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Be sure to check out the latest KIC Podcast: Episode 12- KIMVRR: The Early years, with special guest, Denis Larrick (kimv1972) here.
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Sad to hear of his passing. Sending condolences to his family.
I never made it out to Surf Cincinnati.
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https://kicentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Episode-12-KIMV-RR.mp3
Robbie (CoastersRZ) and Brad (IndyGuy4KI) are joined by Denis Larrick (KIMV1972), who worked on the Kings Island and Miami Valley Railroad in 1972 and 1973 at Kings Island.
-Highlights include some stories from Dennis`s time running the trains those first two seasons.
Please share with us your thoughts on this podcast. Or if you have any additional questions for Dennis. Dennis has contributed several posts in the Amusement Park Railroad thread. If you have not had a chance to read that thread, I strongly encourage you to do so. Especially if you are a rail fan.
Thanks again to Denis for being our guest on this podcast.
Let us know if you have any thoughts for subjects for future KIC Podcast episodes.
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I didn`t think the ride was that bad. I have certainly been on coasters that were far less enjoyable. The wild mouse at Lake Winnie comes to mind. My wife and I were wanting off of the ride before it was even over because of the way it was beating us up.
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Last I heard, it was sent to South America.
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I agree with Indyguy4KI. Update the roof, and maybe get rid of the banners to some digital displays. Also, as others have said, it would be nice if the incorporated the facade structure that they typically build for Haunt and Winterfest into part of the permanant facade of the building.
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I still think that a Peanuts themed dark ride would be wonderful. And the area does need an update. Dollywood`s Wildwood Grove is simply amazing.
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And from what I understand, Michigan`s Adventure attendance has remained relatively consistent without significant (and costly) capital investment. Why spend money to put in a big new ride, when the park is already making money. Doing so would produce lower profit margins. Also, Michigan`s Adventure is not in a major metro area like Kings Island, Carowinds, or Canada`s Wonderland. The closest large city is Grand Rapids, and the park is about an hour drive away from the city, depending on where in the city you are coming from. The Grand Rapids MSA (metropolitan statistical area) had a population of 1,059,000 as of 2017. The Cincinnati MSA by comparison had 2,114,000 as of the 2010 census.
Cedar Fair has been investing some in MiA, just not large scale capital projects. And on the most recent conference calls, Cedar Fair has stated they are going to try and spread out the cadence of large capital projects at their parks for new rides, and try and fill in with more special events, like Grand Carnivale, to drive urgency and visits. Remember, the point is for every dollar invested to make the most money with that dollar. If Cedar Fair only needs to invest $0.10 into Michigan`s Adventure for Camp Snoopy to make $1, why spend $1 if it is still only going to make them $1? That would not be a good return on investment in that case. Yes, I know I oversimplified the situation.
I don`t think Cedar Fair is looking to sell off any parks anytime soon.
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Thanks for the kind words about the podcast. Wait until you hear the next episode! It will be a real treat!
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https://kicentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Episode-11-2020-Year-in-Review-Part-2.mp3
Don`t forget that you can get this podcast on iTunes, and on Spotify! Be sure to subscripe to not miss an episode!
Show notes: Join Robbie (CoastersRZ) and Brad (IndyGuy4KI) as they are joined by Tom Pavlik (Tjpavlik).
In this episode we conclude the review of the 2020 season at Kings Island.
We discuss Orion, Area 72, Tricks and Treats Fall Fest and the food. We also discuss the cancelation of Haunt and Winterfest for 2020.
We hope you enjoy this episode! Watch for Episode 12 to drop really soon! It is on a really enjoyable subject. As always, if you have any ideas for future episodes, please let me know!
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Thanks for sharing those photos, Gordon Bombay! It is amazing how much Banshee is starting to fade in those photos.
Even though there was a pandemic going on this year, I really missed working rides at Coney Island this past summer. Yes, I still worked there this year, but the place just wasn`t the same. I truly miss it.
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27 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:
Cedar Fair will own it within 5 years.
Calling it now.
It does look like something Cedar Fair would be interested in owning 100%. So they can in turn receive 100% of the profits. I wonder how their management contract is set up. We likely will never know, but I wonder if they get a percentage of profits.
