m2raptor Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The last few times I have been to Kings Island I have noticed more dress code issues, mostly dealing with swimsuits. Has there been a change in this policy that anyone knows about? I know in the past that you had to have a shirt on, now I see alot of women with just swimsuit tops and shorts or even guys with just swimtrucks with no shirt. Maybe its me just getting older (as in Mid 20s) and I am just noticing it more. I mean what if there is a accident on one of the rides and exposes themselves. Just something I noticed. What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgerskev Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I haven't seen any shirtless guys but the code is being ignored for women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Does the park have a sign that states the dress code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I know its on the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 They need to place a sign as you are entering the metal detectors, telling you what you can't wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2raptor Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 Most of the guys I have seen violating it are around the Train area, so they might of just got back from the water park and really I have seen about 4 total. Mostly its the women that are violating it. As for it being posted I am pretty sure it is on all of the Rider Safety Guide signs at the entrance of every ride. And I think they all say shirt and shoes required to ride. Also I found this from: http://www.visitkingsisland.com/public/visit/faq.cfm "Is there a dress code at Kings Island? Shirts, shorts/pants and shoes must be worn at all times. Proper swimming attire for Boomerang Bay is defined as one or two-piece swim suits without abrasive buttons, rivets, zippers or snaps." Just as an example, I know that I have seen people have to put their shoes back on to ride Diamondback and White Water Canyon. Now on WindSeeker, Drop Tower, and my guess Invertigo you can't have shoes required due to it being a safety issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Most of the guys I have seen violating it are around the Train area, so they might of just got back from the water park and really I have seen about 4 total. Mostly its the women that are violating it. As for it being posted I am pretty sure it is on all of the Rider Safety Guide signs at the entrance of every ride. And I think they all say shirt and shoes required to ride. Also I found this from: http://www.visitking...c/visit/faq.cfm "Is there a dress code at Kings Island? Shirts, shorts/pants and shoes must be worn at all times. Proper swimming attire for Boomerang Bay is defined as one or two-piece swim suits without abrasive buttons, rivets, zippers or snaps." Just as an example, I know that I have seen people have to put their shoes back on to ride Diamondback and White Water Canyon. Now on WindSeeker, Drop Tower, and my guess Invertigo you can't have shoes required due to it being a safety issue. People can't read, or don't think the rule applies to them. The amount of women walking around with just the swimsuit top and very short shorts is out of control this year. Most of the women (or girls) wearing the shorts have them unbuttoned to show their belly rings. Skanky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qscott86 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. Kings Island is a business in a free country built on capitalism. They have the right to charge whatever they want to for a locker, just like I have the right to choose to not rent a locker because I feel the price is too high. That does NOT, however, give people the right to change into swimsuits in the dry park and violate the dress code just to save $8, because while this great nation may be built on capitalism, it is most certainly NOT built on anarchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qscott86 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. Kings Island is a business in a free country built on capitalism. They have the right to charge whatever they want to for a locker, just like I have the right to choose to not rent a locker because I feel the price is too high. That does NOT, however, give people the right to change into swimsuits in the dry park and violate the dress code just to save $8, because while this great nation may be built on capitalism, it is most certainly NOT built on anarchy. Unfortunately, you are correct that our economy is based on "capitalism". Common sense, however ,will tell you if King's Island didn't want them to be able to do that, they wouldn't let them board the train, etc without being fully clothed which they apparently are allowing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I have been to 13 different parks in the past two years, and I must say that KI, by far, is the worst when it comes to enforcing the rules. From the smoking areas, to line jumping, to the dress code, etc. etc. etc. compared to other parks, security is virtually nonexistent at KI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 ^^ Be careful who you mean by "they." Kings Island doesn't allow swimming attire in the dry park. So says its official rules, after all. But a ride operator might. Another may not. Another may know full well that it is not allowed, but the 16-year-old part timer doesn't find it worth his minimum wage hourly pay to confront the loud, half-naked group of teenagers who's strutting their stuff down the path. Perhaps one security guard finds it a punishable offense, while another just rolls his eyes because he has more important ways to spend his time. The official stance of Kings Island is clear. Just because an action isn't punished doesn't mean it's allowed. Not that picking and choosing application of rules is a good thing. I was extremely upset when my group as well as two others came together to report a group of line-cutters. But, they were six foot tall African American men. Whether that has anything to do with the fact that no one spoke with them, I can't say. It was irritating. But that's life. Sometimes there are more important things to do, and sometimes, it's just not worth the imagined scenario. ^ I agree that Kings Island is the worst at that. At Disney and Universal, it is quite clear upon entering that if you are smoking outside of a smoking area, you will be escorted from the park with no refund, no questions asked, period. And best of all - I've never seen it come to that. Sometimes just establishing that rules are enforced does a whole lot of good. Word of mouth spreads, so if a friend's friend's friend was asked to leave for smoking even one time, than all of that person's friend's friend's friends will think twice. I sometimes think it's because of Kings Island's area. Kings Dominion is very, very, very stringent on security, but probably because of the areas it caters to. Perhaps the thought process about Kings Island is "Ohio? What's the worst that could happen..