by someone else. Road rage videos everywhere. There is one similarity of the above examples- no teenagers were involved. They are all adults committing these horrific acts. Covid has mentally affected many people negatively where social interaction was lost. Combine that with everyone's head in their phone for the past decade plus and it's not a massive surprise people have zero clue how to act socially. We all need to just be nice to each other. Not everything is meant or intended to be malicious. Agreeing to disagree and move on is SO MUCH easier than fighting like wild animals. There is no magic wand to solve all these issues and more rules and restrictions will only create more animosity. We all need to take a step back, breathe, and really ask ourselves- is getting mad over the little things really worth it and what is the endgame you are looking for by getting so uncontrollably mad?
    16 points
  5. We all, in some form or another, take ownership in the park. Every single one of us should be outraged that this happened at a place as beloved as Kings Island. The mere fact that this has occurred makes me sick on my stomach. For the love of God there were families and little, little children there. Its simply disgusting. I trust in the park's leadership enough to know this sort of thing will not be tolerated. If that means hard rules must be instituted, fine by me. I support any measure the park takes to ensure the safety of ALL guests, and ALL employees.
    16 points
  6. Look how much is being done!!! https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2021/december/beast-of-a-project-this-winter-at-kings-island
    15 points
  7. We just got an update on The Racer Repaint at Kings Island for the 50th anniversary. I don't know about you, but this already looks AMAZING! BLOG POST: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2022/march/bringing-back-original-color-scheme-on-the-racer
    15 points
  8. Ah! I put this together with my supervisor, thank you for taking a picture, I can't go up in the tower during work, I'm glad it turned out clean! Here are some progress pictures:
    14 points
  9. I just got off The Beast. I am more than impressed with the changes. Going into the first tunnel you actually feel laterals. And the Helix feels like you're going another 10 miles an hour smooth as butter with major laterals there as well. Awesome job Gravity Group. They brought a new life to The Beast. Thank you KI!
    14 points
  10. Soul = Ghost = Resurrection Son of Phantom Beast RMC Theatre confirmed. See y’all on media day.
    14 points
  11. I love the new decals on the International Street trashcans. Only saw one so far.
    14 points
  12. For the majority of the attendees, Coasterstock is not about ERT. It's a weekend celebration, a big "Family Reunion" for many. A chance to unite or reunite with other like-minded people. Oh, sure, there's ERT. But it's far from the most important part of the event for many of those who return to participate in the event year after year. And the event was created to be that way. You keep going on and on about Adventure Express not being part of the ERT lineup. As noted earlier in this thread, it is not located within the footprint of where other rides are located during the ERT sessions. However, you will be able to get in several rides on Adventure Express immediately following each of the morning ERT sessions during the first hour is open and you can get in a couple of night rides before the park closes as well.
    13 points
  13. Favorite pic so far today.
    12 points
  14. He acknowledged the photos but also basically stated the park is not ready to discuss anything about retracking work, and would share more information later. Gravity Group did a presentation and they confirmed they are working on The Beast but said nothing about what they are doing on the project. Overall not a lot.
    12 points
  15. I am at the ACE holiday party. Don has confirmed that the park is planning on going retro with the paint on Racer, it is planned to be red, white, and blue.
    12 points
  16. So I hate to hit you guys with a serious comment but I feel like I have to post this. I have already said that I had covid and that it was pretty miserable, but that was the beginning of the sickness and it’s already gone through my whole family, so here goes. I got it first, I immediately started with a 104 degree fever. Highest fever I’ve had in my life, followed by a sore throat that even made it hard to swallow water. Because of this I didn’t eat much and lost a lot of weight. After I was done with the virus, I stayed home for another week not only because my family still had it, but because the virus basically drained me and I was exhausted. My sisters all got it and they had moderate symptoms and did pretty well. My parents however had the same symptoms as me and are still currently dealing with covid pneumonia. This story leads me to say that if you haven’t had covid yet, I would wear a mask for the sake of the unknown. Me and my parents happened to get severe cases and it still kind of affects us to this day, almost a month through it. If you know of anyone with the sickness, try and help them out as much as possible, just like my family and friends did who I am beyond thankful for. So again, if you haven’t had covid yet, I would advise wear the mask, and if anyone you know has it help them out as much as you can. I know I was very ignorant with it at first and after actually getting covid, I am pleading that you take this advice because it might end up severe like what my family had to deal with. Whew, all done. Thanks for reading this!
    12 points
  17. It was a $31 million budget. You should really read Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. I think you would find it enlightening!
