silver2005

In response to extremely specific fact checking, sometimes skewing the conversation-

KI is in Ohio and BGW is in Virginia. Different states have different laws. HP has to deal with similar laws, hence why Great Bear has it's funky supports.

I'm just rattling off cool elements. If CF and KI are going to drop $30 milllion+, I wanna see how much bang for the buck we can get and make it look awesome.

I think the hype worked out well regardless. Most of my GP friends I've talked to about this are pretty pleased Racer is getting some TLC, even if the retracking isn't as much as initially thought. I think the public wants Racer to be good and understand it'll take more than one off-season to get it back to being more comfortable despite the media leaving that out. Though, as I've stated before, I thought Racer was running pretty well this past season.

I have one last element request out of a giga- A Stengel dive.

Here's another kind of turnaround element I'd like to see- something like PortAventura's Shambhala. Just imagine that awesome figure 8 looking hill towering over the entrance to the parking lot. I wonder how much banking B&M would do before they consider an element an inversion... EDIT: Could someone PM me a good overhead map of Kings Island that includes (and focuses on) the area between X-Base and the parking lot entrance (updated to include Banshee). I think I may concoct some layout predictions.

^To give you perspective, Millennium Force's next tallest element is the hill going over to the island, which clocks in at around 190 ft. Fury's tallest element is also at 190. I want to see that speed put to use. Of course, I want longer stretches to cruise at 80+ mph, but having some awesome airtime at those heights would be awesome as well. A reason I like Storm Runner so much is the airtime it has with a 191 ft drop, and with the speed you get from a giga, not to mention the sustained momentum from those 4 across B&M trains, which hold speed better than the V-seating with Diamondback, I think it would still be great. I really, really don't want something like I-305 or Skyrush.

For those not in the know about coaster elements- Non-Inverted Loop http://rollercoaster.wikia.com/wiki/Non-Inverted_Loop Non-inverted corkscrew See most of the hills near the end of Superman: The Ride in SFNE (the 3 hills starting around the 1:38 mark)

Here are some other elements I hope to be part of a giga at Kings Island- - A 200 ft camel back hill (or some element topping 200 ft) - Non-inverted loop - Some sort of turn around similar to Fury 325's - Non-inverting corkscrew - If its in X-base, a hill going over the Flight of Fear building or a helix wrapping around the spaghetti bowl building - Maybe something that threads through one or more of Banshee's inversions (a giga should have the momentum to get over to The Bat from X-Base) -90 degree angle first drop - Enough height to reach 100 mph

I have my first requests for this trip. - ACE doesn't do discounts to Dollywood nor BGW, so any info on discounts would be appreciated. - I'm gonna go with my gut in terms of food at BGW and DW (another reminder to myself- get the cinnamon bread), but I could use dining suggestions for KD and Carowinds - Any nice restaurants in Charlotte or Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg (gonna treat myself to one really good meal on the trip) - Best route suggestions from Cincinnati to Richmond, VA (I have a Massachusetts EZ Pass), this is by far the longest leg of the trip and there appears to be no good direct route between the 2 with a spiders web of routes I can choose

@SonofBaconator At the same time, you have to give credit where it is due. If Intamin has made strides to be more reliable, they deserve credit. They are building quite a lot overseas including the 367 ft Red Force (0-111.9 mph in 5 seconds on LSM's, more reliable than the hydraulic launches), Energylandia's Hyperion (chain lift, no cables), and BGW's 2020 coaster is a confirmed Intamin along with SWSA's newest coaster. I haven't heard much of any major problems from them lately as well.

You Intamin fanboys might be in luck as they are making a comeback in the US thanks to the Busch/Sea World parks. You better hope they do well if they want any chance to work with FUN and SIX again.

^Or the long awaited B&M 4D coaster...

This feels reminiscent of the Shapiro maneuver SIX did in the early 2000s that led them to bankruptcy in dumping all this money into big rides. Granted, SEAS has less parks and a bit more wiggle room in terms of their markets, but this does seem a bit much in such a short time span.

Almost every B&M I've ridden is more forceful than Millennium Force (sans Valravn and Superman Ultimate Flight).