Posts posted by gforce1994
On 3/18/2023 at 5:47 PM, Captain Nemo said:
I recently visited Busch Gardens Tampa with my 360 camera on a wrist strap and rode each coaster with it, capturing some of the best footage no park ORP could even imagine capturing. The park allows this with some rules that you must follow such as the type of harness/straps/mounts you must use. But it was very easy, I felt safe riding with the camera. Makes me wish that other parks including CF would do this and hope one day Cedar Fair adopts this policy.
As far as I know the Disney and Busch/SeaWorld parks allow POV'ing. Disney being the most lenient in policy.
I didn't see an issue with the policy at Busch, Not many people took advantage of it and I was one of 2 people in the park doing this.
No, it’s unsafe. Riders or people off the ride will get hurt. Just leave it to the park.
Loose articles are a very serious issue. There was a case a few years ago where a lost article hitting a guest caused them to completely lose their eye.
They’ve always used phrases like that. Mystic Timbers - will open in Spring: https://www.fox19.com/story/34196703/construction-taking-shape-on-kings-islands-mystic-timbers/?outputType=amp
Antique Cars - no estimation: https://www.wlwt.com/amp/article/kings-island-s-antique-cars-have-arrived/23887842
You must remember that with Midways like Valravn’s Midway, that was paved in less than a week.
The verbiage being used is for families that are scheduling trips to the park.
8 hours ago, KIghostguy said:
Not that I’m aware of, I think they’ve just said “spring.” But I seriously doubt it will be open, or at the very least finished.
End of January 2015
Middle of February 2015
Granted the flying scooters needed more installation time because of their unique connections between vehicles and structure, but the park is fine.
The rides being installed are designed to be set up in days.
26 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said:
Then could you talk about a drone post AND name the source but just not actually post the drone pictures or footage on here? Or could you just be very general about the source (like saying I saw a drone picture or footage online). I have seen a lot of users on here saying stuff like “I caught wind that Kings Island has done this” or “O heard Kings Island has done that” when, in reality, they aren’t giving a very specific source. I feel like saying something like “I saw something online and it looks like Adventure Port…” is no different if not even more descriptive of a source.
No, that is still promoting the acts that we deemed illegal by the TOS. There is no loophole, what the mods wrote originally rules both situations as violations.
3 hours ago, silver2005 said:
I never thought I'd see the day where TPR was irrelevant, but here we are.
TPR is not irrelevant. They’ve just put their efforts in a different area. They still do a lot of promotional work.
2 hours ago, standbyme said:
@gforce1994 Yes I agree, that many 1 Star ratings does not look good…but I would venture to say that a lot of them are from when they first opened. The whole COVID situation put them behind schedule….things weren’t ready…they cancelled reservations, and even when they opened everything still wasn’t ready…I remember they were getting severe hate!
They’ve constantly gotten one star reviews. It’s the same story of management not being responsive to guest needs.
2 hours ago, standbyme said:
The vast majority of them give it a positive review. I have stayed there around 6 times…I can agree that they are still trying to get some issues worked out…but I have never had anything even remotely dirty.
While a majority of the ratings is above 3 stars, it’s bad when the number of 1 star reviews approach the number of 5 star reviews.
When you look at the reviews for the other CF hotels/campsites, it is clear that Camp Cedar fell way below expectations.
If you look at Google’s listing of reviews, many claimed the resort was dirty and not at the quality they expected. The criticism with guests came back and hurt KI’s bottom dollar, as a displeased guest is less likely to spend money.
I’ve always thought they should have used the old Inn site and build a hotel like Springhill Suites. Would have worked much better than the campsite.
9 hours ago, Browntggrr said:
I had 3 family members take in their insulin & other medical items this past weekend & the previous weekend and had zero issue.
This bag drama has been influenced by social media grandstanding. Anytime someone starts screaming "ADA!" there is more fiction to their story than reality.
Just because one group had a different experience, it doesn’t negate the experiences of others. Numerous people with medical conditions have been stopped at security and ordered to return their medical equipment to their own car, which would fall under an ADA violation.
