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So now the billion dollar question, what is the value Cedar Fair believes its company to be worth? Obviously more than 4, but just for fun throw your ideas and reasoning out there.
Current market cap is $3.38B. Revenue was $1.349B. Net income is $127M for the year. It looks like they run 3-6% on the annual return when things are on the upswing.
A little riskier but better than any bank around here!
I don’t think the $650M difference was enough to turn heads. SF must be shouldering some massive debt, because even though they are worth more than CF they are hardly making any more money on the year than CF is. Their cash on hand is really low as well.
My guess is that offer would have to increase dramatically, like $6-8B, before any interest is attracted.
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A 4x4 box crib is capable of supporting 6,000 lbs per contact point, so 24,000 lbs for 4 pieces of wood.
Up that to 6x6 and you get 15,000 lbs per contact point, for 60,000 lbs total for 4 pieces of wood.
The larger the piece, the higher the weight per contact point, the more you can support.
Edit: this was written for FEMA US&R but explains it well.
https://www.absoluterescue.com/vehicle/quick-tipbox-cribbing/
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Looking at the webcam.... is that a piece of track st the bottom of drop? And is it installed now?
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It better spreads out the weight to keep it from sinking into the soil. It's like how a snowshoe distributes a person's weight over greater surface area in deep snow.
These are called “ground pads”. There are lots of situations where they are used, for even weight distribution. Plus, it will help compact the base as a whole.
What will be interesting to see, is if this is it, or if they start laying large metal plates over top of it. The idea is to keep building up until a layer is firm with little flex.-
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On 8/26/2019 at 11:34 AM, Maverick44 said:
Was waiting in line for kings Mills Autos and guy behind us talking to his wife/ kids. Saying he has pics of being on this ride back in the 80's. Obviously not true haha
Another was the people behind u son AE who told their kids the coaster was older then them combined and it was 100 years old haha
He's thinking of the future - 2080s, instead of the past. I wonder what KMAA will look like in 2080... i doubt any of us will be around to ride it...
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17 hours ago, Xdog42 said:
To be fully honest guys, I don't care about height Orion height. The part of this coaster that annoyed me was length. Undeniably, this Giga is short and has an extremely long break run. I don't think you can argue that... I think we could have done better with Orion honestly, It's just when I see the Layout out of this coaster combined with the length of it, I feel like we could have done better. Orion will be a good coaster and I won't give my final judgment until I ride it. Though, compared to other Gigas, Orion simply looks underwhelming. Maybe budget was too extreme of a term, but every time I look at Orion, It doesn't feel complete. I can't go on and state all the things I feel could have been done better with Orion, but simply I'm not the biggest fan of the layout. The most frustrating part about this is that it feels as if there is no right way to express disappointment in this coaster without someone thinking your unappreciative or a person who only cares about stats. There is a lot more I want to say, but for now I'll leave it at that.....
(sorry I know this is still A Vortex thread)
The simple answer to this is then don't ride it. That's more opportunities for the rest of us.
Rides that are higher and go faster need longer brake runs. There's no argument there, just simple facts.
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The theme song to Bonanza. I'd just as soon they remove the modern junk and fill it with old tunes, or turn it all off. It's also decent when someone has a clue about the history of it and can just talk to the guests. Positive interaction is best!
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No you cannot. Improper use of random characters violates the TOS.
I don’t consider Orion a cheap giga. If we are going to talk about cheap rides, there are so many others to choose from.
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Like I didn’t see this coming a mile away... Everyone wanted to talk about how much lower their prices will be. Yup, this is definitely “lower”...
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Maybe we can talk SF into buying Coney Island, then they’ll leave the rest of us alone...
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If Orion gets renamed to Superman...
*RAGE MODE TRIGGERED*
They would take advantage of this quicker than you would ever believe. They don’t even have to paint anything. Some Superman stickers and life is good!
