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  1. 1 hour ago, Orion-XL200 said:

    I mean, can't be too hard to put chicken tenders, burgers, fries on a list right? LOL. 



    But seriously, I would like to see what's available on Opening Day instead of having to visit each location to look at the menu.

    They’re busy trying to figure out what to up-charge us. Salt and pepper on your burger sir? $1.29 please. :P

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  2. 1 hour ago, DispatchMaster said:

    No, but a single visitor is at least as likely, if not moreso, to produce positive ROI per than a pass holder. So, while a non-pass holder visits less frequently, they tend to spend far more per visit, and because each visit by a guest incurs a cost to the park, the profit margins for a non-pass holder are higher. 

    In other words, pass holders are not the most desirable customer, and certainly aren't as important as some assume they are.

    I mean, just look at it from a value perspective. The more of a value someone is getting out of a pass, the less positive ROI the park is realizing from that customer.

    Yes, and we both agree and came to that conclusion last time this subject was brought up, but that is ONLY the single day visitor. 

    But on the topic of passholders and their importance. Do you think Kings Island which is not a destination park with hotels like Cedar Point, Universal, or Disney could survive with just single ticket holders? I'm in the camp of that wouldn't be the case. Last year on multiple occasions single day tickets were reduced, sometimes as low as $20!

    Just based off the numbers a ticket right now to get in plus parking, is around $75. A gold pass is in the ballpark of $150. So, for every individual passholder the money they spent is equivalent to 2 single day visitors. Kings Island does not have the market area to make that up if people only visited once a year, and they certainly wouldn't be getting anywhere near the number of visitors in a season. And once you factor in the dining and drink add on's being eliminated. People would return to eating off site or in the parking lot.

    I think passholders are quite important.

  3. 1 hour ago, DispatchMaster said:

    This perfectly distills down the enthusiast/pass holder entitlement attitude. That anyone would think spending $500 for several months of something is more than trivial is deluding themselves. The annual visitor is almost always going to spend more than that on a single/few visit(s). Hell, we've spent more than that PER DAY on occasion, in addition to our passes. And I'm not bragging, as we are NOT wealthy, extravagant visitors. Just a middle class family that likes to splurge on vacations when possible. And the park is filled with people like us, visiting a few times per year while contributing vastly higher per caps than the pass holder who visits 4 times a week all summer.

    A single visitor is not going to outspend a season passholder if you factor in the entirety of the season. We've had this discussion previously. Also you elude to an annual visitor spending more than $500 for a single / few visits? I highly doubt that.  Unless we are talking about a visitor who is also staying in a park owned hotel / resort. Kings Island has no park owned overnight lodging options. And I'm willing to discuss that the average passholder is not visiting anywhere near as often you claim they are.

    More than likely CF prices their season passes based of how many times the average passholder visits VS an "enthusiast" is not your average passholder.

  4. 4 hours ago, Orion742 said:

    From the calendar it shows 6pm-12am starting Friday September 20th. Could that possibly be the start of Halloween Haunt? If so that’s a week earlier than usual and I’m all for it if that’s the case.

    1 hour ago, brenthodge said:

    Im fine giving up an hour on a few days if it gets a whole extra weekend. I think that probably a better use of payroll especially since the zoo is fully open by then

    The only downside with this early extra weekends means the park won’t have everything ready for opening Haunt / WF. 

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  5. On 4/6/2024 at 2:17 PM, BoddaH1994 said:

    I don’t know if you were “around” for this, but please jog my memory if you remember.

    In 2014, wasn’t the All Season Meal Plan originally advertised for being through Labor Day, then they back pedaled and made it actually all season? There might have been a few days between the policy changes (which is implied by the post you shared) but I’m pretty sure they changed it that year. 

    I was around, however I did not have the all season meal plan. So I honestly couldn’t tell you. I just remember how horrible the implementation was of it when it first came out. 

  6. 1 hour ago, BoddaH1994 said:

    By the way, as promised, here is the latest Tower Topics discussing the lessons learned from this latest antic: 

    https://linktr.ee/towertopics

    Great episode that highlights a lot of questions with the current direction of CF.

