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  1. 1 hour ago, King Ding Dong said:

    I suppose the same could be said for the roads and highways.   We all had to pass a written test, driving test and vision test; we know the rules. All the turn lanes are marked, stop lights working, speed limit signs everywhere. They did what they could, no need for moving violation enforcement, it’s up to us as humans to do what is right.  

    That is a fantastic point! And honestly, the park has security. I'm not sure if they have ENOUGH security to police this matter, but they do have security. 

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  2. 23 minutes ago, chibul said:

    But I mean ultimately...if they're not going to enforce rules as simple as social distancing in queues? They probably shouldn't be open, unfortunately.

    I do agree with this, up to the point where, people are highly autonomous. As far as I'm concerned, the park appears to have made strides to do what they can do. They've marked safe distance, they've asked folks to follow the rules, they have signs up all over the park requesting you to remain socially distant. They did what they could. From there on out, it's about people doing what they need to do. You aren't wrong in that the park does have some onus to do what needs to be done, but in my opinion, they did it. They set up markers, they put up signs, they made it known that this is what is expected. From there, it's up to us as humans to do what is right. 

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  3. 11 minutes ago, chibul said:

    See, I can't agree with that. If parks aren't doing their part to enforce social distancing (which is even more important than masks), people need to know about that. 

     I get both ends of this argument, but we are all intelligent enough to know by now how the general population of our country is behaving in regards to the pandemic. You and I both know that some will abide by the guidelines, some wont. What ends up happening when you start going all "Karen" on social media is that it draws the attention of the folks that have the authority to say "shut it back down, they aren't following the rules."

  4. Just now, robintodd said:

    My wife heard a tip to put a napkin between the mask and the bridge of your nose.  That way the napkin will soak up the moisture and your glasses won't fog.

    That sounds like another interesting tip!! I frankly have more than enough trouble with just the neck gaiter. I have some pretty severe anxiety inducing claustrophobia, so just wearing the mask is enough, adding more layers may make it worse. 

     

    If I may too.... I'm off on another point right now, I saw over the weekend that there were some folks posting pics from other parks that have opened already complaining because social distancing was not being followed. Look guys, I know that the new thing is putting people and places on blast for not adhering to guidelines... but please just don't. We are finally reaching a point where the parks can open. We are finally reaching a time where we are being able to have a little fun, don't get the parks shut back down after their first weekend by sharing these pictures online and drawing attention to the fact. 

  5. 13 minutes ago, IceePirate said:

    Hey, from your earlier post, I would like to wear a neck gaiter or even surgical mask, but the park made their blue masks as apart of our uniform. They're kinda terrible cloth masks tbh, and we can't bring our own

    That's not ideal for sure, but I suppose it could be worse... somehow it could be worse. 

  6. 1 minute ago, SnakePlissken said:

    I still dont see how they expect you to eat popcorn and drink soda with a mask on. I can understand requiring masks in the lobby but in your seat watching the movie is absurd. 

    I think it will end up being detrimental to their bottom line for sure. They make absurd profit on the snacks and drinks at the movie theater, but I'm certain there are going to be provisions for removal of the masks for drinking and eating. 

  7. 19 minutes ago, PatchesC said:

    I'm an hour south in Seymour, perfect spot to hit multiple amusement parks at least. People here are barely wearing masks and are more worried about "protests" and rumors of "thousands" of people lately. (Small town paranoia)

    Trust me, it's not a lot better up here in big city paranoia land. It's easy to get sucked into the anger and ridiculousness. 

    BTW, thanks for the pointer on the glasses fog spray!! I need to get some of that, because more often than not, I climb without my glasses on, and that's not super easy to do blind!! 

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  8. 6 minutes ago, PatchesC said:

    Here's a few thoughts on this. KI will have a full week of Passholder previews, so they may be able to correlate what percentage the have already spent the money to come are willing to go under the current requirements.

