shizzzon
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People keep saying that but that's not a 156mph drop.
That looks to be a drop in the 90s... maybe 100s but after that, it hits a launch.. to 156 required to get up that hill... just like TTD.
My curiosity is how tall the hill needs to be to reach 126mph because that's what that hill reaches after the 156mph launch.
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6 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
RMC Racer will not happen as long as John Matarese is around.
Sorry, I had to.. it was too easy.
I like to see Sledgehammer make it's way into the US from Canada. Bring it to KI, I dont care.
if Area 72 and Action Zone tend to eventually connect to each other in the future by wrapping way out in the woods, I could see a LOT of room for flat rides.
I dont see purpose of a ferris wheel when the Eiffel Tower exists.
KI does need a sky ride like CP especially if Area 72 expansion plans to get bigger.
I think there should be an all around park sky ride. Multiple drop points to help move people. Riders would have to get off and get in line if they want to keep going so it would be cool to go from Orion to Mystic Timbers with no walking hardly.
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I'm more excited this is happening outside the USA than wanting to spend a fortune just to go ride it.
Why?
Rollercoaster Wars has just been ramped up!
Shall we ask Cedar Fair to dethrone these shenanigans?
Cedar Point..
1st Hyper, Giga, Strata...
Dont let another park ruin the running records.
Get the first Tera coaster!
The more Falcons Flight is put in the spotlight, I believe the more we, in the US, may be in for a treat in the no so distant future...
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Even if not true, I'll believe until it happens.. at the least, the minute someone finds a 3yr contract with rmc and ki on it, it will be TEOTWAWKI all over again.
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28 minutes ago, lifetimecoaster said:
I know you're being facetious with that statement, however, my fear is that there will come a time, probably after we're all too old to ride anymore where the coasters will all be torn down because of these fears. I'm getting old enough now that I'm bruised and often sore after a 12 hour riding marathon.... that being said, I don't see it as a bad thing. Comes with the territory of being almost 40 and still doing kid stuff.
I'm 37. Currently, the difference I have now vs a teenager is-
I have to stay hydrated more and I take 1 aleve the morning of or I chance getting very bad headache after 6+hrs.
Water park- I dont like any body slides as they give me rash burn
19 minutes ago, IndyGuy4KI said:I have talked to many couples in their upper 60's in line for MT, DB, and Beast. I want to be them when I get that age. Retire and go to KI.
We see many people in this age group and older at CP and makes me wonder how? I'm not talking about enduring pain but at that age, the conditions people typically get, doctors would prohibit theme park rides a good idea.
I did witness a man in his 60s ride Rougarou and when he returned, they had to shut the ride down as he had blood draining from his forehead and ear. He was yelling, cursing about how rough it was.
There are many rough rides and not knowing the tricks on how to lean and brace yourself certain ways can be quite painful.
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Uh oh.. someone injured their thumb while on Copperhead strike.
Tear em all down! Lol
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I feel the next world record coaster they get in few yrs will need to be a hyper wooden coaster. This will give Cedar Fair only the 2nd park to have 3 rides over 200ft.
I cant get that an image out of my head that RMC was at Ki last year
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16 hours ago, MonteCristo said:
The cards could definitely be a part of that. Kind of ruins the spontaneity of playing one of the games in my opinion. Remember when you would just take your dollar, put it in the try, and flip it over into the little lockbox?
Could also be a cost issue. Not sure what the standard carnival games cost, but the Age/Weight game by Zephyr is $10 bucks per play which seems pretty outrageous to me.
That cost dictates how much the prizes are worth. At CP, they have 3 different ones spread throughout the park. I played and won at all of them and each had different price. They are expected to lose so you get to purchase your prize with the game cost.
I havent done KIs but CP takes cash.
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I know CPs policies are very strict but this one family we witnessed does make a good point-
They purchased those portable fans that shoot water out from one of the shops so they dont melt waiting in line.
