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  1. 13 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

    They're okay, but I just feel that the checkerboards don't fit now as it isn't Paramount anymore. Delirium had its checkerboard removed in 2014 when Banshee opened. Don't want to be negative, but I just feel this is a big missed opportunity to not remove them. 

    I agree, they have a chance to continue reforming/reshaping that area.  With the "darker" themed Banshee and Bat names, they could have repainted Drop Tower something 'darker" and perhaps renamed it something to fit in more with a mid-evil theme.  Heck, even the Drop Tower name could have been used, just add some castle theming to the que area.

  2. Melt at CP had a bunch of the old "you must be this tall to ride this ride" signs around the restaurant.  The ones that played up to the them of the ride and were personalized for each ride, rather than a generic "48" marker or whatever height is required.  Used to be great as a kid when you could stand next to them eager for when you finally reached the height of whatever character was marking the requirement.  I'd love to see those come back to not only The Beast, but many other rides as well.  Doesn't have to be similar to the original ones, but something more creative and fun.

    Specifically to The Beast, other than some TLC, I'd love to see the water mill work again, at least in some capacity.  I also wouldn't mind having its neighbor back as well.  Ol' lady was rough (or was it just me) but she was still a site to behold even when they buried her in the ground.

  3. Is something like this different enough from The Scrambler that it would be a good add for KI?  I don't do spinny flat rides, but the breakdance clips I saw looks similar to The Scrambler, but upped up in spinny fun by like a 100 x.  Seems like something that could be a good fit, say somewhere themed as a flight simulator program......  If we only knew a park that was hinting at such things :)

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  4. On 10/4/2021 at 6:29 PM, ThrillKingsFitzy said:

    Flying Ace Aerial Chase. Boring and very very rough. I don’t like The Beast either, mostly because last time I rode on a wheel seat

    I believe that is the first time I've ever seen FAAC described as very very rough.  I've always found it silky smooth and sneaky fun.  Its aim is the 4-7 year old kid and their parents, so I get the boring in comparison to your typical coaster.  I've always found it fun.

    My worst coaster... Excalibur at ValleyFair! or Cedar Creek Mine Ride.

  5. just watched a POV of the ride in question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_BX3IJdy3o


    frankly, I have no clue why that ride even has a weight limit, or at least a weight limit of 200 lbs.  Doesn't seem like someone would be in any sort of risk riding that if they weighed 300 lbs.


    Tunnel of Terror


    is a 2 person slide, though possibly (and likely) they allow singles to ride.

  6. 90 kg is a shade under 200 lbs.  That seems like a pretty low max weight capacity for a ride.

    I do have an issue with the paper calling it "fat shaming". 200 lbs is pretty big for a 13 year old girl (my 13 year old son is roughly 5-10 and certainly not skinny, weighs roughly 160-165 lbs) but non the less; its about safety and ride manufacturer recommendations. 


    I'm sure the parents and paper would have been fine had the park allowed 200 lb visitors to ride and one of them fell off the slide and got seriously injured (or worse).

  7. I doubt they have ever officially said "it will never run backwards again".  Perhaps something to the effect that there are no plans to run it backwards again, but it wouldn't be good PR to paint yourself into such a corner with the words "never" on such a subject.


    It may not have been designed to run backwards and PTC instructions may instruct them to only run it forward (though I've always felt this was a dubious claim, instructions were likely how to mount it with no mention or thought to ever reversing the seats on the train.

    The ride had a rather lengthy history of running one side backwards with few to no incidents that I'm aware of.  I doubt it would be that hard to have an engineer or design professional form an approval letter for running it backwards again if that is all it takes.

    Its always been my belief that PR's claim that they turned the far side around was primarily because that is the way it was intended and originally ran to bull.  I believe the main reason they turned it around was so that both ride experiences were essentially the same and on slow days or at park opening, they could keep one side running, and the other side down and not take anything away from their guests.  I don't recall if ridership (at least when I was there) was significantly less on the backwards side or not, but that could potentially play a role as well if the general public just didn't like the backwards experience near as much.  Personally, I always loved the backwards experience and it always gave me a reason to ride it twice on each visit.