    The fact that Cedar Fair follows many IAAPA recommendations for safety and operations already, the mask requirement isn't that surprising because it was strongly recommended from them. 

    The fact is Ohio required masks for a few specific sectors: salon customers, nursing home visitors, ect. It makes me question if it's a CF decision, or a government decision but either way doesn't matter at this point to me. 

     I would put my opinion at about 85% that it was Cedar Fair that decided it. I think you're from Indy too, but can't recall.... Here in Indy AMC theaters announced they would be opening, but wouldn't be requiring masks. There was an uproar over it, so they reversed the decision within hours of announcing it, there was an uproar from the other crowd. You can't make a good decision right now, so the best decision is always to err on the side of caution. That's what I think happened with Cedar Fair. "We will lose going left, we will lose going right, so lets veer towards the safest thing we can do, and face the backlash from those that aren't interested in the safe bet" 

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  9. 2 hours ago, Blackie said:

    Without those designated smoking areas people are going to smoke all around the park.  It already happens outside of designated areas as it is.  I highly doubt this rule will enforced effectively.  Forcing people to leave not only the park, but the entire security check point is silly.  And it will only lead to more people breaking that rule. Non smokers and their children may now be subjected to even more 2nd hand smoke than before, assuming they didn't enter or get very close to those smoking areas to begin with.  Most of the smoking areas at KI have been poorly placed.  Adding a few smoking sections away from high traffic areas throughout the park would be a lot better than this, for everyone.

    I tend to agree with this. I don't think that people will adhere to the new smoking rules, and likely will get belligerent over being told to stop. I'm one of those that could go through my entire life with zero conflict and be a happy human, so I'm not usually one to try to direct people to do anything. Not my circus, not my monkeys. I know I'm not the norm when it comes to such things, so I can see this turning real sour real fast.... 

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  10. I read back a couple pages and got caught back up. For the folks awaiting their start dates to work at the park, I genuinely feel bad for you guys. As I've mentioned a few times in this thread, I've been working like nothing happened for the whole pandemic. We slowed way down for a while, and that felt safer to me, because we weren't packing the dealership full of people day in and day out. In the past 2 weeks, we've gone right back to normal daily numbers, and it's been a little less comfortable to have so many people making their way through here. That part alone is stressful. Add to that, people are indeed becoming meaner to their fellow man, and you actually have an even worse situation. I've been yelled at and cussed at because we are trying to structure our schedule around not having 10 people standing around in our tiny office at the same time, and it's been nothing but a fight. The whole "what do you mean I can't do what I want when I want" mentality is tiring. I can only hope for your sake that being in a fun environment will shape the attitudes a little bit. A little advice: keep your cool, don't let them get to you. Their ridiculousness isn't your battle. 

    I'm still not exactly super happy about the idea of all of the signage everywhere about social distancing, much as some have stated about the virtue signaling, if I hear "social distancing" much more, I'm going to lose my mind. As far as the masks go, I've seen numerous posts on the Facebooks that says they are allowing people to wear neck gaiters. If that's the case, then go grab you one of those. That's what I wear at the climbing gym, and I can tell you 100%, that of the masks, it's the easiest, lightest, and stays put FAR better than much else of what I've tried. As an added bonus, if you get the bottom of it wet where it rests on your neck, it helps keep you cool. I got mine at REI for about 20 bucks. I highly recommend that route. I'm considering leaning towards at least 1 visit to KI this summer now that I've actually done strenuous exercise wearing it. It's not bad, other than it fogs my glasses all to hell. As to my first point however, I'm going to need to see a shift in humans prior to making my solid decision. I don't want to be in a park with angry evil people. That's something I have no desire to be involved with. 

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  11. 59 minutes ago, King Ding Dong said:

    @BeeastFarmer Question on touching the mask.  In reality masks are going to get touched, they slip down/up whatever, they need to be removed/moved for each sip of beverage, you get that really bad nose itch, etc.  So in the real world (outside a clinical situation) what is one to do?  Logically the way I see it is you need to consider your hands at that point contaminated and wash them or at minimum use sanitizer.  Would this be correct, in the setting of a park, or should one do something different?  

