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  1. There are detailed posts in the other thread going into details from a financial standpoint why they may stay closed (as well as a growing list of non-financial reasons why too). The TL:DR version is there comes a certain date that after that point it will financially not make sense to open this year and simply make passes valid for 2021...I encourage you to go over and read that thread if you want the details...
  2. Well what did you expect - the video also had Vortex in it; Racer running backwards, and Soak City on the north end of the park
  3. We have to remember that Cedar Fair is a publicly traded company and that affects the type and timing of their communication...so they have their reasons...even if it is an inconsistent message to those that follow the chain closely...
  4. I am sure their is so much legalize they can do as the please... and based on all current announcements as of today, according to this a platinum pass is not a platinum pass and is based on where you purchased, so a Knott's platinum is extended through 2021 but based on today's announcement the other parks platinum is not...
  5. I posted this in the other thread too since we have two going...
  6. I will just leave these here...current changes on Knott's webpage...
  7. An argument can be made for either case...and one's life experiences and job experiences and dealing with these types of things can certainly play into one's bias on what the interpretation is. A banker or anyone working in an associated line of business will believe the interpretation is as the banks are doing... The right approach is probably just suspend and push the end date....BUT if they do not extend the passes good thru 2021, then potentially this opens up where someone has two monthly payments come August - one for the 2020 pass they are still paying on for however many months AND a new payment plan for renewing for 2021...
  8. That has not been made clear...they could do as some banks are...until they issue a clarification statement, we do not know if they are pushing your payment plan end date by however many months they are suspended or if you will have to "get current" and your payment end date remains the same...and let's hope they don't go the route of the banks and charge interest for this "loan" during the suspension...
  9. And to muddy the wording even more, they state "Once the park has opened for the season, billing will resume. Passholders will need to be current on payments in order to receive 2020 Season Pass admission and associated benefits." "Passholders will need to be current" could mean two different things? It could mean if you were current when they suspended payments, then you are current once it resumes and your payment plan is simply extended for however many months the suspension was....or it could mean that if payments are suspended for example 3 months, that you would need to pay for all 3 months when payment resumes in order to be current... They haven't specified if this suspension is moving your ending payment date by the number of months the plans are suspended or if your ending payment date stays the same and you lump sum pay for the months missed while the plan was suspended... Some banks are doing this...homeowners say Wells Fargo, Bank of America and Chase have told them they have to repay those postponed payments – known as forbearance – in a lump sum. It's an unexpected demand they fear could put them deeper in debt as millions are laid off and watching their retirement savings plunge with the stock market. This is a big difference and has serious implications depending on what their intent is...
  10. See the other thread "Coronavirus impacting theme parks" for discussions about how this impacts platinum passes potentially starting on page 47... Should this thread be combined with the other one?
  11. For those that missed it on page 44, or didn't bother to read it because you only have a KI gold pass so it wasn't applicable to you yet, here is a summary of my thoughts on what this means and a potential unintended consequence, disparity in the works.... Since they did not announce a chain-wide offer that Knott's provided, that could mean CF believes that the remaining parks could still potentially open with enough days left in the year to make up for missed days! Or it could simply mean that Cedar Fair is a publicly traded company and that affects the type and timing of their communication...and after enough days will be missed than cannot be made up, we get the announcement... IF for some reason CF is able to open their parks this year and not have to extend season park gold and regular passes through the 2021 season, they have potentially just created unintended consequences of their Knott's announcement... What are these unintended consequences you may be asking yourself? Well, a platinum pass is a platinum pass. So Knott's announced platinum passes are now good thru the 2021 season. If the Knott's announcement doesn't go chain-wide, that now creates a disparity since your gold pass for KI is only valid for 2020, yet your friend that bought a platinum pass same day as you now gets in for 2021 as well... One could argue CF could say that a 2020 platinum pass is only valid for 2021 season at Knott's or the 2021 season is only valid to platinum passes purchased at Knott's, but that then opens up a whole new set of issues associated with a platinum pass, from internal legacy admissions software issues that may not be able to deal with this issue, to creating a disparity based on where one purchases a platinum pass, etc...in this case not all platinum passes are created equal...
  12. I know it has been said before, but we really enjoy you sharing these bits of history of the park!
  13. Exactly! Line jumping happens when you are shoulder-to-shoulder in line...imagine the temptation if there is six feet between everyone for someone to jump... And now that people are realizing (shocking I know) that this virus is airborne, think about when someone is smoking in line. Think about how many times you have smelled tobacco or pot smoke in line or walking around the park. Many times you are looking around trying to see who is doing it. Essentially, we are inhaling the contents of their lungs. If they are sick with this virus, guess what... I have seen someone in line very politely inform a guest that smoking is not allowed in line, and the smoker tells them to go F off. I have seen an employee kindly tell a guest smoking is not allowed in line and the guest screams the employee is racist and picking on them and creates a big scene. More times than not unfortunately, in my experiences the offending smoker shows an attitude even if approached nicely...Imagine now what could happen in line if someone is smoking...
  14. Not the tropics, but we had an Australian theme for awhile...with a pirates boat in the kiddie portion lol
  15. I assumed you would have those for your stats sheet in the book and would tell us to wait until the book comes out
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