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10 minutes ago, arrold said:
X Base never really felt like a cohesive area with its two coasters and nothing else. I don't think the giga will make it much different; at least one awesome flat ride and maybe a food option would round it out. And people joke about bathrooms but even that would help it feel like a distinct area of the park. I hope the giga is the start of this kind of expansion!
I think long term, Firehawks queue line will be used for a new flat ride either behind the train storage for the new ride or in the cutout where the turn around into Firehawk’s station was. What kind of flat ride would you like to see? When it comes to flats, other parks seem to be going with drop rides or giant swing rides but KI obviously has those already.
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10 hours ago, SonofBaconator said:
Getting back on topic, I do think it's interesting that the park decided to combine Firehawk and Flight of Fear's que line. However, something bugs me. Every time I've been to the park, only half of the FoF que has ever been open; the part to the right of the UFO. Does the park still utilize the left hand side of the que?
Opening up all the queues at FOF and Firehawk created problems at both rides. “Things” tend to happen when you have that many people in a tight space with slow moving lines. Same reason that the middle queue at Firehawk was frequently closed. I still think it’s overkill but it will help with those issues, especially during Haunt.
11 hours ago, fryoj said:It looks to me they are taking some lines from the FOF queue to make extra locker space and the PX on ride photo booth.
It does look like one of the switch backs is going to be removed from the outside queue at FOF for more lockers.
I remember getting in line for FOF during its opening year (not opening day) somewhere around The Racer entrance. This new queue setup could easily eat that crowd but I don’t see a 25 year old ride pulling that kind of draw anymore. Fast Lane probably slows the line down though. Crowd management is interesting.
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4 hours ago, sixohdieselrage said:
I think we made an OOPS guys... FoF and *Project X* coaster queues will NOT be next to each other. Looks like the old Firehawk photo will be the entry to the *Project X* coaster, and the exit will be right next to FoF's queue.
If someone has pointed this out before, forgive me.
It looks like another switchback is being removed from the outside queue at FOF to expand the locker area. Using the Firehawk queue for FOF? I did not see that coming. It might be overkill but I guess if it's already there, you might as well use it.
I wonder where ride-photo will be for the new ride. Could be the little expansion in the back of the expanded locker area, or the shaded area just outside of the station.
We can rule out the maintenance garage (old helicopter building) and plush barn being removed. It's unlikely that the other maintenance buildings or the X-Base Haunt building are removed. I'm still guessing the construction between Racer and FOF is for a new maze. I don't think it's for Carnival because the Nickelodeon parade floats were stored behind Zephyr and that area is still available.
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6 minutes ago, HandsUp said:
It was really a sitch that could have been remedied with decent training. The crew was working-quick-they just had no good process in place. I'd mentioned it before, but they were making the sandwiches, wrapping and bagging them--then throwing them in a pile for the cashier to open back up-find the right sandwich, and then ring the guest up! Horribly inefficient but totally correctable.
Wow, just wow. Classic example of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing. Was this the Coney Mall or Soak City location? I’ve never eaten at the Coney one but the Soak City line moves pretty quick as long as both lines are open.
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16 minutes ago, HandsUp said:
Does this mean that it will take less than 45 minutes to get a sandwich from Subway? Woo Hoo!
That better be a good sandwich! I’ve had some less than stellar food experiences at KI but nothing like that. You could drive to the Subway on Kings Mills and be back in 30 minutes tops. Something tells me they don’t take the meal plan though.
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My family went to the Brewhouse yesterday and it was a great experience. I was surprised to see that they opted for ordering at a counter instead of tableside but this made for a very efficient operation. It’s essentially the same set-up as McAlisters. The food was fresh and delivered to the table quickly. There was a problem with our meal plan and shout-out to the associates and supervisor for correcting it quickly. We had 2 pub burgers, a big pretzel and the kids chicken tender meal. The burgers did not taste like amusement park burgers (a good thing). My kids are very picky eaters and they loved it. It was nice to be able to sit down and relax to eat while it didn’t take away a big chunk of time. The line to order moved quickly even though it was out the door. The associates also cleared the tables quickly. I watch a lot of Gordon Ramsey shows and it seems they took his advise of keeping the menu simple to showcase what you really do well. This menu would be hard to mess up so I think they have a winner on their hands.
