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4 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said:
I think the blueprints are notable, but I don’t think we can draw any conclusions as to what they are for. The truss structure could be for the roof of any building for all we know. I honestly hope these blueprints are for a front gate renovation.
True, however, the roof truss structure doesn’t represent any roof we have in the park currently.
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In a recent video to KI’s YT channel, the park did a quick feature on its head of Maintenance and Construction. During the video, blueprints are shown in the video. The video show blueprints that are blurred out, except for a small section that shows a truss structure similar to what is seen in stations. Is the park planning a new ride?
The park has used similar teases to promote a new ride. A tweet in 2016 featured the turnaround for MT with a Starbucks cup nearby.
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3 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:
I think the point others are trying to make is; you see markers, some brush cut down, and some holes in the ground and jump to it's a new coaster. There is no entertaining any other ideas being a possibility.
Then you go and write an article representing said work as a coaster coming as fact. People start sharing the misleading information thinking it is coming true. Next the news starts calling the park, looking on KIC and contacting admins to see what is actually going on.
Then the park and KIC are forced to do damage control. There is a reason why KIC has a general discussion forum, a rumors forum, and a newsroom forum. Until we know something as fact from the park, I will never put an article out that is not true or misleading in the newsroom section of the forums.
I did not write an article saying a coaster was coming. The wing coaster concept was to visually show off the size of the site that the park was working with, from Timberwolf to the front gate.
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1 hour ago, BeeastFarmer said:
Calling the removal of some trees inside Timberwolf "land clearing" is being overdramatic. You want clicks on the website you prognosticate for. I guess it could be correct, but if that is the case, when I pull a weed from my garden, I have also been doing some land clearing.
"extremely overgrown" is overdramatic. The facility sees limited use. So, after about 15 months of non use, of course vegetative growth is going to be excessive. So would it be on Internationall Street, Coney Mall, Rivertown, Kings Mills Auto Mall or your residence. The flags and paint from last year are a moot point until further information comes forward.
Maybe they will demolish this section of the park, maybe they won't. Only time will tell. Your hypothesis may or may not be correct, but you act like yours is the only thing that can happen. Be reasonable.
There have been markers seen around Timberwolf since the middle of last year, the berms on the side have been removed, and the organizers of Spirit Song have laid off a good portion of their staff. The writing is on the wall for Timberwolf.
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1 hour ago, BeeastFarmer said:
Here we go again. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. But removing some trees off a berm does not equate to land clearing. Try...just TRY to not be overdramatic...please!
I’m not being overdramatic. I observed, made a rational hypothesis, and posted it.
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1 hour ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:
Yeah and there has really been nothing done to the area. Markers can mean more than a new coaster. Also, like said in the past, take any Coaster Nation article talking about construction at the park with a grain of salt unless there is clear land clearing going on like what we saw in 2008, 2013, 2016, and 2019. It'd be noticeable and there would be a decoding thread up by now.
However, there HAS been work done at Timberwolf over the last few weeks. Considering the facility is extremely overrun with grass, bushes, and shrubs along with a some activity observed in the area nearby dating back to last summer, what makes you think they are keeping Timberwolf, when there’s no certainty if there will be a Spirit Song next year?
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16 minutes ago, CoastersRZ said:
The placement would be curious if they are needed soil core sample locations. Orion’s maintenance track, station, and queue are all in the way. Unless they are testing to determine the soil bearing pressure to relocate one or some of the maintenance buildings located at the Front of Area 72 to free up room there for a new flat ride.
The thing is the bores are not in an arrangement that would indicate a building. The randomness of the bores screams a coasters. We have seen bores taken at KI in the past. At the beginning of the 2018 there were bores by the old Dinosaurs Alive attraction.
Bores are usually for deep foundations, so, that of in itself would rule out maintenance buildings.
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I’d assume a coaster or tall attraction. That appears to be bore holes, which are used for sites with large loading conditions.
It likely isn’t a flat ride, as a flat ride is spread out over an area using a spread footing.
The thing is the bores are not in an arrangement that would indicate a building. The randomness of the bores screams a coasters. We have seen bores taken at KI in the past. At the beginning of the 2018 there were bores by the old Dinosaurs Alive attraction.
Bores are usually for deep foundations, so, that of in itself would rule out maintenance buildings.
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14 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:
That’s what I was thinking too. Not sure if it was a natural frequency thing, but gforce would know that.
That’s exactly what I was referencing. The removal of the carriage led to the system having no dampeners.
