KIfan73 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 ^When someone posts something almost exactly the same as I think, I always like to mention it! Although I lack a great deal of knowledge about the amusement industry, it didn't make much sense to me, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Moderately priced, easy to duplicate, easy to market as a family ride and a thrill ride, and I would imagine that the cost of the second wave was somehow subsidized by the manufacturer after the problems from the first wave were "fixed." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I'm just confused about the lack off common sense regarding the purchase of multiple prototypes. It's been said here many times that prototypes do have issues. Yes, perfectly okay, but I'd say the incident which occurred in California is an issue. A big one. Now multiply that by the number of WindSeekers installed and you get....? A really "nice" investment. I can't say my knowledge on the topic is anything grand, but this seemed like a not-so-good idea from the get go. Am I missing something? At least they're not catching fire like the Dino did... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I think it's easy to look back now and say it was a stupid idea, and a lot of us even had our reservations before construction started. But to be fair, it seemed like a fairly cut-and-dry ride that would have the normal first-of-its-kind glitches, but even out quickly. That obviously ended up not being the case. But almost no one foresaw the extent of issues that the WindSeeker rides could have. It was a questionable choice, but not an outright stupid one the way that it appears now. That's my thought, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I may not be WindSeeker's biggest fan, but I do like it's light show, and would be sad to see that leave. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Is it possible to give it the sky screamer treatment and just change the seating? That's what I'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Islander Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Is it possible to give it the sky screamer treatment and just change the seating? That's what I'd do. What would that fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Why is it that all problems pertaining to prolonged periods of evacuation began this season? Nothing happened (apart from the CW incident) in 2011, so why is it all WindSeekers, the new and the old, are having the same problem all at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 No matter how much I think about it, I just can't seem to see why Cedar Fair invested in so many WindSeekers. It doesn't seem to be anyone's "favorite" ride...it doesn't deliver much of a thrill (unless you have a fear of heights, and I many - not all - with an acute fear of heights don't climb on a 300' swing ride) and it's not a ride you go to the park knowing that you're going to get right in line for. I've rode it once, and it was enough for me to know that I didn't need to ride it again. The only reason I'd hate to see it go is CF's money that was lost with it. Just because it may not be "anyone's favorite ride" doesn't mean people don't like it. I would say the Eiffel Tower isn't anyone's favorite, but I do not think it was a waste or that they should take it down. I know the bumper cars aren't my favorite, but if the park said they were getting rid of them there would be plenty of people upset. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I'm just confused about the lack off common sense regarding the purchase of multiple prototypes. It's been said here many times that prototypes do have issues. Yes, perfectly okay, but I'd say the incident which occurred in California is an issue. A big one. Now multiply that by the number of WindSeekers installed and you get....? A really "nice" investment. I can't say my knowledge on the topic is anything grand, but this seemed like a not-so-good idea from the get go. Am I missing something? Hindsight is always 20/20. Consider this: (from people that do this not only for a living, but have been doing it WORLDWIDE for many decades) http://editorial.autos.msn.com/10-largest-auto-recalls-in-history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Just because it may not be "anyone's favorite ride" doesn't mean people don't like it. I would say the Eiffel Tower isn't anyone's favorite, but I do not think it was a waste or that they should take it down. I know the bumper cars aren't my favorite, but if the park said they were getting rid of them there would be plenty of people upset. If they got rid of my Dodgems I would fight somebody. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Loved the comment the eifel tower, the dodgem. Remember history the Eifel tower was going to replace a very famous ride the Lost River ( I do believe it was that ride to add to the park . When the flooding occured again then the sell to TAFT they moved the attraction (the pieces ) to be the center piece of the park. Dodgems lets remove it the thrill seekers don't enjoy it. Why is disney great it trys to cater to the imagineers, the thrilleneers, the joyful generationaleers, and so many more. A great park is not just coasters, its the smell, the tastes, the sights, the games, the memories. I'm a rollercoaster lover, but love the other stuff too, I don't see WindSeekers going anywhere unless a settlement would be made by the manufactures'. Wow! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Has anyone heard any news on the investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I keep hearing it is a software glitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Even if THAT is fixed, the excessive evacuation time problem remains. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Even if THAT is fixed, the excessive evacuation time problem remains. Not necessarily.A software glitch may have prevented the system from going into a "manual" mode- a mode that will allow the gondola to be lowered using the motorized system as opposed to a hand crank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windshawne Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Interesting sidenote is the webcam shows ws seats are at the top of the tower right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbacker Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Interesting sidenote is the webcam shows ws seats are at the top of the tower right now. Looks like there's some dummies in the seats. EDIT: Post 300! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Even if THAT is fixed, the excessive evacuation time problem remains. Not necessarily.A software glitch may have prevented the system from going into a "manual" mode- a mode that will allow the gondola to be lowered using the motorized system as opposed to a hand crank. But any kind of manual mode should bypass any computer or automatic interaction, hence being "manual". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 But any kind of manual mode should bypass any computer or automatic interaction, hence being "manual". In a perfect World, that sounds great on paper.A computer glitch could easily cause all servos to disengage and go into a STOP mode even after switching to MANUAL mode. When it comes to safety, there is no "override" or "bypass" switch that would allow a device to be moved once a safety switch has been engaged in the ladder until it is individually reset. Think of it like a railroad crossing signal & barriers. If something goes wrong, the signals come on & the barriers are moved to the engaged position. It will take: an electrician to go out to the crossing, figure out what the issue is, fix it, go into manual mode to disengage the barriers, reset the fault, and put the signals & barrier back into AUTO. Whatever the glitch is (or if there is even a glitch- again- this is still just what I have heard) prevents the WS servos from being reset and then moved manually thus the hand crank comes into play. It should be noted that CP's WS is also testing like KI's. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voicetek Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 The problem with all the Wind Seekers is they are using cheap sprockets that were not made to the correct specs. If they had used sprockets from Spacely Sprockets, they would not have the problem. Spacely's best employee, George Jetson would had made sure it would had been made to the correct specifications. You know they probably went with a cheaper Cogswell Cogs product in order to save a few bucks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalefan Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Probaly not true, but One of The Vortex ride oP's told me that WindSeeker will be demolished at all Cedar Fair parks. Becuase they will not work. But then again Ride op's can lie! The workers can't say/show anything about what happens behind the scenes at the park unless the park itself told the gp about it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 They don't really know that stuff either. They know some things maybe a few days ahead of time at most, but most things are just rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Even if THAT is fixed, the excessive evacuation time problem remains. Not necessarily.A software glitch may have prevented the system from going into a "manual" mode- a mode that will allow the gondola to be lowered using the motorized system as opposed to a hand crank. A hand crank. I knew 5 million sounded too cheap to be true! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 At least manual mode is better then " Drop Tower mode". 1 ride per costumer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Christopher Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 At least manual mode is better then " Drop Tower mode". 1 ride per costumer. What about seamstresses? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 https://plus.google.com/app/basic/local/111627582973527367567/about I don't under stand what women sewing wedding dresses have any thing to do with wind seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Obviously, you were not at Drop Zone's media day. Terp, dropping in in a stitch of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Nope, and even if I was there I doubt my cognitive memory would have processed any information given. Or in other words I was 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kblanken Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Nope, and even if I was there I doubt my cognitive memory would have processed any information given. Or in other words I was 1. If you were 1, then you probably weren't, uh costumed to Drop Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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