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36 minutes ago, IBEW_Sparky said:
I would have for sure taken at least one day off this week to come down if the park were still open. I personally think its a$$, I dont want to hear "But the kids are back in school so we cant staff the park". B.S. put Mr. Selfie on a ride and all the other gold tags and keep it open daily until Labor Day.
But here's the thing, you also need people to staff food/drink stands as well as other areas. KI is more than just the rides. Also don't forget those who work need a break every 6 hours (5 hours if you're a minor). While yes you can technically staff some rides at like 5 people, that's at bare minimum and they need more to be able to send breaks and rotate positions. Also the gold tags/area supervisors need to be available as much as possible in the event things happen (like if a safety issue were to happen and the operators involved were to need to be disciplined for it, there needs to be extra staff available to come and take the involved operators' spots so that the ride can continue to operate while the involved operator(s) get disciplined/retrained).
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Since no thread has been created yet, I decided to make a thread specifically for construction updates on Camp Snoopy. As the summer season starts to come to a close and Haunt and Winterfest quickly approaches, we will likely start seeing construction start soon. As we follow construction, I just want to remind everyone of a few ground rules from past construction update threads:
* No trespassing. I know this may seem like a common sense rule, but those who have been around on here for awhile may remember that during the construction of Banshee someone snuck into the construction area to get photos. Suffice it to say that the park was not happy, do not do it again!
* Along those same lines, make sure any photos taken are from appropriate areas. Absolutely no taking photos from rides unless it is from the Eiffel Tower.
* If you share a photo that isn't yours, you must provide the source where it came from.
* Make sure that conversations are done in a polite manner. Every once in a while we'll see some debates that get out of hand. Please let's try to not have that this time.
* During construction/decoding seasons KIC gets a lot of new visitors posting on here so it is important that everyone knows the terms of service. You can find the terms of service here: https://KICentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4128-terms-of-service/
* The final rule is have fun. Construction season is always an exciting time here on KIC.
Here's to another season of construction as we see the construction of Snoopy's Soap Box Racers family boomerang coaster and the refreshed Camp Snoopy!
Let's start with photos of I took of the area pre construction that we can compare to the finished product as a before and after when it is done!
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If I were to pick a Vekoma model for KI, I would go with the bermuda blitz model in the style of Lech Coaster at Legendia. I have heard nothing but good things about Lech Coaster and people who have been on it have raved about how intense it is. I think if KI got a ride in the style of Lech coaster it would become that new shining star attraction to enthusiasts. Here's a POV of Lech Coaster:
Another good option is the double launch shockwave model in the style of Abyssus at Energylandia. Now if KI were to go with any Vekoma looping coaster launched or not, I really would love to see them pay homage to Vortex and do a batwing element like what Abyssus has in the same spot as Vortex's batwing.
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While it would be cool, it would probably cost more than several of our coasters combined to do this. Also they would need to probably have to build an incline bridge for the train to go up and down for it to be able to have an elevated station over the entrance. While it would be cool, I doubt it would be worth the ROI. Our entrance is good the way it is, I just wish they would find a way to make the facade facing the parking lot look better and get rid of the ugly banners. You can advertise the new additions in other ways.
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20 minutes ago, brenthodge said:
Anyone know anything about this down in Charlotte? Haunt Parade??
I believe Cedar Point used to do a Halloween parade before the pandemic. I wouldn't mind seeing one for Tricks and Treats Fall Fest. Would be a good way to use the Parade route between Carnivale and Winterfest.
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I know this likely won't happen due to obvious reasons, but I made a little concept that could connect the park with the tennis stadium using a gondola/skylift system. This would allow easy access for people attending the tournament (assuming it stays here) to the park without dealing with the crazy traffic. Also with this concept, the stadium could be used for concerts and other events which is why I have the KI station replacing Timberwolf. This would also come with a second entrance/exit to the park to the skylift station area.
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39 minutes ago, DoomPlague said:
Went today and while it wasn't packed like people said Tuesday was, it was definitely more crowded than I expect on these 8 PM, mid-week days. Lots of family groups. Honestly, maybe I'm wrong but it seemed like an awful lot of the people were either new to the park or haven't been in years. Lots of people unaware of normal procedures (not that there's anything wrong with that) or you could tell it was their first time on a particular ride.