    It is true that a lot of it stems from communication and a lot of folks like to blame a certain individual here. However, folks should also realize that person is also relying off getting information from those of higher authority within the chain. Bureaucracy can be a Bee sometimes. I agree 2025 might be the year to hold off on going all in on a season pass. CF has historically been horrible at implementing new things. I anticipate post-merger of this to be any less different.

  7. On 2/17/2024 at 7:16 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

    Cedar Fair must be listening to our complaints involving the VIP areas. First Knotts opens a nice indoor lounge and now Kings Dominion is converting their country kitchen into their VIP lounge. Hopefully this is implemented at the other prestige pass parks as well.

    https://x.com/KingsDominionVA/status/1759006083320783286?s=20

     

    By "listening" you mean, people are not renewing their pass. :P

  8. 2 hours ago, disco2000 said:

    And sadly I don't think Anderson Township was sincere about really wanting to take over the pool that would be way oversized for their community.  I think if it went for a vote it would have failed.

    The township was not, they had the power to acquire the pool via imminent domain. 

  9. 3 hours ago, disco2000 said:

    All I have heard is they are looking into saving Moonlight Gardens, but I don't think they have committed to it.

    Irrelevant question now, but would the Coney lovers preferred they save the pool or the gardens?  Is saving the gardens, if they decide to do it, enough goodwill or was it the pool everyone wanted?

    At this rate the “Save Coney Islanders” are willing to die on the hill that is Sunlite pool. Yet the pool is a lost cause and the support for the still remaining structures should be the new focus.
     

    However these “Save Coney Islanders” really are just the “Save Sunlite pool” group that doesn’t want to work with CSO or MEMI about saving what’s left of the park. Sadly, there won’t be anything other than the gate left, when it’s all said and done with the current direction. Just point fingers and blame. However, there will still be people protesting on top of a shiny new blacktop where Sunlite pool once was.

     

  10. Late post, here is my trip report for my most recent trip to Orlando. I arrived in Orlando and spent the first day getting settled in. The next day I visited Epcot for their Flower and Garden Festival. 

    As far as the Flower and Garden Festival goes, the food was as one would expect from Disney. The decorations and gardening around the park to match the theme of the festival was much better than what they did for Christmas. 

    The following day I taken a break from amusement parks and enjoyed an ECHL game of the Jacksonville Icemen vs the Orlando Solar Bears. Being an interstate matchup made for great play and scuffles. ;) 

    One thing I really enjoyed about this matchup was not having any emotional attachment to either team. Therefor there was no stress on my end. I highly suggest anyone who has a love for any sport to do the same. 

    The day before my flight out, I spent the day at Seaworld Orlando and participated in the Seven Seas Food Festival.

    Between the 40% discount voucher for merchandise, free feeding tray for the sharks, and a single use quick queue that I got to use this visit. Seaworld & Busch Gardens go to great lengths to show appreciation to their passholders. This was even further exemplified when they provided an additional 3 tastings to pass members who participated in the festival.

    For the festival one thing I've noticed as a change from this year from the previous is they increased the portions and provided a better variety of food options. My favorite meal by far was the Moroccan lamp chops, with garlic mashed potatoes and tzatziki sauce.

    Overall, this was a great trip to get out of the cold weather of Ohio. 

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  11. I chalked up the 2023 season as Chef Perez's rookie season, a season for him to get comfortable in his position then with this season he'd spread his wings and showcase his true culinary talents. If what we are seeing is more of the same. Basically, comfort food as the only options provided, I don't see why the park would keep him around. I've never met or seen an "executive chef" working at Skyline, Larosa's, Panda Express, or other similar comfort food restaurants the park provides outside of the park. 

     

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  12. 18 hours ago, mikejenkins1 said:

    They need to bring steak.  I hear we have the only one without it.

    Enrique’s has “steak”. However, none of our BBQ restaurants have Brisket, like the BBQ restaurants at the other parks.

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