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  1. 1 hour ago, CorkscrewMcPuke said:

    Given how little strain it puts on the tracks, I don't see it going anywhere any time soon. It's not practical to tear out a reliable, popular ride like that. One thing I can see them doing is restyling it. I don't think that would be too difficult with how compact it is.

    I always felt like if they kept it, pretty the area up and add some stuff surrounding it

  2. 1 hour ago, Winterfestguy said:

    Just my opinion but with three separate injury incidents (2004, 2016, and now 2021) unlikely to reopen for 2022 season as well and may even be destined for removal (all depending upon any lawsuits and/or trials)

    I could see them attempt to "modify" the coaster before they would think about removing it. Red Force has LSMs so that might be an option Cedar Point could explore. Something is going to have to change to this ride. I know there were cable issues in 04 and 16, and while the launch wasn't directly the cause of the 2021 incident, it might be a safe bet that the ride's intense acceleration and immediate declaration might compromise certain parts over time.

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  3. 2 hours ago, Browntggrr said:

    It would be interesting to see the breakdown of each entities' seasonal park vs. year round parks as well as the breakdown of each park that was not able, opened late or could not open 100% due to the pandemic. 

    I was going to say, Sea World and Six Flags have more year round properties and extended seasons than we do. 

    If Cedar Fair had a larger year round property they would get in more revenue.

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  4. Going back to TTD-

    If the train component struck the woman I believe they would be able to deduce it rather quickly by just seeing what part is missing. The ride goes 120mph so any number of parts can come lose. My questions would be how long was that train on the track before the incident happened? Was it running from when ride opened for the day or was transfered on later? Was it a part of the train that's difficult to access by maintenance crew? 

    I feel like Cedar Point would at least be able to answer those questions but like others said, they're probably opting to say nothing at this time.

  5. 20 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

    I would hope GCI could make longer trains than the 12 car trains they normally do on Flyers though if they get their hands on Beast. 

    You are able to spread out more on flyers. To match The Beast's current capacity the flyers would have to have 18 rows.

    Hypothetically speaking, if The Beast was overhauled, I'd like to see if they could modify the track to not require as many trims without compromising its length.

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  6. 42 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:

    Not intending to speculate, but logically the family’s silence is under the strict advice of an attorney. 

    Exactly. Also I don't think the family is biting their tongues, itching to tell the whole world the condition of this woman. That's not exactly the attention you want for your family, no less the person who was injured.


    6 minutes ago, coaster sally said:

    and now the Columbus dispatch


    Media should know by now that Tony Clark only speaks when things are going great. 

    I mean that's the job of a park spokesperson, they can't really elaborate any further on something like this at this time. I'm sure CP's legal team is making sure they don't say anything yet until the Department of Agriculture finishes their investigation.


    I don't exactly know what people expect CP to say at this point.

  7. 37 minutes ago, coaster sally said:

    I feel the maintenance or lack there of is a good story.

    It is, but if nothing more is being said at this time then its hard to report on a story any further. Sure they can talk about the subject of maintenance, but that's all they'll really be able to discuss about the ride itself until the family makes a statement. I'm sure the Department of Agriculture will release information about their own investigation at their choosing but until that happens, discussions about the ride's upkeep are purely speculation unless another credible source provides information.

  8. 23 minutes ago, coaster sally said:

    Maybe because all the other Intamin Accelerator coasters never shut down after the incident.  Looks as if CP is at fault.

    I said nothing about Intamin in the above post. I was saying that without any more information from the family or the victim herself, its hard to further report on a story which would upset any member of the media trying to get more information.

  9. 6 minutes ago, jsus said:

    However what?  You're not disagreeing with me.  I'm not going to speculate on the family's silence since no conclusions can be drawn from it.  I wish the media would stop throwing tantrums that they can't ID and harass them.

    I must have read your post wrong, my apologies. 

    I agree the media is upset because this is a major story that they can't really report any more on until the family makes a statement.

  10. 3 minutes ago, jsus said:

    Like I said, we can't really draw conclusions from that.  I certainly wouldn't want to be constantly pestered when my family was trying to recover, heal, and figure out the legal aspect.  It's just that typically you do hear from those involved in similar situations, as much as there are situations "similar" to this.

    That's true, however her condition might dictate the family's (and their lawyer's) willingness to publicly speak about her condition. We don't know what condition she's in so its hard to speculate.

  11. Before I'm met with pitchforks and torches.

    The Beast is over 40 years old now and as the longest wooden roller coaster in the world, (3rd longest coaster in the world), it shows its age at times. Would it be beneficial to close The Beast for a season, (or part of a season), to completely overhaul it? GCI came in and worked on Ghostrider at KBF and I've heard people love it. We also brought in GCI to do some work on The Racer. Maybe some new trains?

    I'd like to hear some feedback

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  12. I do wish that the ride was somewhat altered when the Paramount team was cut. For example the Cincinnati Billboards would have been a really cool idea and could have been implemented at Kings Dominion and Canada's Wonderland with their respective local cities. 

    I had an idea for a complete retheme that would keep the same layout but change the scenery. Basically I would make Backlot Stunt Coaster themed to fighting fires, I know original, where the trains are emergency vehicles and they're going to stop a fire. During the mid course you would see the helicopter redecorated to look like and EMS or fire department helicopter and you drive straight into the quote on quote burning building. It was something that I would like to create in No Limits 2 but it takes a more creative mind than mine to do that 

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  13. Earlier, I said that mini dives can do a lot more than your standard dive coaster. Your standard 8 and 10 person seaters require a lighter track which limits how long the ride can truly be if you have to keep something under budget. The 6, and now 7, across seating utilizes standard B&M track so the layout can be more creative.

    Anymore most people ride dive coaster is for the dive. I think a lot of amusement parks are realizing that they can make a coaster a lot smaller and still be able to market the dive aspect. Basically on standard Dives the height of the dive is the main focus with the rest of the layout being not so original. With mini dives it seems like its the opposite where as long as you have a dive, you're able to cut down on the height allowing for a more unique layout.

    Also as mentioned earlier by @Shaggy, this coaster looks like it has some moments of intensity.

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  14. 1 hour ago, Kenban said:

    I think Cedar Point will reopen TTD.  But I hate to say it’s time for them to learn from Six Flags and move or enclose the queue.  Also close the viewing area or add additional barriers between the viewing areas and the launch.  I personally think a plexiglass wall which extends several feet over the top of the launch and then angles out over top of the track would be enough.

    I couldn't agree more. I'm sure the lawyers see it as a liability at this point. They'll probably get some type of audit. If the que isn't enclosed or more barriers added, I could see the que being relocated.

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