Oldschool75 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Here is a crazy idea. Lets get a Kickstarter project started to have The Racer restored and painted to original colors. I sure CF wouldn't mind if people made donations. I know it may be a dumb idea in some peoples eyes, but I thought it would be a good idea. This is a historic coaster after all. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevKenny Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 BRING BACK BACKWARDS RACER!!!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrillcaptinspike Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I would love to see it with the original colors! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Hit the "submit" button too soon. See post below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I feel like a petition would be more appropriate considering that CF can most likely afford the repaint and renovation. The moment Cedar Fair and Kings Island becomes a semi-successful Youtube star with a need for a bigger budget for major projects THEN Kickstarter can be an option. The Racer also needs More accommodating and comfortable trains, better brakes, better capacity, improved crowd control in the station, an improved computer system, and many more on top of of the paint. I feel that a renovation is on the way for the 50th or the next time a coney mall addition is in town. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 For many reasons, I believe that The Racer should be left as it is for the foreseeable future. Yes, minor off-season repairs are always done, but as far as a "restoration" goes......I don't really want to see The Racer take that direction because at that point....I'm afraid it will be turned into something it is not. For a wooden roller coaster, "restoration" is only a good thing sometimes, and other times not so much at all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Great organizational idea, but it seems maybe the park could come up with a unique way to make this happen, especially for a repainting that for sure is needed, and maybe for a refurbished Coney Mall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It's an interesting idea, but I would think you'll need: 1.) More financial support than what this board can provide by itself, 2.) A way for Kings Island to legally accept the money with terms of use it would feel safe accepting, and 3.) Clearance with the maintenance folks, as at least one other park in the country cites improved inspectability as the reason why it doesn't paint it's wooden coaster. Not saying that's why KI hasn't painted Racer, but it's a possibility. Not meaning to rain on the parade, but it's stuff you'd have to consider. I'd absolutely love to see Racer in new red, white, and blue some opening day, but there may be reasons why it hasn't happened already. Given how much Cedar Fair has spent in the last 4 years on repainting rides, I don't know that lack of money is necessarily one reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Rolling Thunder needed repainting.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner822 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 i find racer just fine. the only thing i want is one side of it to go backwards again. i miss that so much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbill Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 My Racer wish list would be paint along with putting the last drops back in with their head choppers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I feel like a petition would be more appropriate considering that CF can most likely afford the repaint and renovation. The moment Cedar Fair and Kings Island becomes a semi-successful Youtube star with a need for a bigger budget for major projects THEN Kickstarter can be an option. The Racer also needs More accommodating and comfortable trains, better brakes, better capacity, improved crowd control in the station, an improved computer system, and many more on top of of the paint. I feel that a renovation is on the way for the 50th or the next time a coney mall addition is in town. Better Capacity? Racer's already one of, if not THE, highest capacity rides in the park thanks to the fact it is two-coasters-in-one. According to rcdb, Racer can handle 2,640 riders per hour. If that's not good enough capacity, then even Diamondback (Official Capacity: about 1600rph) needs more capacity. Could Racer use a new paint job? Yes. Does it need to be super-overhauled? IMO, nope. My Racer wish list would be paint along with putting the last drops back in with their head choppers. They can't. X-Base entrance is in the way. EDIT: Nevermind, I just compared some pictures and the X-Base entrance was NOT in the way of the final drop...why was it removed then? I dunno... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbill Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I was told by a good source that it was a miss calculation, I believe the Red side drop was removed a year after the Blue was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 No. No miscalculation. It had to do with changing braking systems. It had nothing to do with clearances underneath the ride. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I feel like a petition would be more appropriate considering that CF can most likely afford the repaint and renovation. The moment Cedar Fair and Kings Island becomes a semi-successful Youtube star with a need for a bigger budget for major projects THEN Kickstarter can be an option. The Racer also needs More accommodating and comfortable trains, better brakes, better capacity, improved crowd control in the station, an improved computer system, and many more on top of of the paint. I feel that a renovation is on the way for the 50th or the next time a coney mall addition is in town. Better Capacity? Racer's already one of, if not THE, highest capacity rides in the park thanks to the fact it is two-coasters-in-one. According to rcdb, Racer can handle 2,640 riders per hour. If that's not good enough capacity, then even Diamondback (Official Capacity: about 1600rph) needs more capacity. Could Racer use a new paint job? Yes. Does it need to be super-overhauled? IMO, nope. My Racer wish list would be paint along with putting the last drops back in with their head choppers. They can't. X-Base entrance is in the way. EDIT: Nevermind, I just compared some pictures and the X-Base entrance was NOT in the way of the final drop...why was it removed then? I dunno... 2,640 is a theoretical capacity when the ride opened. The current Racer gets about 500 pph per side on a good day. If everyone in line was 48" or over, bone skinny, and understood the restraints and bins policy plus no handicapped people where in line then it would be about 800 pph per side. If you are in that particular station for a while then you understand that it takes an extremely long time to get one train to load and leave and the next train to arrive and unload. This can be changed if the restraints are more accommodating, the load/ unload process is streamlined, and the cycle time is reduced. Coming from a person who was on The Racer crew I saw problems like these every day that could be fixed easily. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbill Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It was a lot faster to load with buzz bars. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner822 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 no matter what amusement park it is, if there is a racing coaster that is 2 different tracks (different being mirrored like racer at ki, dueling, or like colossus at magic mountain) i always count it as 2 roller coasters whether others say its just 1 coaster. the only racing coaster i know that is one single track is kennywood's racer. is grand national at blackpool 2 tracks or 1 track? