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  1. 6 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

    Highly doubt we are getting a coaster in 2023. With covid and CF spreading out new large investment project timelines, it'll probably be 2024 until we start to see anything. Plus, we are still the latest CF park to install a new coaster (until next year with tumbili opening at kd). I think CP, Knott's, Carowinds, and Canada's Wonderland get a coaster before KI does. Just my opinion

    Like I said, don't read too much into it

  2. This is a stretch so do with it what you will but could 2022 be the start of a construction year? I know it sounds dumb to tease construction a year before ground is broken, that's why its a stretch. The only reason I say this is because lately, the park has had coaster related construction start two years after a coaster is built: Banshee debuted in 2014 then two years later on 2016 there was land clearing for Mystic Timbers, Mystic Timbers debuted in 2017 with land clearing for Orion beginning in 2019, Orion debuted in 2020 and this poster is referring to 2022 meaning something coaster wise would debut in 2023. 

    Like I said don't read too much into this, the numbers just seem to match up to what's been happening the past few years. I'm personally not getting my hopes up for anything coaster related since our 50th is next year so I'd rather focus on that than a construction project.

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  3. Getting back to the topic, I feel like any park in the chain's "big four" could receive one. I'd even throw in Kings Dominion.


    Ironically, Kings Island is the one park I would think would be the least likely of the five parks I just listed to get one. We're missing that traditional looper and I feel like spinners aren't for everyone. Kings Dominion needs a stand out coaster which an extreme spinner definitely is. Carowinds is always in talks of getting something big but with them getting Copperhead Strike it would be unlikely that they would get something else from Mack so soon. Canada's Wonderland needs more support coasters and more launched coasters so I feel like one would fit there well. Cedar Point is always adding new, exciting, coasters so a record breaking spinner would certainly turn heads but I don't think they would be ready for one any time soon. 

    In my opinion:

    1. Kings Dominion
    2. Canada's Wonderland
    3. Cedar Point
    4. Kings Island
    5. Carowinds

    If Cedar Fair decided to get an extreme spinner I think it should go to Kings Dominion. It could be a first for the east coast and could give people more of a reason to go to the park after they've removed so many attractions.

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  4. 6 hours ago, rlentless said:

    I would love to see the water feature come back to The Beast.  I know there were issues with the pond/lake but maybe just enough to have to mill wheel run again.  The sound of running water just makes things more interesting.

    I heard there was a smell issue

  5. 14 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:

    If they add Thursdays and/or Sundays they’ll need to either do it right or don’t do it. 

    Define "right." I feel like their biggest issue is staffing which is a catch-22. You don't have as many staff on Thursdays therefore you can't have as many rides open but if you don't have a lot of rides open you're not bringing in a lot of people

  6. 5 minutes ago, PatchesC said:

    Eh sometimes I enjoy originality over an IP theme. IPs have to meet higher expectations than an original theme. 

    Also I noticed quite a few of the other top 10 include the activities with admission vs a big upcharge to experience with Uni or Disney. 

    No I completely agree. I prefer originality over IPs, I'm merely arguing that IPs can give an unfair advantage.

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  7. 11 hours ago, super7 said:

    Planet Snoopy is run down.   Hardly and trees.   No quality dark ride. Poorly themed to the same handful of characters    It doesn’t deserve an award.  

    Orion was built for the 300 ft marketing but they only built 3/4 of a ride.  Not deserving. 

    Overall it’s not a very nice park.   It feels dated, total lack of shade.   Cedar Fair budget cuts are obvious this year.   It’s sliding back into the Paramount days. 

    I mean Planet Snoopy won Best Kids section for nearly 20 years. I believe they're focusing back on Planet Snoopy in the coming years.

    Orion is a completely different story. Read @KIghostguy's book and you'll understand.

    I don't understand the dated part. The park spent a ton of money renovating International Street, the Eiffel Tower is being repainted, they restored the glockenspiel at the Festhaus, brought back an antique car ride, I could go on. We did have a global wide pandemic that affected spending across the chain. The lack of shade part I can understand but the rest seems a bit exaggerated considering everything we've gotten under Cedar Fair.

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  8. 12 hours ago, coaster sally said:

    Halloween horror nights is an upcharge event and it didn't even win USA today's contest.


    I partially feel like there's a certain "weight" to that stuff. HHN is run by Universal, a movie company, so they have access to IP and certain cinematic elements at their disposal. Not that HHN isn't a good event, in fact I'm arguing the opposite... I feel like their event is guaranteed to be good.

    I mean look at this


    I don't know if their use of IPs gives them an unfair advantage or not.

  9. Taft/KECO, Paramount, and Cedar Fair have all been owners of KI. I'd like to get some of your opinions on some of the best and worst decisions made by each owner. Basically I want a best and worst for Taft/KECO, a best and worst for Paramount, and a best and worst for Cedar Fair.

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  10. The more operating days part is spot on. Thursday Haunts would help increase attendance. The main reason why extended seasons are hard is because of the rapid change in weather our region faces. KI doesn't have a ton of rides that can operate regardless of the season or weather. I feel like if the park had at least one more dark ride, more people would be willing to go because its an inside ride. Would that get us to 4 million? Not necessarily but it would help.

  11. On 8/22/2021 at 8:36 PM, DoomPlague said:

    I've been wondering about the weight of the different trains available. If the train is light enough, it won't wear on the track as much and theoretically you could let off on the trims. You would need to anyways since less weight means it loses speed more quickly. The Beast is heavily trimmed, so I wonder how well a lighter train would do without any trimming at all?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe MFs are lighter than PTCs so that would require less trims. Imagine riding The Beast on Millennium Flyers without trims, I would be in heaven

  12. 40 minutes ago, MDMC01 said:

    If B&M could do it, it would be cool to revive that concept. Anyone on here know how good/bad the capacity was for SFMM's Flashback?

    According to RCDB it had a capacity of 1,100 riders per hour, which if you want a comparison is 100 people per hour less than The Bat's capacity.

    In theory this capacity could be increased if you added more block zones before and after the station to allow more trains. I think if they could get rid of the pain people experienced it would be a cool, clonable concept that would be reminiscent of what Premier did with their Spaghetti Bowls.

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