Did a little experiment. At Carowinds, one is only allowed to bring in medical supplies that are in a bag smaller than 6.5”x4”. I went through the thread and put the two items that would be important for Diabetics - glucose meter and glucagon. Those supplies were too big, and under Carowinds’ policy, I would have to return them to the car.
3 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:
If your supplies fit in the 12x12 bag, what is the issue? Seriously, how many infusion sets fall off? How many sets does one need? And several sets of glucose tablets can easily fit in pockets, along with cell phone to control pump and CGM.
Most families of four spending $200 to get into KI will come on a Saturday or Sunday. 12-14 hours in the park vs 6? It's a no brainer. So they have all day before 6 to come and go to their car and can bring in the big bag at 530.
People often tend to make things more complicated than needed.
The issue is security is not letting those supplies into the park, which is required by law. They’re preventing people from bringing in diabetes equipment, epi-pen for allergies, and other equipment.
The thing is many of us were ordered by our doctors to keep the supplies and equipment by us at all times. The park is basically refusing to allow admission to those with medical supplies. Basically, those with medical conditions are placed into dangerous situations, all because the park wants to keep the security lines as efficient as possible.
14 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:
Since this policy is not unique to KI, I conjecture that Cedar Fair had legal aspects looked into before implementing this, and probably modeled this on policy by other venues that host events with a large attendance.
As I have said before, infusion sets, CGMs etc. are not emergencies. Hypoglycemia, if untreated will be. That is why it's incumbent to carry glucose tabs. If one it to go low, treat with them and if not resolved, leave the line and go get something to eat at one of the many eateries/drinks stands that would love to serve you.
Again, I can't speak for the park, but I would think they would be reasonable. Perhaps with a visit to GS or FA, arrangements could be made for a vehicular transport to a person's vehicle to get the infusion set, after both the initial set comes off, then the replacement that fits in the bag guidelines. Or the glucose tabs after all the tubes that fit in pockets have been exhausted.
But I have never had to use glucose tabs at the park. And my CGM stayed intact, and back when I used a pump, I never had a need to replace my infusion set.
And then again, if someone with a medical condition required a rolling suitcase full of supplies, they can enter the park before 6pm without being affected. Or, with the cooler weather, wear a jacket that has numerous zippered pockets after 6 pm.
I'd be curious to know what you consider is the standard amount of supplies many T1Ds carry.
I carry a standard amount of supplies in a book bag that could easily fit within the SF policy of a 12”x12” bag. The issue is that security is not allowing people to take in their medical supplies (glucagon, infusion sites) that could be dropped off at First Aid. Furthermore, if one leaves their supplies out in the car, the no re-entry policy prevents them from re-entering the park.
Say I was part of a family of four that spent $200 to go to KI. Infusion site pops out after one ride. Family goes out to car to get supplies that they were ordered to leave out there by park’s security staff. New site gets put in, only to have the family find out that they can’t re-enter the park. That is happening numerous times, and it’s a darn shame.10 hours ago, teenageninja said:
More security theatre that is not going to prevent anything. Look at what happened at Kennywood, someone still got a gun in with all of these "policies."
Unfortunately, the people who are working the front gate aren't going to be empathetic, it makes their job easier to just say "no" if the bag is over the size.
I'm on the Fan Council at UC and we had a similar issue going into this season. They implemented someone who's job is to approve the different medical devices.
As for the bags in the park. They aren't worried about what you have on you once you get into the park. In fact, they'd prefer that you stuff that cinch bag with merchandise.
Unfortunately, letting the security guards decide what constitutes a “medical condition” has gotten the park into the awful mess.
So here’s the gist of what happened. The park has asked the security teams to enforce a no-bag policy with no medical exceptions. The initial policy is sent to the security, and asked to carry out this impossible task. From what is being said on Facebook, this has been collaborated by numerous individuals.
As the witness stated, this is in violation of the ADA.
Policy gets refined for medical exemption. The new policy becomes:Quote
BAG POLICY: To increase safety and provide efficient entry into the park during Haunt, guests will be asked to adhere to a new policy which states that no bags of any kind larger than 6.5" × 4.5" × 2" may be brought into the park after 6:00 PM on Haunt nights. All bags will be subject to search.