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  8. I get where Coaster Salley is going.  Its certainly not legally the parents fault, but if it was me, that would be of little solace cause I'd still blame myself.


    Personally, I've never really thought much about it, I always check my youngest kids seastbelts before doing my own, but that is mostly a function of just helping them get the mechanics down.  My oldest (13) I never check and trust me if it was learned that he was injured or killed because he thought it would be 'cool' to sit on top of the seat belt rather than be secure I'd be besides myself.  Similarly, without knowing the height requirements nor the height of the child, it is entirely possible that the kid was old enough to ride it without an adult, with perhaps an older brother or even by him/herself.  My 5 year old is tall enough to ride The Beast and Mystic Timbers by himself, but I wouldn't let that happen as I'd want to keep an eye on him.  However, I've let my then 9 year old ride The Racer by himself while I watched my then 1 year old in a stroller and my wife and middle daughter rode The scrambler together.  Again, I'd certainly be kicking myself if something had happened to my oldest on those occasions.


    Blame is 100% on the ride ops, but the feeling of guilt will remain with both the ride ops and the parents for the rest of their lives.

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  9. How is the capacity on Jersery Devil?  POV makes it look like they could run a 4 train operation, 3 at least, do they have that many trains?  Do they ever run it that way?  I assume Great Adventure gets large crowds, and if they can make it work there from a capacity standpoint, then I think something like that could work at KI.

    Can the Raptors do launches?  Imagine what they could do with that plot of land and cutting thru the forest with a multi-launcher raptor.  They could make one heck of an awesome ride.

    With that said, have there been any rumors of what will replace Wicked Twister up at the Pointe?  If Raptor's are the rage, I could see something similar to Jersey Devil working around the rumored board walk themed area they will create around Wicked Twister's plot.

  10. In the last 20+ years, there have been 2 Stand up rollercoaster installed in parks.  One is a clone of KI's King Cobra that was relocated from Canada's Wonderland to some park in Italy.  The other was relocated from Kentucky (Chang) to Six Flag's great Adventure.

    The odds of a completely new one (or even a relocated one) being installed at KI is very, very small.  Heck, I'd say the odds of  a new one being installed anywhere as very, very small, and a relocated one being only a tad less small.

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  11. Congo Falls.....best air time in the park  :)

    Even on hot days when I've been this summer, on sunday's since mid week wasn't possible for much of this summer like it has been in the past for my family, Congo falls rarely had much of  al line.  It does tend to eat lines pretty quickly even with only 2 boats running like it seems like it usually does.  My kids love it, I love it, but I do agree that its location is no longer ideal and I'll assume its somewhere near the end of its service life (though for all I know, those things could run forever with minimal maintenance, I just know its been around for a while).  I'd love to see it relocate elsewhere in the park, but that seems unlikely/expensive relative to what, if any increase in customer satisfaction it would provide elsewhere.  I'd love to see something similar to it takes its place elsewhere in the park to make room in that spot, along with the removal of Invertigo and perhaps Timberwolf for a B&M dive machine.  I know some don't get all that excited for dive machines, and with Cedar Point getting their not all that long ago, I suspect KI would have to wait another 10 years or so, but that is an ideal location for a B&M dive machine.  Station back by the lift hill for  Congo Falls, hold/drop/dive facing out towards the entrance where Invertigo's lift hills, loop back towards the front of Invertigo/congo falls, loop around with some interaction with the plaza area, etc...  Just not sure there is enough room there for all of that w/o eating into Timberwolf's spot (which wouldn't be much of a loss in my mind)

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  12. I think you could do a bit of theming on all the older coasters.

    When they re-themed The Bat, I suggested that they take the bridge to SOB station and transform that to a cave looking entrance.  Made you feel like you were entering the jungle.  Could possibly even try and that bridge to a semi-local attraction down at Daniel Boone state park, the Natural land bridge.

