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To those saying this can't be fake due to the time/details - you have no idea how far people will go. I've spent more hours on fake amusement parks than this would take.

They are close enough in theme that they can be interchanged if one falls through. The other may never be used like Centurion.

Yes, you can enter early for the ert rides.

It isn't exactly loyalty when you have members saying they won't renew their passes if this is our giga. I don't know why antique cars are enough and this giga isn't but whatever.

Think again...

You should be wary of trusting youtubers info. If I recall correctly this channel repeatedly claimed Yukon Striker would be a giga dive. I often wondered where these channels get their info until rumblings around Kings Island started piping up. I was dismayed to find much of it is from random posters on sites like these with no evidence provided.

You can help getting around the opinion debate with aggregation. Golden Ticket Awards 2018 puts Beast at #5 and Mystic at #11 in wooden coasters and Diamondback #10 and Banshee #29 in steel coasters. Worldwide those aren't bad rankings.

The faded chase effect was there last year, not sure when it was added. Unless there has been some change to it, haven't made it on FoF yet this year.

I don't have it but I believe it's just digital with some discounts on print stuff.

From what I could see they had well over 40 trains worth. Took me about 90 min to get on and they looked to have gone through about 2/3 of them. I counted around 18 boxes total.

That doesn't indicate Six Flags wanted it, just that they couldn't buy it. It also gives no indication if Six Flags would rebuild it or just scrap it for parts.

I doubt Six would want an old, maintenance heavy and inferior model while they already have one with significant problems. Do you have a source that shows Cedar Fair was selling it and Six was actually interested in buying? I could see them being interested in the parts.

I doubt Six Flags would buy the ride. When I was at Six Flags America one of their ride ops described Batwing as "Volcano broken."

The quote credits Mystic Timbers for most of the increase. I don't feel like dredging it up at the moment but didn't the park say they broke the attendance record or some record in late August? Edit: I may be mixed up about that year per a Cedar Fair press release. They did state that Mystic Timbers performed well: Commenting on the 2017 season to-date, Matt Ouimet, Cedar Fair's chief executive officer, stated, "We are pleased with the guest response to our 2017 capital programs. Mystic Timbers, our world-class roller coaster at Kings Island, and our water park transformations at Knott's Berry Farm and Cedar Point Shores have delivered attendance above our expectations. However, we have experienced more than a few instances of unfavorable weather on some of our traditionally peak attendance days – including the recent Labor Day weekend - and it has proven difficult to fully recover these attendance shortfalls up to this point in time. https://pointbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/cedar-fair-reports-attendance-and-revenues-through-labor-day-2

Have to agree here, just googling articles and all I see is how great the attendance is. Record attendance levels and almost constant growth. I don't get the "investments don't pay off at KI" argument, all the park announcements, earnings reports and estimates refute this theory. Just as an example - “It's a little bit of a tough pill to swallow the softness we've seen in 2018, but quite frankly the performance, if we just gauge it versus the last five or six years, it's still a very good year for that park,” he said. https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/mystic-timbers-attendance-gains-fading-for-kings-island- Despite the negative headline and the dip in sales it was still one of the best years of the past decade. Or how about this one? Attendance at Ohio's Cedar Point was flat in 2017, while Kings Island saw a 2.5 percent increase in guests, due largely to the debut of new roller coaster Mystic Timbers. https://www.cleveland.com/travel/2018/07/attendance_flat_at_cedar_point.html I don't think a 2.5% increase (hundreds of thousands of people in KI's case) is a small amount. And for those being asked about sources, this is how you do it. It may not be necessary but it will help prove your point.

Didn't catch that, we were referencing something from several posts before so I thought he wasn't following.

Their Madhouse dark rides.

Which is weird since I've been on the one in Six Flags Great Adventure and there is supposed to be one in Six Flags New England as well.

They recently rebuilt Hulk.

To add to Bansheeback, and has been stated previously in the thread, the commencement mentions real estate improvements and "the project." New seat covers don't count as either. It seems unlikely a ride as new as Banshee would get new restraints especially considering the newest kind B&M uses are already on it. And again this wouldn't fit the descriptions used. This would refer to some kind of construction project, either a major modification or new. It's rare for steel coasters (especially B&M's) to be changed and neither Banshee nor Diamondback seem to need any changes.

Galaxy's Edge is on the complete opposite corner of the park, closer to Toy Story land. Seems unlikely.

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You can multi quote (it's the plus next to quote under a post on desktop) and it is against the rules to multipost so avoid it in the future.

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