gigacoaster2k Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Those may be the first seats that they see, but they wont necessarily be accessible. Think of SOB's line. It goes into the exact same location of the station, but makes you wrap around the edge and back again toward the center. So just because it enters there, doesn't mean access to all the seat queue's will be there. Good point. I would hate for the station entrance to dump directly into the back of the train.. I would not be a happy camper. But I am sure they have taken that into account. In TTD's station, sometimes it is pulsed and sometimes it is not. I have been there when the ride op wasn't paying attention and let everyone through, so both loading platforms were a mess of confused people crammed like sardines into a can. I seriousaly doubt Don took those pics.. Don has in fact taken some of the photos. http://www.KICentral.com/photos/index.php?cat=22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 After scaling up that mountain... It is now officially Mt. Helbig! KIC should ™ that name, I feel its popularity growing, lol. As the coiner, I hereby second your motion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goofywdw Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Those stairs in the rear of the station really look like service stairs that go under the track to the other side of the station like with the SoB station. But what are these... Could that be for the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiocoasterman Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Here is what it should kinda look like not sure if its 100% but to give you a map and see if anyone can read the text. I don't have any bigger pictures of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goofywdw Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Here is what it should kinda look like not sure if its 100% but to give you a map and see if anyone can read the text. I don't have any bigger pictures of this. Those are awesome! I really wish i could read the writing! I used the zoom feature on my mac but it's too blury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigellinus Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Those stairs in the rear of the station really look like service stairs that go under the track to the other side of the station like with the SoB station. But what are these... Could that be for the line? Looks that way, actually...great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goofywdw Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Those stairs in the rear of the station really look like service stairs that go under the track to the other side of the station like with the SoB station. But what are these... Could that be for the line? Looks that way, actually...great find! Thanks! KIC tourist power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi_kapp_shack Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 GoofyWDW, those are one of the sets of stairs that I was referring to in an earlier post. I agree...go KIC Tourists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I wonder how many people the line will hold. Maybe about 3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goofywdw Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 GoofyWDW, those are one of the sets of stairs that I was referring to in an earlier post. I agree...go KIC Tourists I just went back through your posts and found what you were talking about. Sorry, I didn't read into enough as I should have. But yes, we do rule. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Yes we do. I went past there the other day on the way to a basketball game at kings high school, that is the first time I've seen Diamondback since the last day of the year. Even the second hill is HUGE. I can't wait till April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 After seeing those photographs from the top of the lift hill all I have to say is that Don Helbig is one brave man. And the park must have a very good insurance policy. I seriousaly doubt Don took those pics.. Oh, really? Why's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawana Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm lost on these last couple of stairs posts, but the SOB station set up is something I haven't considered...D-back's load-side does look bigger than Nitro's, but also looks the same as Behemoth. An SOB set up would help a lot, but I have a feeling that won't be happening. Either way, I can't imagine there won't be an attendant at the top of the stairs pulsing the line for the entire season anyway, but it is true that if this set up holds, the wait for the back row will definitely be longer than otherwise, but the GP isn't *that* knowledgeable when it comes to the last row, especially if the 2nd to last row has a much smaller wait. Considering the amount of times I hope to ride D-back anyway, and assuming a short 2nd row wait (which will be almost just as good as the first row), a few less last row rides won't kill me, even though it's the "best" seat. Pulsing? Here is what it should kinda look like not sure if its 100% but to give you a map and see if anyone can read the text. I don't have any bigger pictures of this. Look at the middle of the top photo. It appears that area is the queue entry and the stairs that others have marked on the other photos lead up to the station. That's how it looks to me, and if I'm wrong I'll own that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Browns Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastinNight Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think that it might be a spot for an elevator like Maverick and Behemoth because the entrance is stairs not a ramp... but i could be wrong thats just what it looks like to me It looks to me that they also might be foregoing a lot of cosmetic things on the station like the dormers but i might be wrong here to because all of that can be added later?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcbaseball Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 "Holding cell" for the children who may not want to ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastinNight Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Prob not because that usually by the control room, and if you look at the blueprints there id a box drawn on there right the front of the control room that is prob the "holding cell"! p.s. i hate to say it but those things crack me up, its like kiddie jail and they are always so curious looking in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The webcam view shows that they are getting ready to put the final support for Diamondback into place! They might be close to completing all the track work today, or by early early next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigellinus Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 ^^No offense to KI, but sheesh, I hope so!