Medical exceptions can be made with security supervisors.
Problem soon becomes that medical exceptions are granted by security supervisors on the basis of what they deem is a proper medical exception. That means that someone who doesn’t have any knowledge of medical conditions is now the one in charge of determining whether you can bring in medical supplies.
On the first night of Haunt I was prevented from entering the park by supervisors, who thought I had way too many “diabetes supplies”. They told me that they were going to go through my medical bag and tell me what I was allowed and not allowed to bring in. I was only allowed to bring in testing supplies, a few tabs, and forced to leave most of my supplies in the car.
Second night of Haunt, I got into a tense discussion with a supervisor who said to me that “diabetics don’t need that many supplies”. The amount of supplies I carry is standard to what many T1D carry, and was not excessive in any way.
Since then, I have not gotten held up in security due to my medical supplies. However, I’ve heard many who are held up and are refused park admission because they have medical equipment. Several members of this site witnessed what occurred and know first hand what the problems are. I am happy to discuss this with the park, but I feel that they are shutting down all discussion of it.
15 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:
If an infusion set gets removed prematurely, you replace it with the extra set you either have in your bag, or have left at first aid because Kings Island does allow for medical exceptions as previously stated. If you are hypoglycemic, you follow the guidelines of the Rule of 15. 15 grams of CHO, wait 15 minutes, recheck and treat again in 15 minutes. Hence glucose tablets that fit nicely in a pocket or small bag are quite effective as each tablet has 5 gm CHO. If the person is going down rapidly, there are literally food stands with sugary soft drinks that can be given. If they are more hypoglycemic than that, first aid/ambulance would be needed anyway and hopefully they learn how to better manage their condition. A failed cgm/infusion set is not an emergency. I can't speak for the park but I'm sure they can accommodate a larger bag with the intent of dropping it off at first aid or a trip to the car if a site falls off. Would be worth a visit to guest services to get a definitive answer .
As far as fragility of diabetic supplies...they are very sturdy. Insulin pens are made from plastic and are easily transported in pockets. Many pumps and cgms have apps that are Bluetooth connected to a cell phone, but if not, are made of a similar material and durable enough for everyday life.
Epi pen, I'm not familiar with, but what is standard procedure for these at other public places?
But, above all, as someone who has lived with T1D for over forty years, you define your life, the disease doesn't define you. You can enjoy a wonderful hobby and be safe without carrying a suitcase of supplies, cookies and soda everywhere you go. The only anxiety I have EVER HAD at a park is the fear of being stopped on a ride with no glucose tabs and a falling glucose level. That's why I determine my outcome by being safe and reasonable with what I need to be safe. I've been hypoglycemic and hyperglycemic at Kings Island and every other place I carry out my activities of daily living. Treat and move on.
First off, people are blocked from bringing in extra glucose, glucagon, and pump supplies. Basically, I was only allowed to bring in a few tabs and testing supplies as well as a charger (pump is controlled through the phone).
Secondly, if I did leave it in the car, one can’t re-enter the park due to the no re-entry policy the park has. Basically if one is a diabetic and they have been forced to leave supplies in the car, their night is over.
Other public places allow you to bring in all the medical supplies, as defined by federal law.
1 hour ago, Oldschool75 said:
Most medical supplies such as diabetic supplies and epi pens are not designed to be kept in pockets or high friction places where they could be crushed just by sitting down or bucked on. Most medical supplies are not designed to be transported in pockets.
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Absolutely. That opens a second line of questions. If someone had their life saving medical equipment in the pockets and it fell out of a ride, would the park shut the ride down until they found it?
I am not trying to be unreasonable, but I feel the park is making a dumb, avoidable mistake by enforcing the bag policy in this manner.
14 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:
Epi pens and insulin pumps both fit in pockets. I would think feminine products are free at first aid, but i could be wrong.
It's already been said that KI has made reasonable accommodations for needed medical supplies.
