jdawg1998 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Back on the topic of removal, is it true that Thunder Alley will be making an exit as well? It hasn't been made official, has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastrider97 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 ^As I am aware of, no. If it is true or not, we will find out after this weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 SOB, thunder alley, and the space behind delerium? I feel excitment inside of me!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 ^ Please don't remove Thunder Alley! Just expand it like the one at Cedar Point! Takes this as a suggestion Kings Island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Are you really that big a fan of mediocre GoCarts? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 So rode FD twice today. I noticed that on the lift, it literally squeaked a fairly long and loud tone. The lift chain was barely moving, it wasn't until the entire train was on the lift, that the speed picked up. With S&S power taking care of Arrow coasters, I've heard that they've stopped carrying parts for the suspended coasters (as there are 3 on the North American Continent), making it harder for parks to get the parts when the rides go down. It makes me think that within 5 years, we won't have a Flight Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TombraiderTy Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 ^There are four - Vortex at Canada's Wonderland, Flight Deck at Kings Island, Iron Dragon at Cedar Point, and Ninja at Six Flags Magic Mountain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Maybe that's why Big Bad Wolf was scrapped then. So this means if Flight Deck is removed, Iron Dragon will be in the future as well. That's a shame because I enjoy both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongliveKingsCobra Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 So rode FD twice today. I noticed that on the lift, it literally squeaked a fairly long and loud tone. The lift chain was barely moving, it wasn't until the entire train was on the lift, that the speed picked up. With S&S power taking care of Arrow coasters, I've heard that they've stopped carrying parts for the suspended coasters (as there are 3 on the North American Continent), making it harder for parks to get the parts when the rides go down. It makes me think that within 5 years, we won't have a Flight Deck. the first bit can be answered simply, block section. FD has always (in my memory) crawled up the lift hill, till about mid way up the lift. Sort of like The Beast. All about blocks. For the second bit; if I remember correctly Terpy once, twice, thrice even, spoke that parts can always be ordered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 And if they can't, they can be made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 it has been doing it as long as i remeber so dont worry. Is that cherry picker thing still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 So rode FD twice today. I noticed that on the lift, it literally squeaked a fairly long and loud tone. The lift chain was barely moving, it wasn't until the entire train was on the lift, that the speed picked up. With S&S power taking care of Arrow coasters, I've heard that they've stopped carrying parts for the suspended coasters (as there are 3 on the North American Continent), making it harder for parks to get the parts when the rides go down. It makes me think that within 5 years, we won't have a Flight Deck. the first bit can be answered simply, block section. FD has always (in my memory) crawled up the lift hill, till about mid way up the lift. Sort of like The Beast. All about blocks. For the second bit; if I remember correctly Terpy once, twice, thrice even, spoke that parts can always be ordered. Trust me, I know about blocking, as a former ride op at KI, the lift literally was slow as molasses with the 1 train op compared to the 2 train op that is usually going on. However, my original point was that the lift hardly started before the train was all the way on the lift chain. It wasn't like the train got on the lift and then slowed down, it was more of the kicker wheels were sending the train out faster than the chain could get started for the journey upward. It just seemed odd to me that the lift speed didn't pick up until the train was fully on the lift and only having one train operating. FD has 3 blocks, Block A being the lift, Block B being the Brakes and Block C being the station. If both Block B and C were open (which they were) the lift should be at normal speed, as it's not waiting for the block to clear. However, the lift wasn't even at "normal speed" until the train was 3/4 of the way up, at 3/4ths of the way up, something kept squeaking as I stated in my last post fairly loud and long. I've ridden FD hundreds to thousands of times and have never heard or experienced that noise. And if they can't, they can be made. Who's gonna make them though? I've heard rumblings that S&S Arrow do not make parts for Suspended coasters anymore on a couple other sites. Taking it with a grain of salt, but what happens when they stop? TombRaiderTy I totally forgot about Ninja at SFMM, mainly because I've never ridden it, so yes...4 on the North American continent haha. Don't get me wrong folks, I'd be devastated if Flight Deck left...but I am just saying I don't see it around for much more than 5 years. Just observations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Many parks, machine shops, contractors and other ride manufacturers all have the capability