KIBOB Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 This is just me, but giving that CP will be getting a large coaster next year, it seems that SoB will just be sitting there for at least one more year. Just my opinion.... The additon up north is consuming a large chunk of capital, but that does not necessarily mean that there won't be any room for some more improvements. Both Intimidators were installed in the same year, and both were the largest ride investments in their respective park's histories. Then again, a large chunk of capital was spent this year as well: Leviathan, Celebration Plaza, a second order of WindSeekers and a new shipment from Dinos Unearthed, plus Soak City. Who knows what plans are being discussed at CF headquarters. Only Mr. Oiumet, and those with the sole priveleges know. I fully trust the new CEO in his judgements though, and beleive that we have entered a new generation of word class amusement/theme parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I remember when you came into the break run, and finally stopped the whole track would shake from the shear force that the train came into the break run with That happens of Flight Deck, too, and nobody is claiming it to be unsafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIfan73 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Was SoB operating during Halloween Haunt 2007? I was trying to remember my last ride on SoB, and I believe it was in October of that year. Also, it was pretty far into the evening, not long before closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Yes, it was. It had reopened July 4, 2007, if memory serves. I actually drove down to ride it when it re-opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Jackson Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 So what is Son of Beast?? I'm sorry I no longer live in America and only went to Kings Island once under a costume with my brothers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 That happens of Flight Deck, too, and nobody is claiming it to be unsafe. Comparing FD to SoB??Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastrider97 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 So what is Son of Beast?? I'm sorry I no longer live in America and only went to Kings Island once under a costume with my brothers!!! For the whole story check out this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Thought I'd share a weird dream I had last night: So, I went to Kings Island and was waiting in Son of Beast's station with my friend. I told him I was really scared of it. It was the first day it had been open since it closed. The trains weren't there though...instead, there was one toboggan type thing made of wood, a handcar also made of wood, and a sled with no seat belts. All separate and had one person on each. I was too scared to ride it because of this so I left the station but the ride op stopped me and said "C'mon, don't be a baby." But I left anyway. Next, I found Don Helbig walking down Coney Mall so I went up and asked him what was wrong with Son of Beast. He said, "It's open, that's it." And the dream was over. Just sharing it because it felt so realistic and I woke up a little bit confused! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI FANATIC 37 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Was SoB operating during Halloween Haunt 2007? I was trying to remember my last ride on SoB, and I believe it was in October of that year. Also, it was pretty far into the evening, not long before closing. That was the first time I rode SoB. I was terrified of it at first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I remember when you came into the break run, and finally stopped the whole track would shake from the shear force that the train came into the break run with That happens of Flight Deck, too, and nobody is claiming it to be unsafe. The Raven does that also. That happens of Flight Deck, too, and nobody is claiming it to be unsafe. Comparing FD to SoB?? Really?? I think it's not meant to be a comparison so much as making the point that the track shaking when the train hits the brake run is not an issue preventing SOB from re-opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 ^ Just by nature, all brake runs deform elastically (i.e., they move but regain their original shape afterwards) when a train is slowing or stopping on them. Just because it's visible does not necessarily indicate that it's a poor design. It's Newton's third law. In that sense, Flight Deck IS comparable to Son of Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Comparing SoB to any coaster makes zero sense..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 In that both Flight Deck and Son of Beast abide by the laws of physics, they're comparable. The problem is claiming that both deform during the brake run, and thus both are safe or enjoyable for human riders... All tigers are animals; not all animals are tigers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 ^He's not saying that SOB is safe, he's simply saying that the brake run (non-)issue doesn't make it unsafe. That does not rule out the possibility that other issues may make it unsafe; it just rules out that specific behavior as a safety issue. At least that's how I read it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 ^ jcgoble3's got it. I'm not saying that SoB doesn't have a boatload of unique problems; I'm just saying that movement in the brake run isn't necessarily one of them, which felt like the direction this thread was taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Thought I'd share a weird dream I had last night: So, I went to Kings Island and was waiting in Son of Beast's station with my friend. I told him I was really scared of it. It was the first day it had been open since it closed. The trains weren't there though...instead, there was one toboggan type thing made of wood, a handcar also made of wood, and a sled with no seat belts. All separate and had one person on each. I was too scared to ride it because of this so I left the station but the ride op stopped me and said "C'mon, don't be a baby." But I left anyway. Next, I found Don Helbig walking down Coney Mall so I went up and asked him what was wrong with