UnrealNightmare Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that this is going to be a steel coaster just by seeing a few footings being poured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I have a feeling this thread is going to be very, very, long by the time the summer season ends. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealNightmare Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 And why is no one paying attention to Terpy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Why would anybody pay any attention to him? He could be just a...diversion! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Where was Screamin' Demon located? Could that have any relevance to the unidentified "evil phenomenon"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 From the tower... 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I`ll say this. Whatever they are building, it looks as if they are going to make sure it is on sound footings. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I just got back! Im going to post a HUGE PTR soon.I can confirm that it is MASSIVE land clearing! Adventure Express was so different this year with no SoB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I really want a Giga-Diamondback style coaster and less of a copy of Leviathan. Don't get me wrong, Leviathan looks like a great coaster but I love seeing Diamondback going over the terrain and I'd like to see that incorporated into the possible new coaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Seeing those footers kind of kills my hope for a wooden coaster ...woodies have TONS of footers, along what will eventually be the path of the track, and not at all spread out anywhere...take a look at, for example, this: (Useless bonus points if you can guess what ride this was under construction...) The supports coming up in the old Thunder Alley area do not look like this at all. They appear, instead, to be steel coaster supports. And then the 308' teaser hints at a Giga Coaster...but, if so...why the heck is Cedar Fair still so interested in making sure Millennium Force is the tallest non-launched steel coaster in the country when they build other gigas? It baffles me- oh well, bigger is not always better. I'm hoping that, if this is a giga, that is is very different from Diamondback- as in NOT an out-and-back, and while it can have some airtime hills and good airtime, I don't want another ride that is...drop, hill, hill, hill, turnaround, hill, helix, mcbr, hill, hill, helix, splashdown, brakes...or anything even close to that. B&M can make other, very different layouts for their mega coasters, with, say, speed as main a focus instead of airtime. Not to mention I'd love to see the Giga use that terrain to better effect that what Diamondback did...Kings Island kinda blew the whole "terrain" aspect of that ride, with 1 drop into a tiny ravine and that's it. Come to think of it, a 300' version (similar, not a carbon copy) of Raging Bull @ SFGam, minus the excessive trim brakes, or B&M's version of I305 (same thing, since B&M would NOT carbon-copy I305!) would be more than welcome...and if this is an Intamin (which I would like, because then the B&M Hyper vs. Intamin Giga debate could be settled by a trip to KI!), well, throw all that out because I'm pretty sure it would end up very different from Diamondback then. Alas, I still think the park proabably should have gone in a different direction if this is a giga, because it's not really what the park needs. We have our giant steel coaster already, I'd rather see a smooth looping floorless, a inverted coaster, or some type of modern wooden coaster (the 3 the park has are all old-fashioned woodies, which is fine, but I'd like to have seen something new join them). This could still be a very good ride...I'm just hoping it's different enough that its existance helps Diamondback, rather than "BIG NEW COSTAH IZ HERE! I DO ALL STUFF Diamondback DOES, BUT AM BIGGER!" Diamondback: "FUDGE." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 There sure is a lot of supposin' goin' on here. And B&M? If a park chain wants a bunch of clones, they deliver. Or was it INTAMIN who designed and sold all those Batmen: The Rides? The things I "learn" here. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayblazer Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Looks like a flat ride is going in to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 My early bet is on either a wing coaster or a giga. I have no preference between the two, though I suspect that will change after I ride Gatekeeper in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Move a little dirt, and add a fence with a cleaver saying and you still have a mystery or a diversion, either way I think we should all listen to the elf. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 ^^True, at this point, all we can do is assume, since all we have there are footers. And, thinking about it, the 308' could be a distraction...kind of like "HUSS Giant Frisbee" back at Carowinds a while back...we all know what that really was...another WindSeeker. I'm guessing this is a steel coaster of some sort, comparing it to what we saw before Diamondback was built. Now, of what type, that is the real question, because there are so many different ones...even when track shows up, all that will do is reveal who is building said new coaster. B&M has a bunch of coaster styles, but the track for nearly all of them seems almost identical. Intamin's blitz coaster track is very similar looking to the giga coaster track. Among others. This new coaster could even be, dare I say it... Sometime in July...Don Helbig comes on stage Don Helbig: Hello everyone I would like to introduce, Project 308! The world's first Vekoma Giga Coaster!(Everyone screams in agony) Hey, it is quite possible...not that I really expect a Vekoma Giga Coaster, of course...until someone sneaks up and takes a picture of a piece of track with a label of some sort on it... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Harumph. At least one poster here prefers Vekoma Flying Dutchmen to the B&M Supermen flying coasters. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I was imagining something more along the lines of a 300' looping style Vekoma, which for whatever reason still had OTSRs...can you say "ow" at the bottom of that 300' drop when the train enters a curve at 90mph? Granted, I have heard Vekoma is apparently working on their track work...as in, they have a new style of track for the flying coasters and stuff very different that what Firehawk has, etc. (Checks Vekoma's web site) Yeah, the picture at the top for "Flying Dutchman" shows a different track style... It was also a bit of a joke, playing off Vekoma's rep among coaster enthsiasts (their coasters are not seen as smooth, which is a major problem if you are going to go 300' and 90+mph)...and of a coaster type Vekoma, at least for now, does not even make... