CheetahDrew
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3 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
Isn't your birth date attached to your season pass? If so, they can see that they are under a certain age and not let them in if they don't have an adult with them.
Problem I see with this though is, what prevents an adult coming in with them, dropping them off and then leaving. I can’t really see how anyone can prevent that.
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So on the note of this chaperoning thing, should that be the route the park decides to take, how would they even enforce this? Seeing as though they are understaffed literally everywhere and are contracting out security right now? Any thoughts on how they might do this?
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While I understand the frustration of everyone involved and maybe I am reading it the wrong way from some of us here discussing. I don't think blaming the park is the right way to go about this, they hold some responsibility obviously. However, they can only be so proactive with what they have available to them, beyond that it is how they react to that which we will see.
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I think one thing is pretty clear here and this is more in response to some of the things I’ve seen elsewhere rather than here really but still Important.
this situation got out of control so quickly it isn’t fair to blame the employees for this, does Kings Island have some responsibility yes, however a lot of these kids it was their first or second weekend at the park working.
security is understaffed and it’s important to understand that a lot of them are new. The employees always ask for your patience the weekends up to full time season for that reason.
my point being not that I think anyone here is, but that it isn’t as simple as blaming the employees for what occurred, I actually think they did brilliantly given the unfortunate circumstances.
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Thank you for posting this, I worked alongside Guil in Security it is a very saddening loss for our department.
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10 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
Yes and also please be respectful to the associates who are going to be under pressure! Also this is not the time to be making fun of operations. Thank you.
Yes, I will mention especially coming through the Health Screening, We did our training today. It will be different the first few weeks we will most definitely need peoples patience, we want you in the park, but please make sure to be patient with us as im sure all of you here will be.
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39 minutes ago, chibul said:
Why is there even a hearing now? Isn't it a moot point?
According to an article I read they want to open up immediately or at least have the permission to do so. An attorney for Cedar Fair stated that they’d have to see if two weeks was sufficient.
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35 minutes ago, Snowball said:
Looking at the webcams, I’m not seeing much activity at all in the park today. Must be a day off for lots of people. I figured there would be quite a bit of activity given that they’ve been given permission to reopen.
Depending on what happens tomorrow with the hearing scheduled. I’d bet we see a lot more from the park after that.
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33 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
As an employee, I'm worried about enforcing those rules. Especially with how some people can be when told to follow rules. Tbh idk if I see the mask requirement lasting more than this season. I could actually see it not be too bad for the first few weeks of opening, but once we get later in the season, people may start getting tired of the mask policy and start taking them off anyway.
Agreed being Security in the park I am likely to be on high alert I have to be careful about what I can and cannot say in an public forum, however I do know that people who do not follow the rules will be dealt with. I am worried about people getting aggressive over the mask thing, because It is a divided subject hopefully like you say it isn’t horrible but I am worried that information won’t be spread and people will be ill informed and then we have to clean up the mess left behind.
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42 minutes ago, PilotDude said:
During the press conference Dewine said he told the business in this "other" category he would make the announcement in a week and that was a week ago meaning he planned to announce this today all along and the suit was nothing but an insult.
He can say whatever he wants that doesn’t mean it is necessarily true, if that were the case I don’t believe they would have filed suit.
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Oh it is finally over, Thank God, I truly believe that he would not have made this announcement today if they had not filed that lawsuit.
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This should be interesting...
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34 minutes ago, disco2000 said:
I am not finding anywhere proof of a press conference for today? Not even fox8news cited in this indicates anything on Twitter or their website? Not even the official Ohio Channel:
Just heard on my Local News Station that there is indeed a press conference.
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Hoping for good news?
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24 minutes ago, PilotDude said:
"the ruling affirms that facilities must follow Ohio Department of Health safety protocols to keep patrons and all Ohioans safe and healthy. These facilities were due to open Tuesday anyways. However, our office disagrees with the ruling’s analysis of law.”