    12 points
  18. Views of the growth on the tunnel from the train!
    12 points
  19. When I was a Park Police Officer, it was nice having a few less crowded weekends in April to help the young security officers learn how to handle situations that could escalate quickly. For some, this is their first security job. Some are 18 and having to deal with their peers and people who are much older than them, which can be daunting. Some think they can handle situations like that, until it actually happens. I will not be commenting on how the situation was handled, but I give a ton of credit to those who put themselves in the middle of that mess and tried to take care of the situation and I hope the park recognizes that as well. I fully believe the park will make adjustments to ensure guests have a feeling of safety. Things will get better.
    12 points
  20. As noted on the park's website, White Water Canyon along with Soak City Water Park will open for the 2022 season May 28. A new map will be uploaded then.
    11 points
  21. Look at all these banners lining the pathway to the entrance! https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/1511849011296276482/photo/1
    11 points
  22. Looks like the old western town will be getting a new lease on life. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2022/march/k.i.--miami-valley-railroad-part-of-kings-islands-ride-refurbishment-program-for-50th-anniversary-season?fbclid=IwAR30-nKfu910wXC5ZsmSawOd3d6QHi9ToeNhd-V8E8mEIT1vv0AXFkEBIok
    11 points
  23. I am honestly more excited for the park this year with all of the improvements than if they were getting a new ride. Kings Island will look great this season.
    11 points
  24. It would be really nice if they planted some trees around the drops of DB. It would be really nice diving down into a forest, rather then diving down into barren space.
    11 points
  25. The budget was $31 million. Yes, they had to work within it, but they had enough money to do what you said. Like I said, it was a choice. The length is because they thought that this layout proposal had the best pacing. You might think it's dumb, but that is the reasoning. Why should I believe it? Because I sat across a table from Mike Koontz and was looking him in the eyes when he was telling me this. It lines up with his vision for the park. It was corroborated by other people I interviewed. And why do you think they would lie about this and not anything else I talked about in the book? People can misremember...but I do not believe any of the people I interviewed lied to me. I do believe that people should feel however they want to about stuff that gets built, but the notion that Cedar Fair is purposely making Kings Island worse off or that they purposely cheapened out on Orion just isn't supported by any known facts. The management teams at both the park and corporate levels adore Kings Island, its history, and its legacy, and are committed to investing into the park and making it the best it can be. I just wish that love had translated into the 50th Anniversary logo!
    11 points
  26. He will (thank goodness!) continue his responsibilities at KI but will take on a bigger chain-wide role with festivals. Congrats, Chef! Well deserved! https://www.linkedin.com/posts/james-d-major-prochef-ii-265ba39_fun-activity-6853465147348959232-7QJO
    11 points
  27. I just wish they would plant trees to replace ones they remove for construction though in areas they can go back into. Think they did a good job with removal for Mystic Timbers, but look at Diamondback. It was completely cleared and it has been left flat and empty since. It opened 12 years ago now. That area could have been pretty well reforested by now aside for space for tracks and and necessary roads for it. Think it would look a lot nicer and be more fun to dip in and out of the trees, plus make it feel faster with you zipping past trees closer by.
    11 points
  28. Found something cool while packing to move. Flight of Fear's announcement article in the Cincinnati Enquirer, January 13, 1996. I'll post the article in there at some.
    11 points
  29. Could they be building the rest of Adventure Express?
    11 points
  30. The show quality on Mystic Timbers and Orion is embarrassing. The broken Shed music is just one aspect. The plaza music for Mystic Timbers also isn’t playing, and the last TV before going up the stairs has half of its screen burnt out. Over at Orion, the music doesn’t play in the station or above the lockers any more (although the speakers above the lockers DO still play the Kings Island Live app announcement). The light in the meteor doesn’t work anymore either. I understand if things like these have problems for a day or two, but there’s no excuse for these things having been down/broken for a month at this point—especially on two showpiece rides for the park.
