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  1. Yeah, honestly, that sounds about right. Lately though, I've noticed parallels between specific groups of major Cedar Fair parks: Kings Island versus Canada's Wonderland and Carowinds (three B&M gigas), Cedar Point versus Kings Dominion (two RMC hybrids), Cedar Point versus Knott's Berry Farm (two Intamin Accelerators) and I would dare say Knott's Berry Farm and Carowinds might be paralleling one another in the next fifteen years or so (no direct correlation other than coasters that are chain-wide, that one is just my hunch). If you were to go by the parallels alone, two options come up for KI that the two parks it's closest to (in terms of lineup) have: the B&M dive machine, and the Mack multi-launch. With what you said about the aesthetics of the coasters you had in mind, there's hardly any contest. P.S.: I'm sorry if I've posted the same thing elsewhere, I haven't been on in a few months; college is nuts.
  2. Apparently somebody behind the scenes doesn't know what Kings Island's current lineup is, because that almost looks like Helix at Liseberg or ICON at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Edit: I meant the app devs. Didn't mean to sound rude.
  3. Kings Island's history in the world of classic roller coasters is so rich and full that it's hard to say whether an RMC or full GCI makeover would be appropriate for any of their wooden coasters. The Racer was the original KI roller coaster and the last major piece of work designed by the great John C. Allen, and this coaster was the coaster that reignited America's love of roller coasters. The Beast was, you could say, the original backyard roller coaster (Charles Dinn would later design coasters such as Mean Streak) and, regardless of how lacking in airtime or quick turns and dips like Mystic Timbers, is that legendary wooden coaster that everyone in the southern half of Ohio is sure to have heard of at least once in their lives. Mystic Timbers is pretty much brand-new, so I'd say no to a makeover or modification. As for Woodstock Express, I rode it last when I was 13 and, for a kiddie coaster, it could be a little smoother. In my opinion, The Beast does need some GCI magic worked on the downward slope into the second tunnel (it felt a little too rough, even compared to the rest of it). RMC Racer? There's only one sticking point to that coaster that makes it seem a little underwhelming, and that's the layout: out-and-back dueling is a little too old-school for my taste (to each his own). If they RMC'd The Racer, I would hope for a Mobius-loop layout so that the trains would cross over to the other side and go through the layout a second time. Just for fun: anyone have some ideas for a new name for The Racer should it be RMC'd?
  4. Definitely. There was, at one point, a plan about a teased wing coaster named "The Bat" coming to Kings Island in 2014, but the plan was changed and they received Banshee instead (the name fits another suspended coaster better anyway). This probably won't be the case for Vortex because of how iconic and familiar it is to most people. Instead, they might name the coaster something that harkens back to the former (i.e. "Thunderhead" for a launched coaster, "Wild Winds" for a coaster with lots of inversions, etc.).
  5. I definitely think that, eventually, the bulk of that plot will be used for a roller coaster. It's probably not going to be a surprise to many if it's more than a three-year wait before it comes around (mostly due to COVID-19's effects on every single amusement/theme park worldwide), but I still hope that it comes soon anyway. Ultimately, the only criteria that I think would make Vortex's replacement a knock-your-socks-off spectacular ride would be any model that can handle tons of inversions. Think about it this way: Kings Island only has three coasters that feature inversions, and one of them is not a full-circuit coaster. They've got their two tall coasters, two launched coaster (even though one is a little more on the tame side), three wooden coasters, three coasters that are more unique types (The Bat, Banshee, Adventure Express) and one shuttle coaster. Banshee: 7 inversions, Flight of Fear: 4 inversions, Invertigo: 3 inversions. Meanwhile, Cedar Point has seven coasters that feature inversions (I've probably dragged this post on for far too long, so I'm just going to leave it at the number). What Kings Island really needs if they want a great new coaster in the future is a Gerstlauer with tons of inversions and a 90-plus degree drop. It's capable of handling inversions and hangtime, and they're somewhat uncommon: only 11 exist currently in the United States (according to RCDb, see link below). https://rcdb.com/r.htm?ol=59&el=7238&mk=6948&ot=2
  6. True indeed about the lack of major theming points in Oktoberfest. Perhaps an open, shaded pavilion that resembles some proper German architecture or something--isn't there some kind of recreational area akin to a garden or park near that area? Now, regarding the blatant lack of theming for most rides in AZ, here's the issue: that area is akin to a movie set even now (think of it as the higgledy-piggledy of stuff from all different movie genres, like ghastly suspense thrillers for Banshee and jungle chase scenes for Congo Falls). This is something that, as it seems, Cedar Fair may have tried to hold over from the Paramount days without a) scrapping about 30-40% of what was there and joining the rest with Oktoberfest and b) having to pay excessive license fees for full-fledged theming like SF does with DC Comics characters. Maybe an easy way to theme it would be to have stuff like movie reel designs or clapperboards at the entrance to the area, along with names that would fit some of the rides that have (to some people) cheesy names: "Drop Tower" becomes "Stunt Double," "Xtreme Skyflyer" becomes "Skydiver" and "Invertigo" becomes "Flashback" (last one may be just a bad name idea, sorry if it's cringeworthy).
  7. All of those ideas are spectacular, probably the best ideas I've heard for KI area theming in a long time. Love the new name idea for Delirium. Not to get hopes too high, but maybe they could do two interactives in the future: one in Rivertown for more of a family-oriented experience (appropriate for older kids under 13, along with their families) and another in a rethemed Action Zone for something more for something a little more mature (if you've ever heard of the now long-defunct "Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour" attraction at Tokyo Disneyland, it would be something along those lines). In regard of retheming Action Zone, I think they may as well join it with Oktoberfest. Folklore and the supernatural have always been tied to European cultures for centuries, and the area itself only has two or three attractions right now. Banshee: a female apparition of Irish folklore. The Bat: look at the depiction of Vampires, many being portrayed as European in origin. The proposed rename, Dark Forest Express: to me, that just screams "werewolf" all over it for some reason (not to rip off any other parks, namely Busch Gardens Williamsburg with Verbolten).
  8. True, very true. Backlot Stunt Coaster is more of a halfway mark between family and thrill. I think a Mack or Intamin launched coaster would be amazing. What about something in-your-face like Maverick at Cedar Point? It would have to be different enough to not be called a clone or mirror-image, though.
  9. @Magenta Lizard , I agree as well, but there is always room for improvement. As it stands, the four absolutely standout attractions are Diamondback, Mystic Timbers, The Beast and White Water Canyon, of course. It may seem silly of me to bring it up, but a rumor that I heard floating around elsewhere on the web are that an attraction similar to Cedar Point's interactive attraction--Forbidden Frontier--could be coming to a park such as Kings Island. I do think that this could be one such way to bring some new life to areas like Rivertown, reinvigorating the theme of an Old West frontier town. I do have to digress: an ideal way to place such a thing in the park would be to utilize some land where Vortex once stood, redrawing the boundaries of Rivertown to encompass such an attraction. Of course, KI has no plans in the works as far as we know; who knows what they'll do with it in the future?
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