All Dewine would have to do is say we well the rules say no more then X people in a given area, and neither park has provided a plan on how to comply with that. A great example of this is the fact Cedar Fair plans to use traditional que lines, the state would be able to argue that mass groups of people put into a small space can't be done in complacence with the rules. That is also a single case in the state where multiple other cases have been ruled against the business case in point, Gilded Social v. Amy Acton where a bridal shop was ruled against. When we consider case law we can not look sideways but must look upwards, what did the appellate court rule, what about the supreme court what have they said?
I want the park to open just as much as everyone else, and do believe it can be done safe as is evident with other parks like Disney Shanghai opening. But this route was a poor choice for the park as the general thought is the parks were due to be announced in the next few days, most suspecting Friday the 5th anyways. I do not blame the park for this lawsuit either, they are under incredible pressure from the Warren County Commissioners that has been asking them to sue since the March. The park is currently a pawn in a political game, a very unenviable position to be in.
"Chief U.S. District Judge Algenon L. Marbley said that Gilded Social: The Fancy Occasion shop had not been singled out by not being offered a way to contest being ruled nonessential immediately. Marbley said the state has a legitimate justification for its business restrictions." -
You are correct in the fact that the ruling in Gilded Social v. Amy Acton was not successful however, this was from months ago when the situation was not the same as it is today and virtually everything was shut down hence the reasoning for the Chief Judges comments stating they had "not been singled out". In this particular case however, we see many things if not just about everything but Amusement Parks and Casinos re opening, the Legal Precedent being established here and what is cited in the lawsuit is Rock House Fitness v. Acton, which was successful with Judge Eugene Lucci stating Dr Amy Acton acted "in an impermissibly arbitrary, unreasonable, and oppressive manner and without any procedural safeguards.” The Issue for the court now that Legal Precedent has been found is determining whether that also applies to this case, which I and many others believe it does. because in this situation they are being excluded unlike what Chief Judge Marbley was stating.
As to your comment in reference to traditional queue lines, I read the filing with Warren County Common Pleas Court and there is no mention of traditional queues being an issue, perhaps you found this information from somewhere else or are assuming that this is the case but I have not heard of this from anywhere. As far as it being a good move, I believe it was a very good move on the part of the park because they have legal rights just as everyone else does and this will likely be decided or settled very quickly.-
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Interesting that it isn’t just Kings Island and that that legal advocacy group is getting involved the likelihood is that this will be expedited through our legal system or their will be a settlement with the state.
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6 minutes ago, PatchesC said:
I'm to the point of using MANY words I usually don't on social media. It's beyond ridiculous, at this point it's turning to anger.
Yeah amen to that sentiment. The thing is, there is nothing I can think of that is not allowed at some point to reopen now, so the parks are going to get a lot more attention as to why they are still closed I would have to think.
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This is beyond ridiculous, I have no clue what dewines problems is but this is just absolutely ridiculous.
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11 minutes ago, Nick_Plummer said:
Immediately sounds amazing, but many employees (myself included) have only completed a small part if not none of their training. I hope people don't take the "immediately" too literally.
Agreed, I am one of the trainers for my area and this is definitely going to put us in a situation where we have to be fast about training people.
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5 minutes ago, RedSummit20 said:
Its not going to happen
I wasn’t referring to the press conference I was referring to the press release he mentions in that tweet I was wondering if anyone knew what time it’d be published.
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Anyone know when this press release is supposed to be made today? I’m assuming still around 2:00pm?
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43 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
I thought they said they refused to furlough their staff.
They did, I recall seeing in I think their earnings report that they wanted to be in “a state of readiness” to reopen when local governments allowed them to do so.
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Drove past the Island today, saw a lot of work being done around the security entrance looked like possibly some new signage and some stuff.
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44 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
Boy it sure is quiet in here today. I was thinking we'd be having a big discussion on Dr Action's order that was extended keeping KI closed until July at least.
Ya know I’m not sure it will be closed til July due to the fact that this order was signed Friday to include fairs, but fairs had also been told they would be managed by individuals fair boards and yesterday there was guidance released for that. Really the order is confusing and contradictory to what is being said by Dewine and Husted.
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Incident at Kings Island 5/22/21
in Kings Island
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The park appears to have changed their operating hours until June 10th to 8pm closes.