    If you are wearing an ear strap mask, remove the strap from one ear, hang the mask from the other ear, scratch your nose, sip your drink, etc. As far as adjusting the mask, well, you're not wrong, you have to move it from time to time, so if you have to touch the front of your mask, wash or sanitize your hands after. If at all possible, first make attempts at adjustments by using the ear straps, because that's the safest place to grab at your mask as far as transmission goes. 

    If you're not wearing the surgical or cloth kind, and are wearing a neck gaiter (which is my go to, because of ease of use, and overall stability), it's a lot easier to adjust, or drop and raise the mask by touching no where near the nose/ mouth area of the mask. 

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  12. 6 minutes ago, MoreFogPlease said:

    Glad we agree.

    People can post social media pictures of themselves wearing masks to encourage others to do it too, because it promotes public safety, not just because it's the trendy thing to do.

     Still picking the points you want to respond to I see. 

  13. 1 hour ago, MoreFogPlease said:

    I don't think anybody is wearing a mask only as a virtue signaling device. People who are wearing masks are doing so either to keep themselves safe, or because they are required to. Maybe for some people it acts as a virtue signal, but why does it function as a virtue signal? Because it helps keep people safe. I don't think anyone is wearing masks because they want to promote safety, if they don't actually think that masks help keep people safe.

     

    1 hour ago, King Ding Dong said:

    This is one of the most ridiculous takes I have seen on this thread.  

    Not knowing how to wear a mask properly is a function of poor messaging and example setting from our leaders, hardly virtue signaling. I would also fault video media for not running more demonstrations on proper construction and use although print and digital have run many good articles.

    Nobody likes wearing a mask, it isn’t fun.  

     

    1 hour ago, chibul said:

    What an absurd take. It's not about "virtue signaling", it's about complying with the recommendations from the CDC, the WHO, and literally every infectious disease expert. 

    Good lord. 

     I enjoy that not one of you approached the point that I made. When you feel it necessary to have your facebook profile picture be you in a mask, you are doing it for credit. It's the social media craze. Do what everyone else does. Wear what everyone else wears. Buy what everyone else buys. It's all about an image. When you go out in public, wear your mask. You don't need every other post on your social media to be about people that don't. You don't need to put pictures of yourself all over the internet wearing your mask. Just wear the thing. When you see someone not wearing one, walk past them, say nothing, go on about your life. The one thing that the pandemic has done, is that it's turned people against each other. People feel like its on them to force other people to do that right thing. Ya know, virtue signaling. But yeah, my opinion is ridiculous, and absurd. 

  14. 13 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:

    Sorry/not sorry for the double post, but I wanted to nit pick some mask issues I saw just a moment ago.

    I saw an Instagram story from Ohio Valley Coaster, which I think does a great job.  Today's person on camera though, would have been much better off not wearing a mask at all.

    His mask was made of cloth, and was very loose.  you could see it is not tight behind his ear.  Therefore, he was constantly moving the mask above his nose when it fell down.  Great for being conscientious!  However, if he was an asymptomatic carrier, the virus would be excreted in to the fibers of his mask through his mouth and nose.  Constantly touching the mask, then touching surfaces, it transfers the virus to them.  The next person who touches that surface picks up the virus, and then touches their nose and boom...possible transmission.

    Wearing a mask is great, but wearing it properly is more important.

     For most, the mask is a virtue signaling device. Some are actually wearing it to keep themselves safe. I've seen so many with a mask that is an inch from their face on the sides because it doesn't fit them properly. I've seen many with it on, but tucked under their nose or chin..... I've seen an increase in facebook profile pics that are mask selfies, which shows me that it's an image thing to most. The desire to fit in. 

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  15. On 6/15/2020 at 11:12 AM, Shaggy said:

    These pics are incredible.  Apparently his father took them.  His Dad is to be commended on his foresight and ability to visually document things that simply did not get photographed.