Yeah, but what happens if the pump site falls out, or someone has a hyperglycemic event without any additional supplies? They get extremely sick and possibly worse. Park policies that result in potentially dangerous situations for guests with medical conditions is a terrible policy.
Second, placing Epi-pens in pockets is dangerous as it may shatter or fly free.
KI has not made reasonable accommodations due to the fact they are not fully accommodating. People are not being allowed to bring in medical supplies.
28 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:
And social media is such a great piece of humanity.
It’s not a good idea to push this off. What they’re doing is wrong, as companies CAN NOT by law refuse service due to a person having medical supplies.
1 minute ago, CoastersRZ said:
I got to attend this event four time I believe. Once on the media preview, on opening night, once with my family, and then once, after volunteering at the park in food service, we were let go early because of light attendance and could enjoy the rest of the evening in the park.
I liked Santa`s Toy Factory in the Kings Island Theater. It is the same basic show as Tinker`s Toy Factory, except it had a few more scenes/songs and was slightly longer. They were requiring people get tickets for their selected show time because they thought that the show would reach capacity. This show is actually from the original incarnation of Winterfest that ran from 1982-1992. I wish this would return to the KI Theater some day now and add in the additional songs.
The lighting ceremony was pretty cool with the firework going up to the top of the Eiffel Tower. I really enjoyed the story line and actors they had on the train, and wish they would do something like this with the train at the current incarnation of Winterfest, versus the 12 days of Christmas.
Overall, this 2005 version of Winterfest did not have as much live entertainment as what Winterfest has now. There were also not as many lights, less of the park was open, and there were fewer rides (and no roller coasters). Not to mention that admission was not included with your KI season pass. You had to pay extra to attend (I believe it was $18 or $19 per person with a season pass discount. Normal tickets were around $22 or $23 if I recall. I would that the current incarnation of Winterfest hands down. With maybe the train experience and Tinker`s toy factory from 2005 thrown in.
I believe Taxi Jam did open. I’ve heard stories of more adults than kids being in line for it.
1 hour ago, chad_1138 said:
Went last night and spoke with the associate working the lounge. He told my wife and I that the word among the associates is that there are talks of having the lounge in a permanent building next year. He agreed that he was upset about the removal of the bottled drinks. He also said that the word is that there may be fountain drinks next year. Again, take this with a grain of salt.
Also, lounge issues aside, I do have to say that we have enjoyed the heck out of our prestige pass FOTL ticket for Haunt night rides on The Beast.
I’m guessing I Street Restaurant. That’s where they came across all the history books being shoved up there.
7 hours ago, mikejenkins1 said:
I met up with a family with a disabled daughter and asked about their bag. Wasnt huge but it had medical supplies and it got tagged as ok. THey saw another bag get approved with medical supplies. So not so sure about this diabetes stuff being denied if in a bag. I am diabetic but choose not to bring my supplies. Also you could have the child/nursing house by the Eiffel Tower hold them.
Unfortunately, it seems that some of the security guards are projecting the “proper amount of supplies” on guests that need those supplies.
2 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said:
As someone who has lived with type one diabetes for 43 years, you really only need one thing immediately and that is glucose. A pack of glucose tablets and/or a tube of gel fits nicely in a pocket or the bag size they indicate. If you insulin pump infusion set comes undone, it's not an emergency. Neither is it an emergency if your CGM comes out. You don't need a suitcase full of cookies and candy. Most glucometers and supplies can fit in the small bag. Extra supplies can be left in the car. Or, check in with your small bag, go to guest service or first aid and get documents for leaving a couple extra supply set and insulin at the first aid building. It's not that hard or dramatic.
Except, the problem is that they’re saying that isn’t allowed in the park and people have to take it to their cars.
3 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:
It's not about the fridge, it is about the park selling a product promising drinks and taking it away after the fact.
If there were people abusing the drinks, then come up with a better solution than taking it totally away. Same with the one time Fast Lane pass. Don't make it harder for your most expensive pass holders to get the product they purchased.
It promised access to a VIP area. That is still being offered.
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I’m guessing it will look more like the Hungry Hippo rather than an Istreet restaurant.