Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I still think it's odd that this "gift" was just a box of cookies...Why at other parks was it a announcement about a new kids area themed to snoopy, when Cedar Point's was a box of cookies? Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Uh, at other parks it was also a box of cookies. Why did you think it was an announcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 well, Cedar Point already has two areas themed to snoopy and the peanuts gang, it was just a little 'gift' for snoopy since he's turning 60. edit: lol, well me beating terpy to a point was short lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Why, oh why, must a discussion about a ride that is not going to be built by Intamin lead to so much Intamin-bashing? -- Beatle, who is very interested in what CP will be adding and who enjoys many Intamin rides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillsberry123 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 At Dorney Park Snoopy was given a new area for next year... EDIT: Why, oh why, must a discussion about a ride that is not going to be built by Intamin lead to so much Intamin-bashing? I have said what I have said, but 2 of the coasters in my top 5 are Intamin. I enjoy them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Why, oh why, must a discussion about a ride that is not going to be built by Intamin lead to so much Intamin-bashing? -- Beatle, who is very interested in what CP will be adding and who enjoys many Intamin rides. But, the important question, Mr. Beatle, is do you like cookies? Terp, who misses Bakery, and its wonderful cookies At Dorney Park Snoopy was given a new area for next year... But still Snoopy's present was...a box of cookies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Uh, at other parks it was also a box of cookies. Why did you think it was an announcement? I didn't think it was an announcement at all, I just find it amazing that everyone made a big hoopla out of it. I just thought they might have gotten a bit more then just cookies and a little parade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Hoopla costs money. Some years, Knievel jumps, other years there are Starlight Spectaculars. All must be budgeted. Terp, who is a bit amazed they didn't charge the kids for the cookies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillsberry123 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 And to think I read the PointBuzz thread and saw that he had gotten cookies, thinking that everyone on the thread was having a marathon of sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBEW_Sparky Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah, and I like Corvettes too, but that doesnt mean for a second I cannot say with conviction that I think Chevy sucks!! FYI, Maverick is my #1 Steel and Millie is number 2, but I can not and will not avoid calling a cat a cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAHill Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Those better have been chocolate chip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rcfreak339 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 ^With a little snoopy drawn with icing. Then, and only then will it be as good as a huge ride announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I wasn't expecting an announcement today. Snoopy's Birthday and the announcement of a new thrill ride are geared toward different segments of the park's patrons. And it only makes sense that management would want two dates, each of which are designed to draw more guests to the park, as opposed to doing both on the same day. And I join Terpy in being surprised that the cookies were free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_junky Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah, and I like Corvettes too, but that doesnt mean for a second I cannot say with conviction that I think Chevy sucks!! lol, super like. only one change though, camaro in place of corvette please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 So, KI, KD, CW, WOF, Carowinds, Valleyfair and Dorney got Planet Snoopy, and Cedar Point got cookies. I know several members here who would rather take the cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah, and I like Corvettes too, but that doesnt mean for a second I cannot say with conviction that I think Chevy sucks!! FYI, Maverick is my #1 Steel and Millie is number 2, but I can not and will not avoid calling a cat a cat. We need to watch what we say, lest screamscape may begin posting rumors that Chevy has entered the ride manufacturing business. LOL! --Beatle, who, for what its worth, drives a Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormaster Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Why is it every time someone says "Stratosaur" I'm picturing a T-Rex built out of pieces of Top Thrill dragster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I was at the park today and got a cookie! A fair size was it and amazingly fresh. They had so many, they started to hand them out to the kids at heart, thus is how I got one. Cookies were basic Chocolate Chip with no frosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethdawg17 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Why is it every time someone says "Stratosaur" I'm picturing a T-Rex built out of pieces of Top Thrill dragster? I am right there with you. It sounds like a new version of a stratacoaster but themed to a dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Browns Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 ... and the price tag on their coasters is always through the roof. From what I've heard that's not true at all. Cedar Point goes to B&M, Intamin, and whoever else and says we want a 300' tall coaster what do you have and how much does it cost. Millennium Force is an Intamin and not a B&M basically for one reason, it was cheaper. The price tag on Intamin coaster specifically isn't through the roof, the price tag on 300', 400', coasters with both a lift hill and lsm launches are expensive no matter who builds them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast1979 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Millennium Force is an Intamin and not a B&M basically for one reason, it was cheaper. I have heard that B&M will not build over 300 feet, but I could be wrong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Browns Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Same here, could be wrong, but I got that from Jeff Putz who has more access then I do so I'll take his word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerRider Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Millennium Force is an Intamin and not a B&M basically for one reason, it was cheaper. I have heard that B&M will not build over 300 feet, but I could be wrong.... I think they would build over 500 feet for a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Picard Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Coaster Stock 2010 B&M guest speaker says no height limit and will build whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillsberry123 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 ... and the price tag on their coasters is always through the roof. From what I've heard that's not true at all. Cedar Point goes to B&M, Intamin, and whoever else and says we want a 300' tall coaster what do you have and how much does it cost. Millennium Force is an Intamin and not a B&M basically for one reason, it was cheaper. The price tag on Intamin coaster specifically isn't through the roof, the price tag on 300', 400', coasters with both a lift hill and lsm launches are expensive no matter who builds them. Compare several companies they could work with other than B&M or Intamin... Geauga Lake's Thunderhawk was $10,000,000, The Voyage was $8,500,000, and The Prowler was $8,000,000. Compared to 4 coasters that costs more than $20,000,000 a piece, these alternatives seem much more light on company budget... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 And in Cedar Fair's mindset, light on budget = light on advertising. People will come for a B&M hypercoaster, but for an SLC? A Premier family coaster? In some regards, I'm sure there's merit to that thought process. However, Cedar Fair forgets the small, compact, family rides. It's either a record-breaking 200+ foot beast, or a new kids area. You'll never see a ride like Backlot Stunt Coaster at Cedar Point. And you know what? I think Cedar Point really needs something like that... And, I believe Cedar Fair underestimated Prowler. They probably thought, "Eh, we got a small park, let's just give it a little wooden coaster. It'll keep season pass sales up and maybe draw in a few new people." Lo and behold, the "Best New Coaster of 2009." Until that happened, I doubt they would've even given a CGI woodie a second thought when it came to a bigger park like Cedar Point or Kings Island. I truly believe that Cedar Point's plans may be in the process of being edited right now to include a wooden coaster, and a really ridiculous marketing scheme to amp it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Browns Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Compare several companies they could work with other than B&M or Intamin... Geauga Lake's Thunderhawk was $10,000,000, The Voyage was $8,500,000, and The Prowler was $8,000,000. Compared to 4 coasters that costs more than $20,000,000 a piece, these alternatives seem much more light on company budget... Yeah that might be true but that's not the point I was making. You said Intamins were expensive and I was pointing out that they are actually cheaper for the type of ride(tallest,fastest,etc..) that CP wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I actually heard B&M had drawn up a coaster to go where MF is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillsberry123 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Compare several companies they could work with other than B&M or Intamin... Geauga Lake's Thunderhawk was $10,000,000, The Voyage was $8,500,000, and The Prowler was $8,000,000. Compared to 4 coasters that costs more than $20,000,000 a piece, these alternatives seem much more light on company budget... Yeah that might be true but that's not the point I was making. You said Intamins where expensive and I was pointing out that they are actually cheaper for the type of ride(tallest,fastest,etc..) that CP wanted. And you're right by saying that. Diamondback costs $22,000,000 and Millennium Force costs marginally more, but I think most can agree that the days of record breaking rides are on hold at this point. Now it's all about value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Pillsberry please remeber since then the cost of steel has gone up and the value of a dollar has gone down. MF cost $25 million nine years ago at 3% inflation a year the cost of the ride would be around 30 million in today dollars. Thats not factoring in the cost of steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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