to make parts. Giavonola, Morgan, Togo...out of business. Their coasters soldier on. Whips continue to run, with Mangels long since out of business. Models T and A are often seen on the road, yet Ford quit making most parts for them decades ago. Packards, Studebakers, even DeLoreans, too. A manufactuer not selling parts is usually not a critical factor in whether a ride continues. Patents are another story, but are unlikely to be an issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Who's gonna make them though? I've heard rumblings that S&S Arrow do not make parts for Suspended coasters anymore on a couple other sites. Taking it with a grain of salt, but what happens when they stop? It is not difficult to take a part, reverse engineer it, and make it. We do it all the time in the shop I work at. It will not be cheap, but far from impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Understandable for both you Terpy and Browntggrr. Do you guys think the cost would be worth it, when it comes down to it? P.S. Browntggrr love the quote in your signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Is it worth it? There are SO many variables, it would be impossible for us to guess correctly. Ultimately, it comes down to the almighty buck. Ridership comes into play, as well as how much individual attention is necessary for the ride (this takes away from other rides) to operate. Location needs to also be considered, as in the case of BBW at BGE. That was a PRIME coaster location as we can see with Verbolten. I don't believe the same can be said of FD's location. Typically, CF has long range plans for rides/ areas. They also don't usually install a major new ride in the same area (close together) in consecutive years. Given SoB is coming down, I assume a general makeover for AZ, and the next major project to go near SoB's former footprint. My assumptions can also be full of crap as I didn't anticipate the removal of DT at CP given the last-second decision to remove WC, but if you look back to the decision to remove DD & installing WS you can see how CP planned GK many years in advance. All that said, I don't see FD being removed for a handful of years. (of course since I said that, it's gonna close at the end of the year ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 So rode FD twice today. I noticed that on the lift, it literally squeaked a fairly long and loud tone. The lift chain was barely moving, it wasn't until the entire train was on the lift, that the speed picked up. With S&S power taking care of Arrow coasters, I've heard that they've stopped carrying parts for the suspended coasters (as there are 3 on the North American Continent), making it harder for parks to get the parts when the rides go down. It makes me think that within 5 years, we won't have a Flight Deck. I was there on monday and it wa squeeking pretty loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It was Labor Day. It was Laboring. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 It was Labor Day. It was Laboring. FD obviously needs an epidural. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Unless they are catasrophically destroyed, many of the individual "expensive" parts can be repaired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This song would be fitting for FD, DT and SOB. I believe these are more fitting Flight Deck (AKA Top Gun) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fab0nsF1z2I Thunder Alley (AKA Days of Thunder) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7lakvaC1FM Son of Beast (AKA the thing that hurts you) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Vida La Vida is one of my favorite songs. But it does kinda fit SOB.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Vida La Vida is one of my favorite songs. But it does kinda fit SOB.... If you listen closely to the lyrics of the song, It fits Son of Beast Perfectly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Indeed. St. Peter is very unlikely to call its name! Terp, who is sorry if that was a cold play. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Vida La Vida is one of my favorite songs. But it does kinda fit SOB.... If you listen closely to the lyrics of the song, It fits Son of Beast Perfectly..... I was trying so hard to avoid saying that. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWorldEmperor Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Was Flight Deck not painted in the last couple years? I want to say it was painted last spring but I'm not positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongliveKingsCobra Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yes. Cobra, stepping in for Terpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWorldEmperor Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Well I don't think they'd paint it if they could foresee the end of its life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 ^King Cobra? It wasn't like the train got on the lift and then slowed down, it was more of the kicker wheels were sending the train out faster than the chain could get started for the journey upward. Since you are a former employee of Kings Island, you should know that there are no pusher wheels on Flight Deck. In addition, the claim about blocking and Flight Deck's chain is correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWorldEmperor Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Did they paint King Cobra before its removal? I can't remember many details from that long ago. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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