    11 points
  31. Let’s not just assume that Halloween Haunt is already cancelled and get mad at Cedar Fair. We don’t know that yet. Even if Kings Island runs a more family oriented event instead of their typical event, I could see them trying to open a few scare mazes if they have the staffing to do so. Also, people have to realize that it is impossible for Cedar Fair to please everyone. Kings Island is obviously trying to please their customers, and they for sure wish they didn’t have staffing issues and limited park hours. If Kings Island could control everything, we would have a season like 2019. Kings Island literally cannot do anything more than raise their wages to attract new workers to bring back normal park hours. And, since Halloween Haunt is apparently a big money maker for Cedar Fair, they for sure wish they could just have it like any other year. The problem is, this year is not normal, so they may not be able to have Halloween Haunt like they usually would. They for sure will try their best to host the event or something similar, but they don’t necessarily have complete control over that. Kings Island is stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one side, they have passholders who claim they don’t get enough value with their season passes while others think the season passes are too cheap. Is Kings Island screwing over customers by not giving them good value for their season pass or are they giving away the gate? No matter what Kings Island does, there will always be people who are unhappy. This is true for any business. Let’s also look at the good on things and not always the negative. Too often, I feel like people only come on this site to bash things or complain. If you look at Kings Island for what it is, it is a well-kept, well-landscaped amusement park that is home to a world-class ride collection. In terms of operations, Kings Island is operating seven days a week, Kings Island is not closing lines early, and Kings Island is running live entertainment. A lot of regional amusement parks cannot say the same.
    11 points
  32. So I've been pretty silent on the subject but I decided after seeing what KI has posted it's time to unload some thoughts. The whole country is hurting for people to work. Kings Island, and Cedar Fair mind you, has implemented a lot of policies and plans to accommodate their staffing issues and they are still hurting. Just based on the video, the subsequent day, and just the environment in general, I believe in the "punish the criminal, not the good intentioned populous". I myself have been to the park solo when I was a minor for years and never did I get in trouble with the park. I always followed the rules, made sure to be polite, and generally be a good patron to the park. I never thought of being a "gang" and picking a fight with another group, and never will. The individuals who acted, started, and harassed other patrons should be barred for an extremely long time and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Make the policies clear, make them open, make them available, make an example of whoever causes a brawl like this. I do not believe we should punish good minded youths due to the acts of a group of individuals who probably need some help. I have seen people get escorted out of the park, it does happen and should happen. I have nothing but extreme respect for security, and to a grander degree our first responders like Lifeguards and EMTS. They put up with some of the worst from people, and I can speak from first hand experience. They care about safety, they work late shifts even to ensure guest safety. I believe that KI should try to employ more security, enforce their policies, and really make statements that even if you are a minor, there are extreme consequences for unruly behavior.
    11 points
  33. We can use this thread to talk about general 2022 discussions.
    10 points
  34. To whoever the gentleman in the glasses with the Cedar Point straps is that was waiting in line for The Beast, you're my hero. Early in the day I had kids sprinting past me in line and I was angry at myself for not reacting quick enough to call out the line jumpers. You, however, were ready. 4 men tried to cut all the way to the front of The Beast and you confronted them. They told you to F off and you guaranteed them you would make sure they did not get on the ride. Sure enough, as they were boarding the ride security came and pulled them out. You did us park goers proud and so did security. I stopped into guest services to let them know how swift and professional security was.
    10 points
  35. Racer paint job is getting close.
    10 points
  36. Not even that, all the improvements they're making around the park! Beast re-track work, 1400+ more feet than Racers work in the 2020-2021 off-season! Multiple ride repaints; Drop Tower, BLSC, Adventure Express, FAAC, and others. Repaving sections of the parking lot. Love seeing all these capital investments!
    10 points
  37. Some interesting updates, from the KIC Podcast with Brian Kosmac. I highly recommend you listen if you haven't already! I'm mainly here to summarize some of the more interesting parts. For those who don't know, the GG engineered pre-cut track takes the stress of trains flexing the boards, which flexes the nails, which causes the nails to lose their strength over time. That's how those coasters get rough. This track takes the nails out of the equation, it's entirely on the wood. Longer lasting + Much more Powerful = Less Maintenance. Keep in mind it is still wood, so there will be maintenance still of course, but just less of it. This is good news for The Beast and Racer, I could easily see GG getting the opportunity to come back and do more work on these rides in the future. Brian goes into more detail over this in the podcast, so I recommend listening to that. Some interesting things to start off, is The Beasts tunnels are especially cold, so that's fun! The original designers took a very MacGyver approach to the project, Brian noting the turn out of the first tunnel was obviously increased in banking early on, the helix, etc. This of course being due to how it was designed, being so long ago without computers and not a full career of experience like John Allen. It was really interesting to hear Brian's engineering views on the old design practice on Beast vs how it's done today. It seems we may have partial confirmation of part of the in-house re-track; the second drop, which is around 400-ish feet long. Brian mentioned how they, the park, were doing work in that area. Next up, what they're calling "Sycamore Hollow", the area before the midcourse tunnel - or what we now know as the Coon tunnel, and the brake shed, is additionally something the Gravity Group is designing but not directly building. This is the 4 foot raise before the tunnel. Moving the ledgers off of the ground basically. According to Brian, GG "did the engineering" and passed it over to Kings Island so they could do it as part of their in-house work. Moving to the Helix, we can expect to see a drastically different structure - partly new, partly old. According to Brian, there will be a lot more steel present. There was no mention of anything relating to trims, so I am unsure if they will remain or not after this work. What I believe is the trims are there to decrease the stress of the trains on the structure, that and make the ride more bearable for the riders. That about covers the main topics, once again would recommend listening to this podcast if you haven't already!