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3 hours ago, Rivertown Rider said:
With the pad between Racer and FOF I don't think it makes sense to start a haunt building this early in the season so this is either maintenance or storage. There is already rebar in the ground so concrete should be poured shortly.
Even if the leaked layout is real it makes sense to open up that area beside FOF because that area is pretty busy now with just one ride and with a headline attraction it could be very congested.
There were stakes in the ground for Slaughterhouse on June 21, 2014. So if this is for Haunt, they're about a month ahead of schedule which wouldn't be a bad thing.
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My guess is a new permanent Haunt maze is being constructed between Racer and FOF. Massacre Manor, Carnevil, and Tombstone Terrortory were all removed without replacements. Since area is so far removed from the midway, there shouldn’t be much of an increase in congestion. With Winterfest being well established now, it would make sense to invest some capital into Haunt this year.
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15 hours ago, MDMC01 said:
I totally forgot about the fact that Diamondback and Son of Beast once coexisted! However, I guess it was different as SoB was wooden and Diamondback is a Steel coaster... oh, well, we shall see what happens!
It’s easy to forget! That was mainly my point.
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8 minutes ago, FoF96" said:
^ For like half a season... what’s different at these other parks with multiple hypers are that they’re from completely different manufacturers. Find me a park with 2 Hyper coasters that are the same model and manufacturer. That’s what would make Kings Islands an odd choice if that were to happen
For the record, I think this coaster will be over 300ft. Cedar Fair took a risk at Canada’s Wonderland. (Rumor has it, Leviathan was slated for Knotts.) The risk obviously paid off since Carowinds repeated the model. Having riden Fury, I have high hopes for this coaster. It will be interesting to see what they do with the second element since MF, Leviathan, and Fury all make a turn after the first drop. This one seems to go straight for a while. It will need something other than an airtime hill to make it feel different than Diamondback.
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16 hours ago, MDMC01 said:
Not to play devil's advocate, but... Skyrush and Hershey's 2020 Coaster will coexisit in the same park (according to RCDB, Skyrush is a hyper at 200 ft.). I'm thinking it'll be a giga, but you never know.
Would you believe that Kings Island once operated 2 hyper coasters at the same time? The second was only 12 feet taller and less than 2 mph faster. The general consensus is that it was 100% better though. So we would all be happy with a ride that’s 242 feet tall and 82 mph, right?
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13 minutes ago, Klabergian Empire said:
From what I saw as far as blueprints, they were only for the lift hill, thus making them partial. But I don't really see a whole lot more information being taken from those prints. One since they have been speculated to death and two there are dozens of possibilities for those blueprints.
But from another perspective, I find it weird that when @Banding Banshee went to Mason Hall that all he got was the same thing as other people: Lift hill footer blueprints. I am starting to lean a bit towards those prints being fake. Look at what happened when someone went to Mason during Mystic Timbers clearing. They were able to get a full on layout of Mystic Timbers. But when someone got the plans for Project X, all they got was a lift hill footers blueprints. It makes very little sense that Kings Island would file partial blueprints."We'll just build the lift hill and call that a ride. We'll put guests in a train, take them up a hill, let them hang there for a moment, and lower them back down. That's our 2020 Giga, folks!"
As a side note, I wonder how @IndyGuy4KI is holding up with this thread exploding faster than an atom bomb.........
B&M (almost) always starts construction with the transfer track, station, and lift. So if KI could try to avoid the layout going public for a little while by filing a partial print, why wouldn’t they? If I remember correctly, there was construction going on all over the layout for MT from the beginning which could explain why they had to file the full print of the layout.
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35 minutes ago, Jallie79 said:
Doing a little digging onto the interwebs and found an image of KMAA on the construction company's website (company that built the ride) sorry I didnt get it to post here, phone went haywire. But seeing that caused a few questions in my head.
1. Could a civil site drawing of KMAA be the source of our "leaked" giga layout. Things looked pretty darn similar. I mean the image only showed back to Racer, but I'm almost certain other images would show everything.