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3 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:
If this was a CF park, I don't think they would be running it at all. So glad we are not ran by SIX.
This did happen at a CF park as well. A ride collapsed at CP due to natural frequency/resonance event.
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The ride entered natural frequency due to motor running with brakes being engaged. That’s a huge engineering oversight, and I wouldn’t be surprised if all the Zamperla frisbee rides would be shut down immediately until a fix is found.
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6 hours ago, Bansheeback said:
As others have said, I don't believe Timberwolf is taking up "Valuable Space". According to public records from the auditor, KI is only using about 50% of the land they own. I also wouldn't be a fan of them putting any sort of ride in that space considering its proximity to the parking lot. (See Scream at Magic Mountain)
Well, it’s cheaper fo tear down a structure and build on top of it, then it is to tear down a forest and build on top of it.
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1 hour ago, Benjamin22 said:
Neat idea but I think there are 3 major flaws with doing this at KI
1- The city of mason is way less dense then the San Francisco Bay Area. Because of this any entertainment area at KI would get way less foot traffic compared to CGA
2-there is no major tourist attraction nearby to attract visitors to this shopping area / entertainment area. Anyone visiting the mason for entertainment is already going to be going to KI. Compare this to CGA where a major football stadium is right next door to draw guests in
3- Due to generally favorable weather in the Bay Area the CGA entertainment area likely would be able to attract visitors to the outdoor venue year around compared to Ohio where the weather isn’t usually all that great. I agree having another source of revenue besides the park is a good idea (for example hotels, sports parks, golf etc) however the CGA model really just wouldn’t work at Kings Island
This. If anything, they’ll look towards filling in the unused space.
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2 hours ago, KIfan73 said:
I'd just like to say, as a long time member here, with everything that has been going on in the world recently, it is really great to see some good, old-fashioned Kings Island construction rumors/speculation going on!
The removal of the berm at Timberwolf has piqued my interest.
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Well, it appears the markers were not planted by the county, as the waterline was not given the go ahead. I guess it’s time to go back to square 1.
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1 hour ago, SonofBaconator said:
Once infrastructure is gone, its gone...
Timberwolf exists as a venue that can be used if and when the time comes that KI wants to have a concert or some type of event. If they tear down Timberwolf, they'll have no opportunity to host large concerts or events of similar size in the future. Its the similar equivalent of a sports team leaving a city- its rare that they come back. Look at Oakland. Much like the Haunt buildings that sit vacant for most of the year, they still serve a purpose.
I think it would be unwise to tear it down for something like a coaster; especially when @Hawaiian Coasters 325 created a concept that works
The Timberwolf is an remnant from another time. Nobody will book there, and it wastes valuable space. It would be smart for the park to demolish it and expand the park.
We know that the park is looking at that area of land as the waterline project, if it was even for that spot of land, hasn’t been approved by the city, so there would be no $$ available for surveying.
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2 hours ago, King Ding Dong said:
That very well me true. However the world is changing and it is certainly possible the music industry will continue to evolve especially during and after this pandemic. Live performances may very well shift back to promotional ventures as they used to be versus the profit centers they have become in the past 20 years. Meanwhile what is the point in demolishing a what is essentially a bunch of concrete if the park doesn’t need the space? Concrete is relatively low maintenance.
There’s no use for the structure. The organizers of Spirit Song are not holding an event this year, and have downsized their staff by a significant margin. With it being unused, there is no need to keep it, especially when the park can work towards future projects.
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There was an accident on the Manhattan Express today while testing the new cars. The train had a rollback and derailed on the lift hill.
I don’t think the coaster can be saved, as it appears the damage is quite extensive.
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31 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said:
I was preaching this for weeks and now that Cedar Fair will be operating that campground it would increase the need for a shuttle.
Nope, the drop off location would be the markers by the original drop off by the main marquee sign. From the pictures that were posted, it’s clear it’s for the drop off location.
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There’s now a potential covid fatality case linked to WDW.
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2 hours ago, Shaggy said:
Ed Hart doesn't care for coasters at all... well, riding them, that is. ;-) He liked what they did to help drum attendance.
However, as widely reported, KK did cancel their RMC Raptor. I can confirm they were going to get one. However, from what I've been told, there's a major jaw-dropping change brewing at the park that circumvented. Time will tell, stay tuned.
Yes, Screamscape is reporting it as well.
Markers at Cedar Point
in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
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Markers, but in an artistic photograph.