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  1. I visited CGA about 20 years ago. My first, and only, time (so far) seeing the park in person. I knew that it was surrounded by corporate buildings, but I was still shocked at just how shoe-horned it was. It is literally surrounded on 3 sides by an office park, and then a residential area on the other. It was obvious then that the park had no where to grow. Frankly, its a wonder this hasn't happened sooner. Its always fought battle after battle due to its location - especially with the 49'ers stadium adjacent. I hate to see the loss of a long-standing park, but can also understand how it makes financial sense. That land is like sitting on gold. I cant imagine that the 49'ers will not have some say as to how much developing the new land owners can do... they share the parking lot with PGA. P.S. - Count me on the side of not wanting any cast-off rides from CGA relocated to KI. I'd rather see them go to other parks. That having been said - send their flyers to Carowinds, and bring our Eagles back. Now THAT would make me happy.
  2. The footage used in the KI YouTube video was filmed just prior to its closure. There are certain unfortunate indicators in the footage that it was near the end of its life - most notably the condition of the attraction's animatronics. The park edited the footage from the ride too, for instance, the levitating dress does not appear because in its final 2 seasons someone had ruined it with fake blood. Adding the blood was a poor choice made by someone that wasn't smart enough to realize the ride was designed to be tongue-in-cheek, not macabre. Prior to the closure, DAFE, as well as ACE was invited for tours. Most of the figures had been removed by the time of the ACE tour. There were also several "personal" tours given, both before it was deconstructed as well as after the transformation to Scooby had begun. Final rides on Phantom theatre were done by the general public. I was in the 3rd to the last car. The final 2 were filled with employees that worked on the ride. Here's some fun, abeit dark & overexposed pics of myself and friends playing around with some of the props during an individual tour we took before PT was removed and during another tour as it was being converted to SDATHC...
  3. The park has already said that they will be using that area to add something "for everyone to enjoy..." They also are quoted as saying most of their guests dont like to "get thrown around on a rollercoaster." https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/2022/05/28/construction-begins-transformation-cedar-points-beachfront-area-wicked-twister-sandusky-GateKeeper/9929021002/ I think they re-iterated it at the debacle that was Coastermania. Doesn't sound like a ginormous coaster to me... Shaggy
  4. The reason I personally preferred KC over any B&M standup was simple. It only had one inversion. The B&M's have inversion after inversion, thus the pressure on your legs/groin increases throughout the ride. I've ridden Chang, Riddler's Revenge, Georgia Scorcher, Iron Wolf, Mantis and Vortex. I also rode King Cobra, Skyrider and Shockwave. The Togos were a far more enjoyable ride to me.
  5. I saw the show yesterday. I really, really enjoyed it! I actually got "misty" mid-way through the show because I realized how virtually every person in the audience was excited and rooting for the show. That's, no doubt, because of the special place that the original ride has in so many people's hearts. Its designed to be campy, corny, silly fun - and I hope everyone unfamiliar with the ride "gets" that. There's a lot of in-jokes and references that may go over the heads of those unfamiliar with the history. For instance, there's a very obscure, tongue in cheek reference to Paramount by the Maestro when he addresses all us people "out there in the dahhhhhhhk." (Sunset Boulevard) The jokes move pretty quick, so it will require re-watching to catch all of them. I don't think its on the level of the Taft/Keco era productions like Celebration, New York New York etc. However, its an immense step up from the lack-luster entertainment that's been housed at the Kings Island Theatre since CF took ownership. There's one particularly delightful number who's inspiration was "lifted" from a classic Jim Henson Kermit/Muppet Show sketch. It was extremely well done/well suited for this production. It is the highlight of the show, but then, I've always been a sucker for a good tap number! Ironically, I found the chorus members/dancers often outshined the namkesake leads at times (not including Maestro, who was spot-on.) Although the actors portraying Houdelini, Hilda and Garbanzo definitely resembled and embodied the characters, I found their vocal talents challenged at times. (Particularly Houdelini seemed to be struggling vocally.... but that may have been because I saw the last show of the day.) Its important to point out that the show's instrumentals are pre-recorded, and many of the chorus vocals seemed canned as well. At times, the 5 leads, who are mic'd, were struggling to sing over the music - which was turned up waaaay too loud at points. I'm sure given time, this will improve. There's an awkward "slap-stick" segment at the top of the show that needs some work. Its obviously done to set-up a really great acrobatic act that comes later in the show, but it has a weird silence to it - so the audience wasn't sure how to respond. When the performance concluded, about 1/4 of the audience responded with a standing ovation. It was great to see that response. But as I said earlier, you could feel the guests "rooting" for the show the entire time. That speaks volumes. Most importantly, the line to get into the theater before the show snaked all the way to International Street. I had deja-vu, because that's EXACTLY what it was like back in the hey-day of KI entertainment. In the day, you had to make sure to show up at the theater early because the crowd to get in would be so big. I hope the crowds continue to show up for this one - allowing the park to increase the quality/budget of it's live entertainment offerings. Finally, I need to mention the lobby full of artifacts and information about the original ride. So smartly done (it sets up the premise of the show for those that, perhaps, are not familiar with the ride.) Those displays stand on their own as one of the most heart-warming throwbacks Kings Island has done for the 50th. Seeing those few original props, signage and renderings was akin to seeing cherished old friends. Kudos to the cast, the Director, crew and more for giving us this gem. Shaggy
  6. There’s a HUGE flaw with that new poster. The horse is facing the wrong way. Carousels always turn counter-clockwise. Somebody should have caught that. Tsk tsk tsk. Out of all the wonderful posters they’ve produced, this is my least favorite. Such a shame because the KI Grand Carousel is, by far, the most beautiful thing in the park. Here’s how the image should look: ( minus the obvious backwards wording of course)
  7. My hope is this show is a smash.. and gets held over into next season (as shows used to do waaaaaay back in the day,,, Celebration etc.) But more importantly, I hope its a smash and sends a message about how, to this very day, the attraction remains immensely popular... (I plan on seeing the show tomorrow... VERY excited!)