They got all the way up to get on a ride and they kicked them out of line saying either throw them away or leave the queue line and put them in a locker... Now, the perception of the device is to use it while waiting but its illegal to use in their lines. So they were able to get a refund on them but that is ridiculous.
CP is all about load times and not much on customer satisfaction.
We know how they are though so we kick it up a notch when someone tries to cut in front of us because they know someone further down the line..
We typically call them out loud and dare them to lay a finger on one of us. Cedar Point staff completely agrees and sides with us when taking charge in lines. Break the rules, the wrath of the staff or some random person awaits.
We dont do that anywhere else because all other parks are laid back but we have to be pretty much security at CP because it happens so often there. People getting arrested and others simply getting thrown out the park is fairly common.
They are not playing when it comes to breaking the rules.
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Talking to employee last night, he said yesterday was only 2nd time this year they had to open the entire queue line up for Diamondback.
He said right before school starts is the busiest time of the year for them
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Then that would mean any rollercoaster built on top of the stratosphere holds the record as tallest rollercoaster in the world since you'd have to measure the tower height too.
Or, one can say the physical lift hill must go X feet up..
Well, then in THAT case, only Red Force is a huge because the lift hill vertical height will all be below 300ft from the loading station,
So then one will say the drop cant count because if the loading station was on top of a mountain, then just went straight out then fell 500ft... that would be considered NO category of height? Lol....ok.
Does anyone see how crazy that sounds?
If a ride dropped 500ft but nobody is allowed to call it a Tera because the ride HEIGHT is 10ft, lol... then it's the worst design ever, etc...
It should be very simple but it seems people want to narrow down what is what to make other rides "sound" better.
A giga should be ANY rollercoaster where ANY ride element has a vertical pinnacle OR drop that exceeds 299.99999999ft!
That means if we took Maverick at CP and put a mega launch on it and shot it up 315ft loop and came out after leaving the tunnel, then guess what... Maverick is now a giga.
The PERCEPTION and feel of 300ft+ is what's required. Not where it happens at.
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KI is PACKED!
Flight of Fear earlier hit 3hrs. Line went all the way out to where the ground changes to black.
Invertigo we waited for 1hr 20min.
The Bat was 1hr 40min
Vortex line all the way out to juke box diner right after rain around 330.
Flying aces kid ride hit just over 1hr..
We are about to wait for Diamondback but this is how it's going to be next year.
We're getting the APFLPs for $849. This giga just going to make it worse.
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I think they need to completely rebuild the walkway back to The Bat.
The Bat is in the way of further expansion already.
I think what may happen in future is The Bat is removed, the entire area expanded further into the woods, plenty of things to add along the way like stands, restaurant, etc.
Back in this area, they would have the room for some flat rides and a decent sized coaster as well, even some World Record coaster if the timing is right.
On the other hand, they need a ride towering over the entrance of the park like Leviathan and GateKeeper, BUT Invertigo is in the way and I dont see them removing or relocating it since they just replaced the train on it this year.
Perhaps a large enough ride can tower over the trees to make itself known? Fury 325 isn't directly in the front but close to it within walking distance.
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Just think how expensive that one piece of track is above that when crossed offers less than 1 second of excitement and you dont even realize it
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For all those focusing on the stats, let me chime in here because many think it's the Lite version of a giga.
I've road every giga coaster in North America and their parks hypers as well and know just by watching the rendering what type of giga this is.
Millennium force- focuses on speed and maintaining it.
I305- this is a 1 off. Unholy speed first few seconds then turns into Maverick.
Leviathan- 1st giga from b&m. First 2/3 of the ride, pretty intense then we have to ride over some brakes and it loses its giga feel then it just randomly ends...
Fury 325- first half, very intense, last half... replica of how hypers feel towards their end.
Orion-
Very intense.... NO TRIM BRAKES, NO Mid brake.. just pure speed like MF.
But it's short?
EXACTLY! GOOD!
Why is that good?