Son of Beast. He said, "It's open, that's it." And the dream was over. Just sharing it because it felt so realistic and I woke up a little bit confused! In 1984, I had a similar dream, about a very tall roller coaster, it was all hills and all there was in terms of seating were lawn chairs on a platform with tv trays to hold you in. Imagine my surprise when I saw them building Diamondback. Perhaps it would be fun to have a toboggany thingie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsIsland vs. Cedarpoint Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 ^hahaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I keep hearing a rumor every year that SOB will be torn down and a new Inverted roller coaster similar to Raptor only taller would be built in it's place. Even though this is a rumor, I like this rumor. You could have an Inverted roller coaster next to Top Gun(Flight Deck) and have it go around or close to Flight of Fear. That last sentence was a fantasy in my head, don't take it as something I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benred23 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thought I'd share a weird dream I had last night: So, I went to Kings Island and was waiting in Son of Beast's station with my friend. I told him I was really scared of it. It was the first day it had been open since it closed. The trains weren't there though...instead, there was one toboggan type thing made of wood, a handcar also made of wood, and a sled with no seat belts. All separate and had one person on each. I was too scared to ride it because of this so I left the station but the ride op stopped me and said "C'mon, don't be a baby." But I left anyway. Next, I found Don Helbig walking down Coney Mall so I went up and asked him what was wrong with Son of Beast. He said, "It's open, that's it." And the dream was over. Just sharing it because it felt so realistic and I woke up a little bit confused! I Had a Dream Kinda similar to that. It didnt involve the toboggan Sleds, but I remember walking down the walkway from Action Zone to coney mall and I remember hearing that Familiar Clanging sound the Anti Rollback made when the train got to the top of the hill and sure enough, SOB was running a empty Red Train! I ran with my brother over to the line, got in line and rode it just like it was yesterday... Got off and Don was standing there after We got off and I just said simply, "Thank you!" and he just as plain as day said, "Welcome Back.." Then I woke up! Wild!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 I think Kings Island could use a Dive Machine. I think that would really fit in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.S.Coasters Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I keep hearing a rumor every year that SOB will be torn down and a new Inverted roller coaster similar to Raptor only taller would be built in it's place. Even though this is a rumor, I like this rumor. You could have an Inverted roller coaster next to Top Gun(Flight Deck) and have it go around or close to Flight of Fear. That last sentence was a fantasy in my head, don't take it as something I heard. I don't see this happening (as much as I would like it), I'm pretty sure Cedar Point signed a contract with B&M when they built Raptor that they cannot build another Invert within 400 miles (as the crow flies) from Cedar Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Even if true, the company now OWNS Kings Island. The provision would have been to protect Cedar Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I keep hearing a rumor every year that SOB will be torn down and a new Inverted roller coaster similar to Raptor only taller would be built in it's place. Even though this is a rumor, I like this rumor. You could have an Inverted roller coaster next to Top Gun(Flight Deck) and have it go around or close to Flight of Fear. That last sentence was a fantasy in my head, don't take it as something I heard. I don't see this happening (as much as I would like it), I'm pretty sure Cedar Point signed a contract with B&M when they built Raptor that they cannot build another Invert within 400 miles (as the crow flies) from Cedar Point. Source? And what happens if Kings Island were to construct a beemer invert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Maverick00, are you on Pointbuzz? Just wondering since I just recently joined this site. That's awesome that I know someone else on here Anyway though, I think that would be cool seeing a dive machine at Kings Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Source for Cedar Fair owning Kings Island? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick00 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Maverick00, are you on Pointbuzz? Just wondering since I just recently joined this site. That's awesome that I know someone else on here Anyway though, I think that would be cool seeing a dive machine at Kings Island. Haha yes I am, good to know I'm not the only PointBuzzer I think a wing coaster would fit great at CP and a dive machine would fit great at KI. I never went on Son of Beast but if it really does have some kind of valley or something, they could really do great things with the drop on a dive machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Even if true, the company now OWNS Kings Island. The provision would have been to protect Cedar Point. ^^Source? And what happens if Kings Island were to construct a beemer invert? Baaahaaaahaaaa!!!! Really???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 2 posts above, NOT Terpy's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Not to derail the topic again, but my earlier claim was to exemplify that the deformation on the brake run was not one of the issues that makes Son of Beast unsafe. Whether it is unsafe or not (personally, I side with safe, but not enjoyable for everyone) is up in the air, but that is not a factor in it being unsafe, if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Whatever the future plans might be with SOB, if they decide to replace it with a new roller coaster, nothing short of another record breaking wooden coaster will do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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