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Grand National is a mobius--one continuous track. http://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&ca=108 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The odds of this happening are smaller than a Boomerang Bay Kickstarter..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I will never understand why some of you people want to donate your money/time to a for profit company such as Cedar Fair. If you want to donate money, then donate it to a legit charity that actually needs your money. BTW, if KI wanted to "restore" The Racer, they would. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I feel like a petition would be more appropriate considering that CF can most likely afford the repaint and renovation. The moment Cedar Fair and Kings Island becomes a semi-successful Youtube star with a need for a bigger budget for major projects THEN Kickstarter can be an option. The Racer also needs More accommodating and comfortable trains, better brakes, better capacity, improved crowd control in the station, an improved computer system, and many more on top of of the paint. I feel that a renovation is on the way for the 50th or the next time a coney mall addition is in town. Better Capacity? Racer's already one of, if not THE, highest capacity rides in the park thanks to the fact it is two-coasters-in-one. According to rcdb, Racer can handle 2,640 riders per hour. If that's not good enough capacity, then even Diamondback (Official Capacity: about 1600rph) needs more capacity. Could Racer use a new paint job? Yes. Does it need to be super-overhauled? IMO, nope. My Racer wish list would be paint along with putting the last drops back in with their head choppers. They can't. X-Base entrance is in the way. EDIT: Nevermind, I just compared some pictures and the X-Base entrance was NOT in the way of the final drop...why was it removed then? I dunno... 2,640 is a theoretical capacity when the ride opened. The current Racer gets about 500 pph per side on a good day. If everyone in line was 48" or over, bone skinny, and understood the restraints and bins policy plus no handicapped people where in line then it would be about 800 pph per side. If you are in that particular station for a while then you understand that it takes an extremely long time to get one train to load and leave and the next train to arrive and unload. This can be changed if the restraints are more accommodating, the load/ unload process is streamlined, and the cycle time is reduced. Coming from a person who was on The Racer crew I saw problems like these every day that could be fixed easily. Oh...thanks for filling me in on that. I wasn't fully aware of the loading/unloading issues, and was just thinking that the ride had higher capacity due to the fact it pulls about 1.2+ million riders per year and usually has a 20-minute or shorter wait when Diamondback and Beast are 60+ across the park. I have to wonder...does Beast have these same issues? Because both coasters use very similar train configurations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner822 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Grand National is a mobius--one continuous track. http://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&ca=108 so make that several racing coasters i know about that are actually one track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 If you really want to restore The Racers the last set of hills at the end need to go back in. Plus put the buzz bars and remove one the cars from each train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 ...which won't happen in the State of Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I feel like a petition would be more appropriate considering that CF can most likely afford the repaint and renovation. The moment Cedar Fair and Kings Island becomes a semi-successful Youtube star with a need for a bigger budget for major projects THEN Kickstarter can be an option. The Racer also needs More accommodating and comfortable trains, better brakes, better capacity, improved crowd control in the station, an improved computer system, and many more on top of of the paint. I feel that a renovation is on the way for the 50th or the next time a coney mall addition is in town. Better Capacity? Racer's already one of, if not THE, highest capacity rides in the park thanks to the fact it is two-coasters-in-one. According to rcdb, Racer can handle 2,640 riders per hour. If that's not good enough capacity, then even Diamondback (Official Capacity: about 1600rph) needs more capacity. Could Racer use a new paint job? Yes. Does it need to be super-overhauled? IMO, nope. My Racer wish list would be paint along with putting the last drops back in with their head choppers. They can't. X-Base entrance is in the way. EDIT: Nevermind, I just compared some pictures and the X-Base entrance was NOT in the way of the final drop...why was it removed then? I dunno... 2,640 is a theoretical capacity when the ride opened. The current Racer gets about 500 pph per side on a good day. If everyone in line was 48" or over, bone skinny, and understood the restraints and bins policy plus no handicapped people where in line then it would be about 800 pph per side. If you are in that particular station for a while then you understand that it takes an extremely long time to get one train to load and leave and the next train to arrive and unload. This can be changed if the restraints are more accommodating, the load/ unload process is streamlined, and the cycle time is reduced. Coming from a person who was on The Racer crew I saw problems like these every day that could be fixed easily. Oh...thanks for filling me in on that. I wasn't fully aware of the loading/unloading issues, and was just thinking that the ride had higher capacity due to the fact it pulls about 1.2+ million riders per year and usually has a 20-minute or shorter wait when Diamondback and Beast are 60+ across the park. I have to wonder...does Beast have these same issues? Because both coasters use very similar train configurations... Yes, But The Beast has three trains and the queue enters from the middle so those factors allow for the ride to have a better APPEARING capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 ^Thanks for filling me in. Sorry, I don't know as much about these PTC-train-using woodies as someone who's operated them...I've merely ridden them a few times and done research (my total count on Beast- the higher of the two, in fact the ride I've ridden the most- is 9). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnofthedead Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 If you really want to restore The Racers the last set of hills at the end need to go back in. Plus put the buzz bars and remove one the cars from each train. What do you mean last set of hills? Was The Racer longer in the last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 No. But there was a final bunny hop before the brake run...now replaced with straight track. Strictly speaking, this would slightly reduce the track length. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I will never understand why some of you people want to donate your money/time to a for profit company such as Cedar Fair. If you want to donate money, then donate it to a legit charity that actually needs your money. BTW, if KI wanted to "restore" The Racer, they would. Everybody read this again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I donate my money to liquor companies...because I live in Ohio. So do most of the panhandlers... Or so I am told. Edit: I was going for a rim shot. Not to be offensive...to those that may take offense. It sucks you have to post crap like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.