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. Kings Island is a business in a free country built on capitalism. They have the right to charge whatever they want to for a locker, just like I have the right to choose to not rent a locker because I feel the price is too high. That does NOT, however, give people the right to change into swimsuits in the dry park and violate the dress code just to save $8, because while this great nation may be built on capitalism, it is most certainly NOT built on anarchy. Unfortunately, you are correct that our economy is based on "capitalism". Common sense, however ,will tell you if King's Island didn't want them to be able to do that, they wouldn't let them board the train, etc without being fully clothed which they apparently are allowing it. I said that I didn't know whether they were allowed on the train or not, not that they were allowed on it. From what I've seen in the past, the employees on the train usually tend to strictly enforce the dress code with regard to swimsuits, so there is a very good chance that they were forced to go back and get their clothes. I simply did not see what happened because I headed off in a different direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalefan Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. You can be a little bit less rude in your post don't you think? It's a public park. So it is the posters business along with everyone else's. The signs in the park going to and from the waterpark state the rules. The people know via signs what the $2.00 lockers are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qscott86 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. You can be a little bit less rude in your post don't you think? It's a public park. So it is the posters business along with everyone else's. The signs in the park going to and from the waterpark state the rules. The people know via signs what the $2.00 lockers are for. No, I don't agree. It's no one elses' business nor mine as long as the person isn't violating public indecency laws. That may be the rules, but it's the park's place to enforce them, not the general public. I'm well aware that the $2 lockers are there to make more money. I think the park needs to offer some alternative to spending $15 on a small locker. Perhaps they could offer a smaller locker for less. The way it stands, it's basically impossible to enter the water park without buying a locker unless you take your admission ticket and car keys with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Kings Island's Security is a JOKE. The Metal Dectors are only used during Haunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketingExpress Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 To those talking about the train crew must be allowing them to ride in swim suits...keep in mind that the train is not the only means of getting to BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 This past Thursday, in five minutes I counted at least seven women who changed into their swimsuits in the dry park (I hope in a restroom), locked their stuff, including their street clothes, in one of the $2 single-use lockers next to White Water Canyon, and headed for the train with the stated intent of heading to the waterpark. Now, I understand that $10 is a bit overpriced for a locker, but that's still not allowed. I looked around for an employee, but didn't see one, so I just ignored it. I never saw whether they were allowed on the train or not, as I headed back into the woods to ride WWC. I would have complained to GR out my way out for dinner, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. Well it's good that you ignored it because it was none of your business. That's a lot of the reason our nation is in trouble - people cannot keep their nose where it belongs. They have no right to charge $15 (before the deposit is returned) for a locker. It's not only ridiculous, it's irresponsible. You can be a little bit less rude in your post don't you think? It's a public park. So it is the posters business along with everyone else's. The signs in the park going to and from the waterpark state the rules. The people know via signs what the $2.00 lockers are for. When my clothes were stolen, it was suggested I go get my new pass as soon as possible. I'm very old school, I didn't want to go into the park in my bathing suit, not out of any rules, but from common decorum. What's lacking is manners on the patrons part. It's sad that workers in the park would have to point out the rules, but since we're sliding into an Idiocracy (It's 12:06am July 4th, the guy across the street just now decides on fireworks.) It would probably be needed in the future to hire a person to go around and point out the obvious. I snagged a pair of shorts and a shirt from the store to go get a new pass, I went into the dry side of the park, only to see at least four girls, dripping wet, in bathing suits by the candy store. Since they weren't wearing shoes, it's not likely they could purchase anything. It looked really out of place. I'd be embarrassed to stand out like that in a crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalefan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I need a mod to email me please. Doesn't matter which one. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 What I am going to say is going to really upset a lot of people, but here goes. Just a few days ago, I saw several groups of girls walking around in short shorts, swim suit tops and belly rings-shorts were unbuttoned. I don't want to look at that, and it is especially gross sitting in a seat after one of those wet girls gets out of the train. Now yeah the perception is security is nonexistent at KI and yes, it needs improvement, but I have seen suits walk by people openly smoking in non smoking areas and they don't say squat. So the reason nothing is done, is it comes from the top. The particular suit I observed ignoring the problem promptly picked up his blackberry and appeared to talk on it and created the illusion that he was busy. When management ignores it, what do you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Kings Island's Security is a JOKE. The Metal Dectors are only used during Haunt. And who do you blame for that? Don't take it out on the low level personnel, take it to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2raptor Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 One thing I will add for the Security is that a change seems to have been made to put Guards at least at Diamondback, The Beast, and WindSeeker throughout the day. That's how it was on Sunday, but that might of just been for the Holiday Weekend. I had a feeling that I wasn't the only one that noticed the dress code issues. We all know that KI Management reads this forum so my hope is that they see this and will get this corrected. I really do like the direction of the park recently but with everything there will always be some issues. Thankfully this one can be corrected easily. BTW thanks for reminding me of the unbuttoned shorts...... ugh really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Kings Island's Security is a JOKE. The Metal Dectors are only used during Haunt. And who do you blame for that? Don't take it out on the low level personnel, take it to the top. Exactly! Its Cedar Fail! Not the individual worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I don't know if we can really say that ignoring in-park smoking is mandated from a corporate level... But we can certainly say one thing: if those in power believed that smoking outside of designated areas was a serious offense worth punishing, than it would be punished. The people who sign the checks decide what their employees prioritize, and if those folks wanted to put an end to dress code violations, smoking, and line-cutting, they would. It's as simple as saying, "Your work is being monitored, and you will be held responsible for clear violations that happen around you." And like I mentioned, if it were enforced even for a short time, the behavior would trail off with word of mouth. That being said, if a policy truly requiring employees to speak to rule-breakers was implemented, I would love to see Mr. Kinzel or any other higher-up step up to a group of smoking teenagers and politely ask them (without mentioning his company position) to kindly relocate to a smoking area. Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BavarianBeatle Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I don't know if we can really say that ignoring in-park smoking is mandated from a corporate level... But we can certainly say one thing: if those in power believed that smoking outside of designated areas was a serious offense worth punishing, than it would be punished. The people who sign the checks decide what their employees prioritize, and if those folks wanted to put an end to dress code violations, smoking, and line-cutting, they would. It's as simple as saying, "Your work is being monitored, and you will be held responsible for clear violations that happen around you." And like I mentioned, if it were enforced even for a short time, the behavior would trail off with word of mouth. That being said, if a policy truly requiring employees to speak to rule-breakers was implemented, I would love to see Mr. Kinzel or any other higher-up step up to a group of smoking teenagers and politely ask them (without mentioning his company position) to kindly relocate to a smoking area. Ha! At Cedar Point, they do direct smokers to the nearest smoking area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbeast214(v2.0) Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I don't know if we can really say that ignoring in-park smoking is mandated from a corporate level... But we can certainly say one thing: if those in power believed that smoking outside of designated areas was a serious offense worth punishing, than it would be punished. The people who sign the checks decide what their employees prioritize, and if those folks wanted to put an end to dress code violations, smoking, and line-cutting, they would. It's as simple as saying, "Your work is being monitored, and you will be held responsible for clear violations that happen around you." And like I mentioned, if it were enforced even for a short time, the behavior would trail off with word of mouth. That being said, if a policy truly requiring employees to speak to rule-breakers was implemented, I would love to see Mr. Kinzel or any other higher-up step up to a group of smoking teenagers and politely ask them (without mentioning his company position) to kindly relocate to a smoking area. Ha! At Cedar Point, they do direct smokers to the nearest smoking area! think of it like this you always what to protect the capitol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 think of it like this you always what to protect the capitol. I always enjoy interpreting typos, but this one wins. It almost reminds me of Steve Martin teaching a kid to speak, "May I put my dogface in the banana patch?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Even if you ask someone not to smoke walking through the park, if they keep doing it, there's not really a lot you can do since by the time you'd get to a phone they'd be long gone anyway. Same thing with dress code, if you see an inappropriate shirt and ask someone to turn it inside-out, they'll just fix it as soon as they leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonor_Drummer Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 To be honest, as long as nothing inappropriate is showing, what's it matter? I know people don't find swimsuits appropriate for everything but hey, they're not naked lol. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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