    They are among the absolute best amateur KI pictures I've ever seen.  And they absolutely capture the "vibe" the park had in those years. 

    It's kind of interesting to look back at pictures that were captured in the days of film. People had to take the time to actually take a quality photo. Also photos used to be taken to capture memories of great times. They were few and far between because you only had so many exposures on your film roll. Now, photos are taken to be put on instagram. You take 50 shots of the same thing so you can keep the best one, and most of them aren't of anything but the person taking the picture, and the best looking background that proves to 500 people you don't actually know that you were on a beach in some expensive destination. 

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  16. 5 hours ago, Driver8rws said:

     

    What the hell?  Spacing the people in lines 6ft apart doesn't do any good if there are people going the other way in the line RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!?   What a ridiculous thing to even show in the video!    I would have bet my life they'd only be using EVERY OTHER lane and skipping the ones right next to each other...    

    Such a "false sense" of doing the right thing.  Just like the temperature checks are.  They don't do any good unless you've been infected for 2-3 weeks and showing symptoms.

    I've learned a new phrase during this pandemic... it's "virtue signaling". Much of what's being done right now is exactly that. "Look, we care, can't you tell we care by all of these things we do? You can really tell we care!! Please notice that we care!!!" 

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  17. 31 minutes ago, King Ding Dong said:

    Good thing coasters and amusement parks in general have nothing to do with technology as well.  :P

     I think you may be better at this than me!! I may have to give in.... but I sure miss the days of skid brakes. (The only coaster I ever rode with skid brakes was the Starliner at Miracle Strip in Panama City Beach) 

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  18. 46 minutes ago, King Ding Dong said:

    And yet you are here.   Curious.  :lol:

     Oh.... I saw the irony in my post, I really did..... there are just some days where I want to be LESS connected. I feel like the more connected we've become by our technology, the less connected we actually are as humans... but this is a theme park forum, and we aren't really into philosophical discussions like that round these parts.  

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  19. 24 minutes ago, IndyGuy4KI said:

    No one in your house has a cell phone? :ph34r:

    I'm impressed if that's true!! I'm not going to tell a full on lie... I want to get rid of it. I want to ditch technology as a whole. There's probably someone that lives off the grid somewhere that doesn't know that COVID is a thing, and hasn't seen the societal unrest that our country is in. They don't even know. I would like to not know. 

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  20. 21 minutes ago, PilotDude said:

    Nope, looks like lines on the ground in the queue. But from the Worlds of Fun video it doesn't look very effective. They are good in front and behind you, but forget that you also need to worried with left and right as well.

    Screenshot 2020-06-09 at 4.24.04 PM.png

    Guys, come on, everyone knows that it only moves fore and aft. Left and right are completely outside of the natural movement of a virus. It'll be fiiiiinnnneee. 

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  21. 1 minute ago, robintodd said:

    At least you know the reason people call you a jerk, I'm still trying to figure out why the call me one :):)  Anyway I don't think you a jerk for not wearing a mask and not going to the park.  However those that go to the park and refuse to wear a mask.........

    Hope the requirement is lifted soon and you can go, and hope to see you at the park.  Stay safe....

      I'm the jerk in that situation because I believe that safety should be the responsibility of the person that needs to be safe. I get that people are all aboard the "for your safety" train this year, and that's fine. I'm just one of those people that lives my life under the thought train that you can spend much effort on remaining "safe", doing nothing dangerous, always being mindful of everything that could be harmful, and get t-boned by a semi truck on your way home from work. I don't need someone to tell me stuff is dangerous, I know it is. I ride mountain bikes, I rock climb. These are the sports I've chosen to have fun. Mountain biking is controlled enough, that deaths don't happen as often as they could, but if you google "rock climbing death" you'll see that my longevity is not guaranteed. 

     As far as me going to the park this summer, I may sit this one out. I'm a bit perturbed by the way humans are treating each other right now. 

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