I have ridden 5 Mantis, Vortex(Carowinds), Georgia Scorcher, Skyrider and Shockwave. I loved the TOGO's I don't know why most people say they are death machines they are by far the best but Scorcher was good too. The thing about them is no one is willing to build them anymore. I believe if a stand-up was built now rather than the most recent being in 1999 they would be far better than the older designs. The reason they are dying is that no one is willing to bulid them anymore because of the unpopular designs of the 90's. Just my 2 cents.