    The Racers could be a good spot to redo the line area and add some pieces of KI history in there.  A sort of mini-hall of fame that you could switch up story boards every once in a while to keep it fresh.  I don't know if they still have it, but the recreation of The Shooting Star at the entertainment junction is awesome; doing a recreation of The Racers or The Beast in that que would garner some eye balls and add to the experience.

    BLSC has a ton of theming already; most don't like it, and I've suggesting switching it out from a Hollywood theme to a cincy-275 theme, but theming it has.


    Beast is OK, if they could get the water back on near the station, otherwise the working mock up of The Racers that I suggested earlier, but done for The Beast and its history would work great in that back que.

    Diamondback, I have no great answers for, but the ride just kind of exists.  Great ride, but they could add some sort of "story" similar to what Cedar Pointe has done with some of their coasters, perhaps play on that theming a bit to be the "down south" cousins, etc...

  13. The better plan would be to have it open in a limited capacity and sell the crap out of it as a conference center where businesses could hold meetings and their employees families could use the park during the day while the employee's sat thru morning meetings.  then everyone joins up for lunch and goes about their way to enjoy the park in the afternoon.  Seems like there would be/should be a market for that during the week.

    Then let the restaurant serve as a reservation only restaurant during the evenings and on weekends.   Could even clear it out for a reservation only "dessert and fireworks" special starting around 9:30.  How many families would want to take advantage of a nice ice cream sunday, cakes, pies, fudge, etc.... right before the start of fireworks.  Seems like that could be a money maker on a daily basis.

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  14. Oh my, so much for my hope that the victim was transported just to be closer to home.  That doesn't sound good at all.

    I'm sure this is being examined to determine if its a manufacturing defect or a maintenance issue (or perhaps both).  Seeing how the que line is in the middle of the ride and near the break area, I wonder if this incident will lead to future que lines being less interactive with the ride itself to avoid any potential future incidents

  15. Stunt coaster is a great family ride, and the type of coaster that KI needs more of.  I've mentioned several times that KI needs a nice intermediate coaster, something like fire chaser express that could accomadate the 44" height crowd and still appeal to the 48" and up crowd and especially the 30+ crowd that is taking their 44" height children to the park.  While stunt coaster is a 48" requirement, it fits a lot of the same gaps that fire chase express does.  fire chaser express is an awesome ride by the way.

    BUT (there is always a but), I agree that it is an eyesore.  Personally, I'd change the name to Cincy Stunt coaster, then theme the billboards and attractions to cincy are places and themes.  Perhaps one for mason, something in Northern Kentucky and Indiana, one of the billboards for LaRosa's or skyline, etc.... Perhaps not worth the costs, but make it more unique to the area, perhaps exchange out some of the cargo containers for replicas of area attractions.

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  16. I skimmed thru most of this, and I've mentioned this before, but I'd love to see the park (and Cedar Pointe as well) hook up with Schmidt's out of columbus.  Multiple type of sausages or side to choose from, plus one of their cream puffs to polish it off.  If only there were a German themed restaurant building to place them in.....


    Between Skyline, LaRossa's Greaters and Tom and Chee's....they have a nice mix of "local" and traditional fare to choose from.

  17. agreen browntggrr.

    We've been talking about a boo blaster reboot for at least as long as I've been here, and probably well before then :) 


    Ironically, just looked at my registered date, and it was 2011, so happy 10 years to me, but perhaps we haven't been talking about a reboot of boo hill for that long. Then again, people were probably talking about a reboot back to phantom theater when boo Blasters go rethemed back in 2010.


    anyhoo, its time.  I'm happy with the concept, just needs improved functionability and theming.

  18. Finish retracking and repaint The Racer, ideally with the original scheme, but just repainting it white would be satisfactory.