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Kings Island Camp Cedar is owned by Small Brothers, LLC and Terra Firma Associates. Through a unique partnership and licensing agreement, Kings Island Camp Cedar will be managed by Cedar Fair Entertainment Company, owner of the Kings Island amusement park
Very interesting about ownership, licensing and management of that property. I am sure that will help Cedar Fair with some out of park revenue opportunities without having to front the capital costs of developing the property. I wonder if long term plans for the property include trying to buy out the developers/original owners.
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Stay tuned for Part 2 coming soon. We also just recorded episode #12. It was a really fun episode to record, and I am sure many people will love to listen to it when we release it. Stay tuned!
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Well, if you are going for coasters, then Cedar Point is an obvious choice.
My vote for best well rounded park with shows, rides and just a wonderful atmosphere, it would be Dollywood. That is the one park besides Kings Island where I have had a season pass before. I have probably visited Dollywood more than I have visited Cedar Point at this point. Don`t get me wrong, I love coasters, but Dollywood is just something special.
Disney World is a must to, Having visited both Disneyland and Walt Disney World, if someone has visited neither, I would recommend going to WDW, as there is a lot more to do and experience there. Although everyone should visit Disneyland at some point to, so they can "walk where Walt walked."
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Alabama Splash Adventure is owned by Dan Koch and Pat Koch. Dan is the brother of the late Will Koch, and Pat is their mom. There was a dispute over how much shares were worth of Holiday World several years back (in 2013, see the article link below) (from what I gathered, it got fairly nasty, and the courts were involved) between Dan and Lori Koch, Will`s wife. The end result was that Dan and Pat left Holiday World. I don`t know if they still maintain any ownership in Holiday World, or if it is now owned by Lori and their three kids (Lauren, Leah and Will). Shortly thereafter, Dan and Pat purchased Alabama Splash Adventure.
https://duboiscountyherald.com/b/family-feud-rattles-holiday-world
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https://kicentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Episode-10-2020-Year-in-Review-Part-1.mp3
Don`t forget that you can get this podcast on iTunes, and on Spotify! Be sure to subscripe to not miss an episode!
Show notes: Join Robbie (CoastersRZ) and Brad (IndyGuy4KI) as they are joined by Tom Pavlik (Tjpavlik).
In this episode we begin to review the 2020 season at Kings Island, and the impacts that Covid had on the season and park operations.
We hope you enjoy this episode! Watch for part 2 of the 2020 Season in review, Episode 11 to come out soon! We also will have episode 12 out soon as well, focusing on a fascinating topic. As always, if you have any ideas for future episodes, please let me know!
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I agree that the kids area could use a refresher and a couple new rides. The Camp Snoopy area at Carowinds has a very nice feel to it. Cedar Fair has done a decent job upgrading the look and feel of Coney Mall, Riveertown, and International Street. Planet Snoopy hasn`t really received any tlc or aesthetic updates to the entire land since really 2006 (prior to the Peanuts gang moving in). Yes, we saw the addition of two new kiddy rides in 2015, but the area could use something added to it. There just seems to be a lot of open, unused space in kiddy land right now.
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Wow, that thing packs a lot of speed into the final brakes!
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Well, with the fall event, the park was selling the tasting cards for the specialty food, which was enticing pass holders who may have the dining plan, to fork over additional money that they otherwise would not have spent. If Kings Island did something similar, I could see it making money even with limited rides.
They are likely using the different names to differentiate these events from the normal Winterfest, so that guests know not to expect an event similar to previous years.
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And to be clear, the owner of GCI stated that it would be going on Predator. I at first thought that the 'owner' was the owner of the park, not GCI, until I read the article.
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Hmm. That is interesting.
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No real surprise on the minimal capital expenditures for 2021. Still kind of surprised they aren`t trying Taste of the Season at Kings Island.
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Sad to see the Kangaroo and Bayern Kurve leave that park. My wife and I had so much fun on the Kangaroo when we visited. Also, I thoroughly enjoy the Bayern Kurve. I wonder if these will be replaced in the next few seasons with something new. I am sure parts availability/maintenance costs played a big factor in these rides being removed.
Coronavirus Impacting Theme Parks
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I am eager to be vaccinated. Just have to wait until I am able to get one. I am a 36 year old and do not work in the healthcare field. I might be waiting a while. My sister in law already was vaccinated, my sister who is a RN is going to be vaccinated this week.
Hopefully supply increases, and people trust the vaccine. I know of several people that will not get the vaccine because they do not trust it.