silver2005

^No way both go. Having one fills in a niche for people who can't afford to go to KI.

Channeling your inner Terpy I see. I think this is it for The Beach, too. Not only with the neighbor to the south, but even more so with Coney Island announcing they're going all in on their water park.

For those wondering, there is a LaRosa's restaurant close by on the corner of Columbia Rd and US 22, about 10 minutes from the park. There's another one near where Western Row meets US 42 which is about 12 minutes from the park.

I think KI should partner with LaRosa's to revamp all the locations in the park, both to approach the quality outside the park and possibly expand the menu.

Tip- if you want to make LaRosa's sauce sing- add a bit of kick. A bit of a spicy flavor really goes with LaRosa's pizza sauce very well. Also helps if the sauce is pretty fresh out of the oven. Especially when I order hoagies and calzones, I either add jalapenos on them or on the side. silver2005, who wishes KI would take a page from the Reds and offer calzones in the park.

I agree it vibrated a lot, but I think that's just due to needing a paint touch up. I wouldn't qualify that as being rough though. Parts aren't a concern because S&S still churns them out. Several suspended coasters are defunct from age, but all those were either pretty aggressive compared to Bat and I have to think with BBW that with Schwarzkopf starting it and Arrow finishing it that something with the design unique to it led to it going early along with some aggressive swinging as well. Ninja is one to watch in that regard. I would say Bat's got between 5-10 years, and that might be generous.

Bat goes up the lift slower due to the blocking. The train on the brakes comes off that block section slower as the bottom used to hit the centering rail too fast and led to people banging their heads on the restraints, and its less hard on the chain motors to slow than to stop then start.

I was unaware of problems with Twisted Timbers and RailBlazer? What were they?

For @malem

You really want a windchill produced by going 90+ mph in winter? Myself? I'm already annoyed by 53 mph windchill on Timbers. You can have your hypothermia, thank you very much.

After riding Nitro, the 4 across trains are my preference over the DB style on B&M hypers. They really zip through the course.

Next time we get an upgrade, I would ask that it be made available that members can block entire threads.

^But you used Rougarou as an example and equivocating that with the actual track removal of Mean Streak and Disaster Transport for Steel Vengeance and GateKeeper respectively when no track was removed to make way for Mantis transforming into Rougarou. Using it in that example and the discussion on whether people count it as 1 or 2 credits are 2 different discussions.

^Physically, Rougarou is Mantis. They didn't get rid of a coaster for that.

I concur with malem on the opinion about flumes. They're meant to be more good natured fun, not really all thrilling (at least not on par with a coaster), but they really aren't meant to be. And they aren't really supposed to get you all that wet on them either, that's what water rides like White Water Canyon and Congo Falls are for.