vortexfan 651 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It's also probably running with hard nylon wheels right now, which makes the train louder and faster. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 The train didn't brake at all through the MCBR. Typically, B&M Dive Coasters slow down a little bit. Tony said the track was too cold to stop the trains. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calakapepe 8130 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Yep, it'll get slower I was responding to someone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McSalsa 4583 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 With Shoot-The-Rapids now gone, some are wondering what will happen with the space opened up in that area. Well, a No Limits 2 user and Youtuber named OpticalKiwi (who previously made a RMC Mean Streak and predicted Fury 325 and Banshee fairly accurately based on the leaked blueprints of them) made a GCI Wooden Coaster called "Badlands" in that area in No Limits 2... Well, looks like it could be possible to build a GCI where Shoot-The-Rapids was...only question is now, will this actually happen or does Cedar Fair have something else in mind? Only time will tell. This is a cool concept IMO though thus why I wanted to share it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MDMC01 8407 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Interesting video; those pillars on that one turn remind me of a similar element on Adventure Express. However, I don't know if I like all the side-to-side motion as it reminds me of what I don't like about Thunderhead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoasterOhio 4809 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Why get a new roller coaster the year after a new roller coaster? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McSalsa 4583 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 ^To be honest, even if Cedar Point is actually replacing Shoot-the-Rapids with a GCI, I don't think it will happen THAT quick. 2018-19 at the earliest. Valravn hasn't even opened yet, and they will probably want to let the huge new B&M have at least a few years as the "big new thing". Also most videos like this add a year for some reason when doing "hypothetical concept rides" in areas where new rides can be added. I'm not sure why they do it as once that year passes, it looks a bit odd when the park actually does something else...for example see the "Kings Island 2014 Giga Coaster" concepts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Creed Bratton 14505 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Honesty, that coaster looks pretty BA.I enjoy GCI wooden coasters. I also enjoy that the coaster uses a lot of land but in a compact footprint (if that makes sense).I also enjoyed the Paddlewheel boat. Too bad that wouldn't be back. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 If you think about it Cedar Point had added a new "coaster experience" the last 4 years and could market it as the 5th in a row. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IBEW_Sparky 3594 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 While I know neither was "cheap", changing the restraints on Maverick, and converting Mantis to Rougarou is in a totally different financial league than building two multi million dollar complete roller coasters in back to back years. I saw this NL2 YouTube creation last week, and left it there where it belongs for a reason, because the title is not only misleading but also totally unrealistic. Its a REALLY good creation, but as McSalsa said, dont see anything like this happening until 2018 at the very earliest. EDIT: My reasoning is based on more than dollars and cents, it is also based on the article posted on these forums in recent days, that spoke of what the CF Marketing Team has been doing in regards to focusing on ALL of the parks. This is no longer "Kinzel Fair", where the lion's share of CapEx was most often focused on his Crown Jewel, in my very honest opinion I dont think people should expect another new coater installation at the Point until 2019/20. Granted, my little selfish desires would Love to see what Ive wanted to see since 2014.... a revision/conversion of Mean Streak.... but thinking about it using the current CF business model I have virtually abandoned that entire concept. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I just want a GCI somewhere in Ohio. It may be more likely for it to come to Kings Island due to its terrain and they don't make as much money as Cedar Point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tr0y 2139 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Is it possible CP is looking to overtake Six Flags Magic Mountain in coaster count? Or the other possibility that with CP's close proximity, CF's relationship with B&M, and the fact that Dive Coasters are not very popular in the U.S. That they got a great deal for the coaster and decided to go ahead and build another coaster, 3 years after spending roughly 30 million on Gatekeeper and main entrance upgrades? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Possible? Sure. Likely? No. Volume Deal? Sure. Likely? Certainly. But of what---and where? 'Helpful' Terpster 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Is it possible CP is looking to overtake Six Flags Magic Mountain in coaster count? Or the other possibility that with CP's close proximity, CF's relationship with B&M, and the fact that Dive Coasters are not very popular in the U.S. That they got a great deal for the coaster and decided to go ahead and build another coaster, 3 years after spending roughly 30 million on Gatekeeper and main entrance upgrades? B&M didnt give them a deal. The ride costed a little more than $15 million dollars that was leaked lol. It was probably around 20 million 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 And, IF the figures are even close to right, you know this is not "a deal" how exactly? What is the manufacturer's suggested retail price for the item in question? Terp, who works with cost estimators, engineers, project managers and consultants every day...among others...and who likes to ask questions. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Griffon at Busch Gardens was around 17 million I believe. Valravn is taller and longer so and the value of the US dollar has gone down so I would imagine that it would be more than 17 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gannersdaddy 2775 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Wow, they really have the webcams going strong at the park tonight. It is a pretty good lightshow! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gannersdaddy 2775 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Deleted double post Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Gal 568 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 That new coaster looks like a one trick pony. i hope we never get one here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Creed Bratton 14505 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Here? I'd love to have a Dive Coaster in my backyard! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thekidd33 1459 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The reviews so far seem to be pretty good! If nothing else, it certainly looks impressive! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Supposedly there are survey markers around Mean Streak already. We didn't get any markers for valravn until june/july if I recall. RMC always starts early on their projects and Id imagine Cedar Point would start super early so they don't miss opening weekend like some other parks. I'm not saying its confirmed but it is super early and the markers are everywhere apparently. I will be there on Sunday with a dslr. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 A laser tripod, a closed ride yesterday... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thekidd33 1459 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Per the CP webcams the line for Valravn is currently all the way back to the northern Skyride station. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calakapepe 8130 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 So what was the surprise for the Valravn queue? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thekidd33 1459 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 ^That it takes 4.5 hours to get through. 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 ...that they weren't in line for Mean Streak? Terp, who likes to ask questions. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stashua123 10207 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 So what was the surprise for the Valravn queue? I believe it was some VR Phone Experience that seemed pretty cool! http://www.wkyc.com/features/cedar-points-mysterious-valravn-secret-revealed/176419159 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Thus the 4.5 hour wait? Terp, who likes to ask questions. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
malem 19847 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Phone experiences in a queue for a ride where bags & loose articles must be secured in a locker or with a non-rider seem like an inherently bad idea. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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