    10 points
  38. [grumbles something under his breath about how Beast's entrance was perfect before SOMEone built a giant red coaster in Rivertown]
    10 points
  39. Here's a wonderful pair of photos showing the flume with the lights. Both photos were previously shared in the Kings Island History Facebook group by user Pete Leaf Peters.
    10 points
  40. Yes. Apple announced the iPhone almost 6 months before it launched because they knew that their "secret" would be revealed before they could announce it due to the fact that the they had to register it with the FCC. I'm sure they would have wanted to announce it on Tuesday and release it on the following Friday like they do now, but unfortunately, such is life. The park is well aware that as time goes on, it is more likely that stuff will leak out. What DIDN'T we know about Orion? We even knew the two possible names. We knew the height. We knew the theme. We knew the queue. What didn't we know? The color? I bet if they had waited another week we would have known that. Certain individuals at the park made the decision they made and it clearly has backfired. Once it's announced, it'll be mildly interesting rather than big news. This is the world we live in, either you can relate to the public or not. It's not on your terms, it's on theirs. The park was well aware of what you were doing. They somehow both didn't endorse what you were doing, but also embraced it. The synergy was amazing between the site and the park for a long time. I remember writing the front page article, "Action at Fort Cooper" and that was the media's first alert of any action. This was before track even started showing up. The article highlighted your photos of land clearings in the area which lead to the speculation. The whole thing was brilliant. It seeded interest and was a total, "You know that I know that you know...." situation. See also, "Two original things being removed from the park" back in late 2014. It wasn't Racer. (It was the parking tolls) It wasn't going to be Racer. We knew it wasn't. You knew it wasn't. But there was pictures of The Racer along with the article, so you HAD to stop and think... the media noticed. Maybe if there was more creative communications now and less Tweeting out selfies with news reporters then more things like that could happen again.
    10 points
  41. Great, great, great news!! The plaza and Shed music are both back at Mystic Timbers! Unfortunately, still no music in Orion’s station and locker area.
    10 points
  42. For a site that likes to decode, it is surprising how quick some here are to dismiss what may be a clue. Maybe it is a clue or maybe it isn’t, but nonetheless, it should be something to observe and watch over time. Only then do we see if it were an early indication or not. It is clear some here only want to decode once it is painfully obvious something is happening and plans are available at city hall LOL. What fun is that? When the fence went up for Orion construction that really got the speculation going, but there were clues prior to that for those paying attention… Part of the fun is figuring it out a couple years before it is painfully obvious an announcement is imminent. Apparently some don’t have the patience for that kind of multi-year sleuthing lol. The survey markers may be a simple water line project, or it may not. The County budget simply says it is 10,300 feet of 12-inch waterline along Columbia Road. Columbia Road is a long road and could be anywhere along Columbia Road since a map is not part of the budgetary document. But the existing line is a 15-inch water line in this vicinity. Rarely would a county that is growing downsize a water main… And if it is for something years down the road, of course KI will deny it is for a new improvement. They time when they announce attractions for a reason. In addition, the budget says the project runs from 2022 (design) to 2026 (construction completed). So any survey work seen at the end of 2020 is not related to that project. A waterline of that size is a design contract of no more than 9 months – year tops, so they would not have done survey work in 2020 for a project of that size for the design to be completed in 2022. Further, a waterline project of this size would not be designed in-house by County staff – it would go out to a consulting firm through a competitive process. According to the records (unless I missed it in my review), there has been no Columbia Road waterline project that has gone out for RFQ/RFP for design services, nor has there been a contract authorized for design services of said project. Based on the timetable of the budget, I would expect to see that happen sometime this year for survey and design to be started either later this year or the contract completely performed in 2022… So if the surveying stakes that showed up at the end of 2020 cannot be confirmed as a county project by review of County records, then it is a strong likelihood that this work was done for a private entity. Could be KI, could be Duke, Cincinnati Bell, Great Wolf, or any other entity not bound by public records requirements. We really do not know at this point, but if decoding is your thing, shouldn't you be watching for activity in that area to try to figure it out? For all intents and purposes, this final portion of Columbia Road is an unofficial vacated road. Perhaps the time has come to officially vacate the road and turn the parcel over to Kings Island, which really should have happened once that road was cut in two because there is no reason now other than for Kings Island staff to be on that road at that section as it is a dead-end road with