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XjoshhyX Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 my .02, I just want another coaster. What I would like to see is one of the newer style woody's, like Hades or Outlaw Run. I am very partial to Wooden coasters, love the feel (rougher is better, that's what she said) and the presentation of wooden coasters looks so cool to me. If we were to get something like a Giga/Wing, I think that would be great. I would hate to see something be close to "cloning" Gatekeeper if we were to get a wing though. Cedar Fair has something for us, we'll find out soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Sigh...I just had to do it...even though I suck at this sort of thing, I was wondering "If it is a giga, what will it look like as we drive up to the park?"...so I found a picture I took from Google Maps, used SOB's 218-foot lift hill as a rough estimate for how "big" the new ride should look, erased SOB, and added a poorly drawn giga...resulting in this: Also, forgive lack of WindSeeker...anyhow, this is my guestimate for how a giga will "appear" from Kings Island drive...enjoy. Also forgive my sloppy repairs to fix Sling Shot, which was "damaged" a bit as I removed SOB... Oh, worth noting- notice how, due to the Giga's placement in the "back" of the park, Diamondback looks bigger due to being much closer...if this really does happen, wonder if there will be park-goers who insist Diamondback is bigger...incorrectly, of course... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 To be quite honest, All of you could be wrong..... Or All of you could be right....... But most likely, It will probablly be what we all least expected..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 With people saying wildly different things, how could everyone be right? Terp, who likes to ask questions. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 While I agree the footers (footings) don't line up like they should for a wooden coaster, I still think this is wood. There are too many of them (20) in such a small area. Also, compare the size of them to steel footers (footings), they look too small to be steel (Diamondback's are huge, and I305 all appear to be squares.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 With people saying wildly different things, how could everyone be right? Terp, who likes to ask questions. The only way that everyone could be right is if Kings Island had another 200 acres to work with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 If they had 20,000 acres but six dollars? And couldn't/wouldn't sell off land (or use it for other purposes, SEE: Carl Lindner). Terp, who liked to ask questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Wait, you mean Kings Island is not only adding a B&M Giga, but an Intamin Plug N' Play wooden coaster, a Gravity Group Wooden Coaster, a GCI Wooden Coaster, a RMC Wooden Coaster with Inversions, a B&M Inverted, a B&M Floorless, a B&M Wing Coaster, a B&M Stand-Up, a Intamin Blitz Coaster (like Maverick @ CP), a Intamin Rocket Coaster like TTD/Kingda Ka, re-locating the Geuaga Lake Big Dipper here, New Antique Cars, New Flying Scooters, a Zipper, a Tilt-A-Whirl, a S&S Screamin' Swing, a HUSS Jump2, a new HUSS Suspended Top Spin (Crypt replacement HO!), an Intamin Aquatrax, a 2nd Log Flume, a second kids area, a massive waterpark expansion with over 20 new water slides and water coasters, a second lazy river, and a 3rd wave pool, bringing back Phantom Theatre, re-painting The Racer its old colors and also re-painting other rides, upgrading the appearance of the park everywhere, re-theming and re-naming the awful former Paramount rides like Drop Tower and Flight Deck, installing weaker trim brakes on Beast, upgrading the food to levels that make Knoebels look terrible in comparison, adding free drinks like Holiday World, AND adding a resort hotel complete with indoor waterpark and golf course (SUCK ON DAT GREAT WOLF LODGE!)...!?!? darn, that would be so awesome, but I'm thinking it would cost somewhere in the range of hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars...Matt Ouimet would be so fired the very next day for poor management of money! Granted, Kings Island would be named "Best Amusement Park in The World" instantly by everyone. And they can charge $500 for tickets and people would STILL come! Alas, it is impossible...in real life...yet, you can do said stuff I listed above in RCT or other games easily. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEASTmaster Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned of a B&M dive coaster at Kings Island? Maybe that is the diversion. Sorry Terp. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekidd33 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 While I agree the footers (footings) don't line up like they should for a wooden coaster, I still think this is wood. There are too many of them (20) in such a small area. Also, compare the size of them to steel footers (footings), they look too small to be steel (Diamondback's are huge, and I305 all appear to be squares.) I realize that Skyrush isn't a giga but it does have round footers, for whatever that's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned of a B&M dive coaster at Kings Island? Maybe that is the diversion. Sorry Terp. Crud, I forgot that one in my big list o' everything KI could add! Come to think of it,a Dive Machine wouldn't be so bad at KI...different from everything else, so no "it competes with Diamondback/any other ride in the park" problem, and Cedar Point doesn't have one either...and they could design it to run numerous trains at once, for excellent capacity... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEASTmaster Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 While I agree the footers (footings) don't line up like they should for a wooden coaster, I still think this is wood. There are too many of them (20) in such a small area. Also, compare the size of them to steel footers (footings), they look too small to be steel (Diamondback's are huge, and I305 all appear to be squares.) The footings we see in these pictures could be for the station or the train maintainence shed, if it is a coaster. Look at Diamondback's station during the early construction stage in this picture from rcdb.com: http://rcdb.com/4253.htm?p=22250 Notice how small the footings are in the station and maintainence shed areas compared to the tracks' footings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEASTmaster Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned of a B&M dive coaster at Kings Island? Maybe that is the diversion. Sorry Terp. Crud, I forgot that one in my big list o' everything KI could add! Come to think of it,a Dive Machine wouldn't be so bad at KI...different from everything else, so no "it competes with Diamondback/any other ride in the park" problem, and Cedar Point doesn't have one either...and they could design it to run numerous trains at once, for excellent capacity... And could it even be the tallest dive coaster in the world at 308 ft.? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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