After watching what they did to KK, not interested in any way, shape or form. I had a season pass to KI during the Paramount days— at least to that end, Paramount would spend money in the park and do some stuff. We saw what SF did to KK.
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I was talking to a friend today and I think he's onto something when he said that (maybe) we are paying the price for a giga at the expense of Firehawk AND Vortex....thoughts?
I doubt it. I really think Vortex is a popularity issue. Most days even when the park is busy, Vortex is almost a walk-on. The more I think about this, the more apparent it becomes. They made the queue on the pathway much shorter in previous years, because it was no longer needed.
I truly believe some part of this ride is hitting failure state. Something that is of significant enough expense that cost vs benefit is rapidly playing into it. I don’t believe the brakes story and I don’t believe the controller after hearing from those on this forum.
So what’s left? Chain, anti-rollback, lift motor, Paint job, etc. Which of these items is the true likely demise of this coaster. What about the MCBR? Could there be something going on there that is costly enough that someone has decided it isn’t worth repairing?-
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The park will never allow the general public to see how many cars are in the parking lot. Allowing potential customers to see the parking lot is full before leaving the house and dissuading them from coming? That's terrible business sense.
I didn’t say anything about that. But you said movable cams would never happen, which makes zero sense. PTZ cams would be perfect as you never have to physically move them, just go in and adjust them.-
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They will never, ever do that.
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Are we positive they are tearing it down this season yet? And actually will be exciting if they move Diamondback cam. I love it but imagine WindSeeker the back half of orion and new construction of a coaster.
Cons: I wont be able to tell how long Diamondbacks line is... and we lost Banshee cams so i cant make my late park decisions based on webcam lines
I think they just need to add more cams. It’s not like they are expensive. Obviously with the ease of moving them they have the infrastructure in place for this. If they don’t move one to the far end of Racer, we will never see that end of Orion being built.-
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That’s a very large piece of track...
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Cleo's on the move back to the drop area. I think I saw a support loaded onto a flat-bed heading over there. Might be another good day for erection (the construction type)
It looks like they set it on the close edge of the gravel pad. I wonder if that means they are going to work on the helix and ground section over there? It would be tough to access that area after the lift hill is in place.-
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I doubt it’s brakes. Failure of the control system seems more likely. I can understand that from a cost perspective. With arrow no longer in business, it’s not just a PLC upgrade to a newer unit. I doubt the wiring schematics on Vortex still exist.
I don’t see them keeping it SBNO. With large cranes already on site, probably cheaper to scrap it now. SBNO just will make it look junky next season. I’ll bet it’s gone in record time.-
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I wonder if they will continue to do the low work where they can? Maybe they complete much of the rest of the circuit to finish with the start/end later on?
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Based on above^^ That has to be part of the drop! There is nothing else that low to the ground going that direction in that area. Good job [mention=9314]LovinMeSomeBanshee[/mention]
I agree. I think they are bolting the backbone into lengths of 2 pieces so that when the big cranes are in, they can erect them rapidly.
I think they are just staging them where convenient.-
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It looks like they are assembling 3 pieces together.
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I think they are moving that piece around to then just watch all of us respond to what we think they’re doing. If they only knew what the smallest movement down on the site does to this forum haha.
So the construction crew is “trolling” us...? That’s a new one...-
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I may be wrong, because they are out there doing stuff again with that backbone mount.
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I’m going to guess they are stopping for the day. 41 minutes ago the temp was already up to 85. It’s now showing 89. With a forecast high of 94. This is quite unusual for us for October. I’d say weather is having a negative effect at this point.
At some point you have to decide when the working conditions become inhospitable and inhumane. It’s not just the heat. The steel has to be expanding and getting very hot with time.
We may just have to wait a few days for the dry cold front to move through.-
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Orion Construction Photos
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Don’t ask me why, but I still find it hilarious that you have to start with a small crane to built a bigger one and then use a bigger crane to build the biggest one, which may also add parts onto the bigger one before it’s all said and done!