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reclaimer Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I wouldn't be so sure about having a "holding cell" for children in the station. I'm pretty sure Cedar Fair is trying to get away from having those. Back in 2007 during Cedar Point's training week, the safety and training manager (the person who can actually claim credit for the Cedar Fair-style Rider Safety Guides at the entrances to each ride) talked about how they didn't approve of the Paramount Parks' method of allowing small children into the line and station. She specifically mentioned Kings Island in her presentation and thoroughly explained how it works at KI. I was actually surprised, in 2007 and 2008, to see those "holding cells" in use. Based on all of this, I doubt we'll see any new rides built with these kiddie corrals. The park may continue using the ones seen at Vortex, Adventure Express, etc. for now, but with CF's stance on the policy, I doubt they'll be too keen on adding more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWildman424 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm pretty sure the box is the rider exit and the path you have highlighted is another maitainance staircase. Would they really make everyone file past the control booth to leave. I would think you would want as few people in that area as possible so there aren't any obstructions for the operator. Plus it is the same door setup as the entrance you have shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastinNight Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think the box is the elevator bc otherwise they would have drawn a staircase and not a box off the side and if you look at the ground view blueprint there is a wide opening where you would enter an elevator And for the theory of not having an exit that goes by the control booth... look at Vortex, Racer, Magnum, Iron Dragon, Mean Streak, Wicked Twister. But doing away with the kiddie jail makes sense!! they are a hassle and do slow down load/unload time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbehymer Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I remember the "kiddie jail" for The Beast before I was tall enough to ride. I would be very upset that I couldn't ride, but still remember being excited to even be in line and in the station. Not to mention the excitment/dissapointment that came with standing next to the thing that said "you must be this tall to ride The Beast". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74Gibson Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 They're gettng ready to lift the next piece of track. It's one. They have all the supports up. We may see the helix finished today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Maybe even the final piece as well I' have seen a few workers down around that section. *EDIT* Also if you catch the webcam at the right time it looks to me like they are working on the spiral staircase to the MCBR as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWildman424 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think the box is the elevator bc otherwise they would have drawn a staircase and not a box off the side and if you look at the ground view blueprint there is a wide opening where you would enter an elevator And for the theory of not having an exit that goes by the control booth... look at Vortex, Racer, Magnum, Iron Dragon, Mean Streak, Wicked Twister. But doing away with the kiddie jail makes sense!! they are a hassle and do slow down load/unload time. The reason there are no stairs is because it would make more sense to build a bride over to the existing path at that level. And since there are no stairs leading out of the exit there is no need for an elevator. If there was an elevator that was going to be installed, we would already see the shaft. If that doesn't convince you, why would there be two doors leading to an elevator that would be capable of lifting two people at most? And I know that there are coasters I'm the world that exit right beside the control booth, but that doesn't mean that it's not a safety hazard for riders and the crew. B&M designs their roller coasters to perfection and that means that "little" issues like the operators view of the station are not overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74Gibson Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone know how big of a ceremony they're planning for when they place the final piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Does anyone know how big of a ceremony they're planning for when they place the final piece? Yes Sorry Terpy couldn't help from stealing your line Seriously though, I would imagine just a few folks watching probably some from this site and other media outlets. The final piece will more than likely have a banner from Adena and an American flag flying on it when it goes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastinNight Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think the box is the elevator bc otherwise they would have drawn a staircase and not a box off the side and if you look at the ground view blueprint there is a wide opening where you would enter an elevator And for the theory of not having an exit that goes by the control booth... look at Vortex, Racer, Magnum, Iron Dragon, Mean Streak, Wicked Twister. But doing away with the kiddie jail makes sense!! they are a hassle and do slow down load/unload time. The reason there are no stairs is because it would make more sense to build a bride over to the existing path at that level. And since there are no stairs leading out of the exit there is no need for an elevator. If there was an elevator that was going to be installed, we would already see the shaft. If that doesn't convince you, why would there be two doors leading to an elevator that would be capable of lifting two people at most? And I know that there are coasters I'm the world that exit right beside the control booth, but that doesn't mean that it's not a safety hazard for riders and the crew. B&M designs their roller coasters to perfection and that means that "little" issues like the operators view of the station are not overlooked. Ahhhhhh!! I had never thought of the bridge idea thats quite a compelling argument now that i look at the blueprints again... hmm... I believe you may be on to something there, i think i agree But as to the B&M being too perfect to design the exit next to the control booth, i would debate that for a few reasons- 1. Raptor, exit is very close to the control booth.. not as close as i was saying the blueprint was showing but it is close enough to block the view of the back half of the train!! 2.- I thought that the parks designed the stations including the entrance/exit areas, the only thing they dont control is the track that goes thru the station, security/safety mechanisms, and if needed the floor below the cars (drop floors/ retractable floors). because some coasters have 1 station, some a separate load and unload station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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