2. Wouldn't that image, if it exists, be available in the Mason City archives.
Not saying my theory is correct. Just trying to look at all aspects. The real plans were approved over a week before they showed up on here. That would be plenty of time to cobble together something believable imo. Just my 2 cents.
That said, can't wait to see what the heck this thing acutally is. Lol
I find it interesting that the leaked layout has so many surfaces highlighted in different colors even on the interior of Action Theater. It highlights where the theater was changed for Urgent Scare and on the side where the seats were later removed for the Dino movie. It highlights where the pavers were added in Coney Mall and where a walkway was added for Field of Screams. It also highlights all of the changes for the presumed queue extension in the Firehawk area.
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1 minute ago, presto123 said:
Anybody nail it? Get real close to it or guess the name?
If I recall correctly, at some point it was said that the drop would be 80 degrees. Everything I can find now says 74 degrees so maybe people were right to question it. I could be totally off on the 80 degrees though and don’t feel like digging back through old threads. I also can’t find anything where KI officially announced the angle.
No one guessed the name, until it was trademarked. Mustang was a highly rumored name thanks to the diversions in the teaser campaign.
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15 minutes ago, presto123 said:
Ah memories.......Just for kicks, I went back and looked at a little of the Mystic Timbers decoding thread.(I was all over that as were so many of you in this thread) Here was one of my predictions:
"Seems like they had the space the make this coaster super long if they wanted to. I would assume they are just wanting to keep their costs down somewhat with a mid size coaster before they go really big again in 2-3 years. Maybe this is short and super intense".
Well.....here we are. A few years later. lol Even though nobody predicted Mystic Timbers name before announcement, I threw out Timber Falls. I'll take half credit:)
In one of the original Diamondback threads, I recall a lengthy debate over the angle of the first drop with people attempting their own calculations. Which was very similar to the current debate over the angle/height of the lift hill. Same stuff, different new ride.
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9 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:
Was there a Junkyard Stunt Coaster decoding thread 15 years ago?
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It wasn’t referred to as decoding back then, but yes there was. We even had the leaked layout!
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14 hours ago, Thane Of Price Hill said:
The teaser campaign for Banshee started on opening day 2013. The teaser campaign for Mystic Timbers began on passholder preview night.
Banshee and MT were announced under a different management team and under different circumstances. Every addition to the park is unique.
Industry trends have also been fluctuating on this. Universal broke the mold when they announced the Wizarding World of Harry Potter 2.5 years before opening. Diagon Alley was announced 1.5 years before opening. Hagrid’s coaster wasn’t officially announced until February of this year and it opens in June. I think they realized that people were deferring their vacations.
My guess is we’ll see a short teaser campaign to hype up an announcement in late summer.
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On 5/9/2019 at 3:06 AM, BoddaH1994 said:
To be fair, no one has ever said that it was a safety hazard. Downtime, maintenance, and the long time viability of the ride were all factors in its removal.
I have friends who worked in maintenance who told me that the ride would skew (arms being out of sincere) because one side was heavier than the other. When talking to others at the park, the consensus seemed to be that the ride was too heavy in general. Removal of part of the gondola was supposed to remedy that, but clearly it didn’t work.
Did anyone on here ride it in 2008? The front row was so intense that it made me black out. The “new” ride program the next year was very disappointing.
When Tomb Raider opened, the gondola held 77 seats. After a few seasons, around 7 seats were removed from each row on the unload side of the gondola in an attempt to balance the gondola. Since this didn't completely solve the issue, the entire front row was removed. Changes were frequently made to the ride program but the intense maneuvers would ultimately cause the ride to fault even after all of the changes to the gondola. Basically, it was a top spin that couldn't top spin so it was removed. The ride itself never lived up to pre-show anyway.
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5 hours ago, TristinTargaryen said:
Apparently this was found at Carowinds...
Whoever created this has a very good knowledge of KI Operations.
As a previous poster said, 29 = non-operational ride. 4661 and 4660 were Firehawk's phone numbers. Clear-Going-Down = one of the spiels at Sky Flyer.
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Decoding 2020
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Good point. Those would all work well as they could be themed to a rocket ship. Lumberjack could be themed that way too.