    Redo boo blasters (I'm actually fine with the attraction concept, just needs revamped, refreshed and consistently working guns).  I know many want a return to phantom theater, which would be great, but I have trouble envisioning that going thru.  I'd actually prefer a boat ride like they had years ago, but don't see that as possible either.  Kids love boo blasters, so here's my idea:  most important, all the guns need to work and work well.  Revamp all the rooms to a different background.  Pay some homage to phantom theater and even previous incarnations like the smurf boat ride (if possible w/o infringing on trademark licenses) at various points.  Load up on easter eggs that pay homage to the parks history, present and perhaps even future.  Make several items in each room easily interchangeable so that each day the ride is slightly different than the last.  Even better if it could be done automatically while the ride is operating, but that would seem troublesome with each room constantly in vision of one or more cars.

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  19. I haven't been to near as many parks as a lot of people on here, but on my 1 visit to ValleyFair, I wondered why that park received so little love.  We did not originally plan to attend, but on a trip up that way to visit my wife's family, we found out that my wife's cousin was going to be there at the same time we were swinging thru Minneapolis, so we altered plans and met him and his kids there.  Obviously, the attendance numbers must be lower otherwise it would receive more love from CF.  Minneapolis is a huge city in its back yard, but i suspect the Dells pull a lot of the would be Wisconsin population away from an annual visit or two.  Lots of Iowa and South Dakota plates in the parking lot but neither are huge population centers.

    Anyhoo, Mystic Timbers is my favorite ride at KI, I like Renegade a tad bit more than Mystic (though perhaps some of that is because it was my first CGI and I had 0 idea of what to expect; it blew my son and I away).

    wild thing has a great first drop, fantastic air time hill on the 2nd hill, and solid set of bunny hills at the end, unfortunately the middle section takes away a lot from the ride.

    Maybe give some TLC to High Roller, add in a decent invert and a modern looping coaster (I think their version of corkscrew is the only looper out there and well we all know how those bang you around) and you would have a very solid set of coasters.  throw in some decent flats (not a bad set of flats last time I went, though flats are not my thing as I can't do a bunch of spinning things) and you'd be cooking.  Don't know if the area would support that kind of investment or not.

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  20. Random thoughts....

    Peanut characters used to (perhaps still do) roam around the tower for their show on that small stage by the fountains.  A peanut parade to "open" up the park could be a good idea, help lead the kids back into Planet Snoopy.

    The animal farm......it stinks, literally.  I don't know how popular that is, but that is a big area devoted to animals that do what animals do (and often cleaner than their human counterparts) but causes an unpleasant order.

    My plan...

    Reboot Boo Blasters... Concept is good for kids, but need fresh targets and guns that consistently work.  Take the other half of the building, or at least part of it to leave some room for storage and turn it into an indoor playground, foam ball shooter area.  ValleyFair has one and it was a great place to cool off while kids could run around and have fun.

    Remove Whirly Birds.  I'm thankfully it was never a huge draw for my kids.  Ride was hot, the pedals never seemed to do anything, lines were long and slow.  I'd take this area and create your indoor dining area here.  Probably need to relocate the Snoopy Boutique as well.

    There seems to be a bit of a dead area next to the Linus Launcher, plus in that area you are close to rivertown and rides that get you wet.  Remove the snack shack in that area to again open up that path, then in the dead area (behind the fence with the peanuts pictures) I'd do some sort of aqua feature/maze/splash area thing that the kids could run around in and cool down.

    Finally, I'd remove the snoopy junction train ride, plus the Peanuts off road rally and the petting zoo, old stage and add a couple of small rides to compliment the beetle bugs (wooden ship, or hot air ballon type rides like Cedar Pointe has plus a new family coaster aimed at the 42" or 44" crowd.  Ideally, a fire chaser express clone, but something that helps bridge the gap between Woodstock express and Adventure Express that only FAAC seems to fill.  With the sit down dining expeirence, that would leave room to relocate a few of the snack shacks they have scattered around, some of which are rarely open to open up more space perhaps even add a new building that could help faciliate Picnic Groove's need (or enhance what they do back there, I've never been)

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