Also noticed the cuts to some of the ride staffs that has been discussed. Mystic was running with 2 restraint checkers. Orion and DB had 3 early but were back to the normal 4 in the evening. Either way, there wasn't a lot of stacking to be honest. They were still pretty efficient. AE was back to 2 trains. Banshee ran the first half of the day and then closed. No other coasters were closed that I noticed.
Lastly, the pork loin at Coney BBQ was pretty good.
I was there as a guest from like 4-8 and lines were npt very long at all. In fact from like 6-8 almost everything was pretty much walk on.
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In as a guest right now. Got these pics of the area and no work has begun yet. Kinda interested on when work will begin especially if they are shooting for April 2024.
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Honestly I have a feeling we may see a few existing rides get rethemed to Camp Snoopy other than Flying Ace. My prediction is we'll see Linus Launcher, Flume, Woodstock Gliders, Kite Eating Tree, Space Buggies, Beetle Bugs, Junction, and Road Rally all become part of Camp Snoopy. Here's a little map I drew on where I think the border between Planet Snoopy and Camp Snoopy will be:
Kite Eating Tree, Junction, Road Rally, and Beetle Bugs all fit Camp Snoopy pretty easily. You can pretty easily retheme Linus Launcher, Gliders, and Space Buggies to match with Camp Snoopy.
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25 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said:
Interesting that this display was placed here as this is not a part of the area that I thought would be a part of Camp Snoopy.
The park has clarified in a reply to this tweet that Camp Snoopy will be an area within Planet Snoopy.
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Probably one of the few instances with KI where my jaw hit the floor and I needed to find it lol. Definitely was not expecting anything like this to happen in 2024 especially with TT2. My main question is will this reset our coaster clock another few years? Like instead of 2025 being the next big thrill coaster will it now be 2026/27? Who knows. I'm also interested in will it be like Snoopy's Racing Railway where adults have to have a kid to ride? I hope not as Flying Ace and Woodstock Express do just fine without any such requirement and I don't think any other family boomerangs have such requirement. Definitely looking forward to this addition as this back area of Snoopy needed a facelift badly.
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22 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said:
It still shows 8 on the website:
Oops I thought you were talking about this Friday. I should've read your post a little bit better lol. Yes, 8 pm closes start next week.
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31 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said:
Since when does the park close at 8 on Friday? It’s the start of the weekend.
Probably a typo on the app as the calendar on the website says 10 pm close. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/calendar-and-hours
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4 minutes ago, Tr0y said:
This area:
Interesting. Wonder if we see the removal of Zoom Flume since it is an older slide and would open up space for a pretty large slide. Maybe that water coaster we all want?
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On 8/3/2023 at 3:31 PM, Tr0y said:
Marker in Soak City, Water Beast confirmed! #Whatsinthewater
Where exactly in Soak City is this marker located? Is it anywhere near the old Pipeline area? I haven't been to Soak City in 6 years so I have no idea where this could be lol.
29 minutes ago, WoodVengeance said:How likely would it be if Kings Island did Soak City and Planet Snoopy the same year? There's been markers found in both areas.
Canada's Wonderland did it for 2020 (2021) where they added a small kids ride in their kids area and the mountain bay cliff jumping thing in their water park in the same year.
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27 minutes ago, disco2000 said:
You hit the enthusiast overboard stage during the Orion announcement season
Yes I did lol and it'll never happen again.
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I wasn't the enthusiast I am now back then and was living 2 hours away at the time. In fact I don't remember KI building anything until my parents showed me the video and then I got hooked. I do remember being so hyped about it and my church youth group took a trip for Spirit Song that upcoming summer and I remember my first ride on Banshee being in the front row with the youth minister, his daughter, and this other guy. It was a moment I'll never forget. My first announcement experience was the Orion announcement and I really loved that experience. Sadly I think In Person announcements like that are a thing of the past with social media being the big thing nowadays so they don't really need to go through all the time and money to plan a big in person reveal when they can just share it all over social media which almost everyone has nowadays.