nothing but KI on it. It serves no public purpose and spending tax dollars on that road is poor stewardship of public funds. Perhaps as part of the condition before it can be officially vacated and turned over to Kings Island is that the waterline needs to be moved. Does it need to be moved for a future expansion? Can they really downsize the water line that is there now? We don’t know… Now we see what appears to be some work around the Timberwolf area. Maybe it is simply getting rid of dying trees and maybe some modifications are being done to Timberwolf. Or maybe it is the early stages of a future improvement 2-3 years from now. Time will tell. That is part of the fun and mystery of decoding – can we figure it out before anything obvious happens that the casual observer picks up on. Can we figure it out before the wood fence shows up and plans show up at city hall? These are the fun things to do. Opening weekend we saw a crane show up in the lot. Was it a clue? Was it simply a contractor paid KI to park it there over the weekend for a project close by? Could it be to salvage the Timberwolf sign and some material from the top of the theater? Is it for replacement of the HVAC units on the top of KI Theater? Is it to perform routine maintenance access to any number of rides where using a crane to remove/replace a part would be advantageous and if so, was something not running that could be a clue …and then we see Delirium is down. Time would tell if it was just for Delirium or did they use it for something else as well. Fast forward several weeks later and it appears the crane was just for Delirium and maybe some ride maintenance that we cannot determine based on visual observation. Nothing else was done at Timberwolf other than it appears they cleaned up the backdrop that gave an illusion of being dismantled. The roof is still all B-52s Love Shacked. The sign is still there. That is the fun part. And now Music in the Parks has already occurred this year at KI and was the event held in Timberwolf like in years past (hint it was not). But not as many schools participated as in years past either. But Music in the Parks is scheduled for 2022 at KI already, so could it be in Timberwolf or not like this year? All coincidental or a clue? I think Shaggy and others nailed it why KI will not invest any money into Timberwolf. Some folks here have some good suggestions on what they could do to make that a music venue for local acts, etc., but I don’t see that as being the target market KI is currently going after. To some extent KI already does that with local acts taking the stage in Festhaus, stage by fountain, temporary setups like in front of Festhaus for the past fall event and inside the enclosed patio at Hanks for Winterfest. KI has the facilities in place to host those types of bands if they wanted. Timberwolf served a purpose at one time, and with minimal expenses, they could maintain it to hold SpiritSong and a few other events, but at some point it will be removed, and the question is how long before a new attraction is announced do they remove it - the fall before or years before or after the announcement?. Plus SpiritSong staff is less than half the size it used to be, so will they even be in the business to put together such an event? Could KI put together an event in the parking lot like they did for the Knievel jumps? So we have markers that started showing up last year and now within close vicinity is activity around Timberwolf. Maybe purely coincidental, but I will be keeping an eye on it for future clues that indicate whether it is purely coincidental or related…that is the fun part…figuring it out 3 years before it is announced is the fun part. Not much to decode once we see the fence go up and construction going on that makes it painfully obvious something is happening and pulling plans from city hall a few months before the park announces it - at that point is more confirming before the official announcement than it is decoding. Keep in mind a site admin started this original thread….this thread and the crane thread were posted here by a site admin before another site everyone likes to bash even posted about it…just saying…
    10 points
  43. I got into the park itself around 1130. I went on Orion first. It was about a 40 minute wait. Next I went to Flight of Fear. That was easily a good hour and a half wait but a ton of fun. Went to The Beast afterwards and that was about a 30 minutes wait. That was one of the most incredibly amazing wooden coasters I ever rode. The last part where you go down the hill slightly sideways into the two tunnels was absolutely incredible. I then took a ton of photos. And decided I would save the rest for another day. The reason I did that is they said my ticket is good for another admission free so I plan to make the 10 hour drive back from Pennsylvania before the season is over. Overall I thought the park was awesome even though I only did 3 rides.
    10 points
  44. From Kings Island's website, the park will host a day long celebration on the 29th of April exactly 50 years from when the park opened. It'll feature special ceremonies and entertainment throughout the day and a special fireworks spectacular to honor the park's first 50 years. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/events/50th-anniversary/
    9 points
  45. Id LOVE to have every park in the country do what KK did, this is another example (in my opinion) of that park "doing it right" as others should do. Parks ARE NOT, repeat for those in the back, ARE NOT intended to be babysitters for obnoxious adolescents.
    9 points
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