  8. I cheated and watched the dress rehearsal from last night. All I can say is WOW WOW WOW! I am man enough to admit I was an emotional mess watching it. KI has outdone themselves!!!!
  9. There seems to be a TON of nostalgic interest in this ride. I hope there's a chance that a 2.0 version can come back someday. At CS Mike Koontz mentioned an awareness of the need to re-hab Boo Blasters. He specifically cited Toy Story Mania at Disney as something he liked (he asked CS attendees how many had ridden it.) So it seems to me they are likely exploring options.
  10. That's what I was referencing. It was... at first... later, after it was neutered, it was only awesome to look at.
  11. I don’t troll, let’s make that crystal clear. The picture represents the former location of Vortex.. which when viewed from International Street was to the right of the Tower. Im pretty sure what’s going on at the site is obvious by now. If this thread were a movie, it would win the Golden Rozzi.
  12. Set your expectations high. I caught wind of something at Coasterstock… Shaggy
  13. It’s already available at the Emporium
  14. I had a terrific time at CS - as always. It really is a top-tier event. IMO it far surpasses other events - due to the comradery. It succeeds in prompting bonding among attendees on a more friendly level. As far as no posts on KIC - the fact the event was jam packed probably had something to do with it. I’m exhausted today! (That’s always the sign of a great coaster event.) Also, as a side note, it seems to me that soooooo many enthusiasts have a personal page, or site, or blog, or Instagram, or Twitter etc. Too many garnering for their own likes, clicks etc. So although there’s probably still demand for central hub of info like KIC, people with their own outlets/agendas likely save posts/pics for that. I don’t really “get” the influencer stuff - but there’s that too I suppose. I personally made a concentrated effort to simply enjoy CS this year rather than trying to photo-document every single second for myself. Makes a big difference when you just soak up the experience. It really was a great time. Looking forward to next year! Kudos to Don and the KI team. The hard work shows!
  15. Doesnt anyone else find it ironic that the "Golden Celebration" sweatshirt has silver lettering? ;-)
  16. Trough is there, its just in-between the running rails and the spine. I added some arrows to a pic of mine to show how the return trough runs down to the motor. The ascent and descent chain troughs are close to each other once the lift starts its climb. There's a cog at the apex of the lift that lies inside the spine, it flips the chain 180 for its return down to the motor.
  17. I personally hope that if KI chooses to re-use the vacant land on which most of SOB existed for another attraction, then they completely re-think the entry/access & queue to that ride (no matter if the station is used or not.) One of the worst things about SOB - that most people dont recall - was it's queue and lead-up to the station. It was not well thought out, completely esthetically un-pleasing and poorly conceived. You had to enter the "exit" of a ride, then stand in a que that was squeezed into a former observation area. The wait through those full queues then up the ramps to the station took much longer than what you expected. There was zero shade.... and it was excruciating. Once you entered the station, there was a 2-row set of switchbacks before you entered a free-for-all loading platform - jam packed with people. It's queues created a bottleneck for those exiting Top Gun... and it also afforded those exiting Top Gun the ability to line-jump. Fights were known to break out over this, so it ultimately led to park security having to regularly staff the area to keep an eye on things. With all the time they spent designing and building SOB - it amazed me that they literally threw together a queue at the very last minute. It was an obvious mis-step. Below is a picture taken (by myself) of the queue on Passholder Preview night April 28, 2000. The media preview had been held earlier that day and then SOB opened late that night (with one train - and sporadic - operation) Entry to the line was cut off around an hour or so after it opened. It operated that night, then It closed the next day and did not re-open for another month.
  18. 2005 "Tree Lighting" ceremony. Terrible quality, but you get the idea. (Pre-smart phones)
  19. And if memory serves me, it was an additional cost - not free with Season passes. I only went once to the 2005 version of WF... and that was the media preview. It was well done (specifically the live entertainment) but there wasn't enough to pull me back in for secondary or multiple visits. The "look" of 2005 WF was a bit thin.... there wasn't even 1/3 of the lights, sights and sounds of the current WF (see the pic I took below.) I would suspect that had Paramount continued ownership, the event would have returned in 2006 (and likely "tweaked" and grown.) However, by the end of the Paramount tenure, Viacom was essentially "done" with the park system. They shuffled them off to CBS who wanted nothing to do with them. So the parks weren't getting a lot of corporate support around the time of the re-introduction of WF in 2005. I will say, however, the current CF version of the tree lighting ceremony is entertaining, but doesn't hold a candle to the visual way they did it during the original incarnation in 1982-1992 and then again in 2005. When the switch was thrown - by Santa - a sparkling rocket shot from the end of the fountains all the way to the top of the tower. The star then illuminated, then the entire "tree." It was a major "oooooh ahhhhh" effect.
  20. HW has a long history of trust issues with enthusiasts dating back to the horrible Stark Raven Mad/Tamar Fellner tragedy. I expect that still plays a part in their thought process for these types of events some 20 years later...
  21. A couple added notes... The wheel's position was changed when installed at Kings Island. At Cincy's Coney it was perpendicular to the water trough, at KI it was installed parallel. The wheel was "refreshed" when the flume was converted to Wild Thornberry's, it revolved when it reopened in 2001. By 2003 the wheel was stationary and no longer revolved.
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