Look what happened to Fury 325 by making it super long. At some point, it just meanders on along at much slower speeds just looking for the loading station.
KI wants you to feel Intensity to the max. This rollercoaster will NOT slow down to regain your thoughts on what just happened 5 seconds ago.
You won't be able to process anything after the pinnacle of the first drop until your completely stopped at the end cheering that this is a Speed Demon.
Giga coasters are suppose to be fast because they are taller and because of this, their ride duration will be lower than a hyper.
Trying to match durational ride time to a hyper gives you the slow down effects Leviathan abs Fury 325 have.
Trust me, this is NO poor design.
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I keep hearing this in my head after seeing the terminator pic, lol...
Come with me if you want to ride.
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DO NOT FORGET- if they do not mention it, someone ask why the Firehawk seats are still there and if it will be part of 2020 FLP?
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15 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
Look who I found!
To conclude the decoding. This reunion may be the end of the world as we know it
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3 minutes ago, LuckyluvsKI said:
Never said they couldn't. Don't know why your trying to argue when you're making my point. CP has always been a peninsula and a finite amount of land. To expand they have to pay to expand the land mass by adding ground into the lake like you said they had to make land. Ki was purchased big and has room to grow for now with lots of usable space.
I think this giga is a sign they definitely want ki and CP to stay on top. Which is great for commerce in Ohio.
Not arguing, I thought you just missed that part of what I was saying. Didn't want people to think in 60yrs, Cedar Point would have, for example, the best of every ride possible in the park.. then something from outer space is shown and they have to get it first but they must choose which record coaster to tear down...
Imo only, if they wanted to REALLY expand, they could remove the water park completely off site and move it back on mainland and use island for just rides.
If they wanted to get physical, they could force everyone living there to LEAVE permanently and then they take over the eastern part of the island.
It's not far fetched.
Louisville International airport SDF bought residential land and forced MANY people to leave their homes and move elsewhere.
This was about 25 years ago. The land is still not being used today so you do not even need a reason to be acted on to buy out land from people and rezone it for all commercial use.
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29 minutes ago, LuckyluvsKI said:
If Disney can turn a swamp into wdw the woods at ki can be used
but like I said CP had to remove things to add land. Be it a hotel or buy other land outside of what they have.
And skyway attraction would be great and they could expand the train to add a stop. Plenty of room to continue growing for sure.
In the news, it literally stated besides tearing a hotel down, they physically added a few extra acres to their island, not from knocking the hotel down but adding physical land mass.
Here is video from Coaster-net talking about it.
So Cedar Point can continue to add land mass if they so desire without knocking things down.
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Just now, LuckyluvsKI said:
Ki had so much land left to develop I could think CF might transition to make CP and ki flagship parks. CP doesn't have any more being landlocked. It's just build and replace, so adding bigger stuff to ki will help Cedar Fair keep right on earning.
Not totally landlocked.
They just knocked a hotel down and built few new acres of land onto the island for unknown reasons right now.
They just bought the golf course resort and whatever else just outside the park.
KI land isnt totally usable... plus, even if all that woodes area were usable, they better bring back the Sky Ride and start it from the Eiffel Tower and just hop all around the park in a big loop.
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2 minutes ago, Beast Night Rider said:
Am I the only one that wants to know what was in that little tin box inside the Eiffel Tower clue box??
I figured it was just a little nic nac item since the teasing of it was not needed on live tv
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If there is no mention of it at the announcement, someone ask why the Firehawk seats are still back there...
And
Someone check for new trademarks tomorrow too.
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Six Flags Entertainment (SIX) in Bid to Acquire Cedar Fair L.P. (FUN) - Reuters
in Rumors
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Looks like Kings Island did make one mistake.
They used the acronym TEOTWAWKI for the wrong event.
Better put tape over the entire construction area with a picture of Firehawk on it and use new headline-
TEOTWAWKI- Six Flags to offer bid to Cedar Fair.