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What if Cedar Fair decided to keep Nickelodeon instead of changing them all to Snoopy. Would we have seen parks like Cedar Point get Nickelodeon areas? Would we have seen parks host Nickelodeon events (for example Slimefest)?
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If 2024 is a Snoopy addition I don't see a coaster as you already have Top Thrill 2 and the Dorney project. Plus CF historically hasn't added a new coaster in both parks in the same year for good reason. If 2024 is a Snoopy addition I predict the main big addition would be an indoor dining facility with kids entertainment that's been brought up before along with a couple family/kid flat rides by Zamperla. In terms of what rides, I think a samba balloon would be the best fit as other CF parks have them in their Snoopy areas. Zamperla also offers this Magic Bike Ride that looks like a lot of fun. I'll link it here: https://www.zamperla.com/products/magic-bikes-2/
Now whether or not Planet Snoopy would get a full retheme to Camp Snoopy I'm mixed on. As much as I would be 100% all for the full retheme and it would make the area so much nicer and help transition to Rivertown better, I don't know if they would do the full retheme since they would probably have to remove a few rides and they did just do some repainting in the area. But again they did originally repaint Sling Shot in the 2021-2022 offseason only for it to be removed, so we never really know.
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Feels like we're going back to the old days of announcements where they just put the announcement out there for the media. Remember the original Dragster was announced on a local news station I believe. Maverick was just an announcement on the website I believe. Unfortunately I feel as if the days of in person announcements are over. That makes me sad though as the Orion announcement was an awesome atmosphere. However, those types of events take lots of planning and with social media being the big thing nowadays it's easier to just do one online instead of taking all the time and money to plan a large in person event.
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13 minutes ago, brenthodge said:
As to his expectations and ideas… he confirmed that last years lineup for Timberwolf was not what had been envisioned. He said they were “that close” to signing a few acts that -he wouldn’t name names as “it doesn’t even matter now” - would’ve really surprised people and set a new bar. He said it was not the plan to be “playing to 300 people in a 900 seat venue” as actually happened a couple of shows. LOL. I’m telling you, he just kept rambling. I was hoping to catch a phantom theatre nugget, but no dice.
Wonder what caused the contracts to fall through? Was it something to do with a contract with an outside promoter (like live nation), a budget thing, or the fact that Timberwolf is just not a nice venue compared to the other venues around the area (ie Riverbend, the Newport Amphitheater, Andrew J Brady, etc)
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One thing I miss from the 2019 Carnivale event along with the individual stages is when they brought in live bands each weekend to share the bandstand stage with Royal Rhythms. Now I think it was probably a little too chaotic and crowded doing that, but here's my solution. I've always said Carnivale would be a perfect time to use Timberwolf. Now I understand that the concert series last year likely wasn't as successful as they thought, but the thing is they had people pay for tickets to see bands (outside of Skillet and 3DD) that was basically not as big as before. The solution I have is do something similar to what Busch Gardens Williamsburg does with their Summer Nights Concert Series where it is based around their Summer Celebration event and the concerts are free with park admission and you just go and get a concert admission wristband in the park on the day of the concert and the wristbands are first come first serve.
https://buschgardens.com/williamsburg/events/summer-nights/concerts/
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On 7/21/2023 at 10:53 PM, KIghostguy said:
I am very happy for Dorney Park. I went twice last year, and while I enjoyed my time there, it definitely looks and feels as though Dick Kinzel had just stepped out on lunch break. A new coaster will be a nice breath of new life into the park. It is incredible to me that this is their first custom-layout coaster since George W. Bush was President!
Also crazy to think that babies who were born the last time Dorney Park opened a brand new (not relocated) coaster graduated High School this past May! My sister is one of them lol.
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19 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said:
Just saw this posted around 7pm. Wouldn't you think this would be a bigger deal and would include news stations coming in for coverage? Would do wonders for the organization!
Local News did do coverage on this event:
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If they really want my interest when it comes to events/advertising...partner with ASA entertainment again and bring this event back to the park! Anyone remember this? Also was one of the few times outside of Spirit Song Cedar Fair used Timberwolf.