The Interpreter 82068 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 SIX envy? Terp, who likes to ask questions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTD-120-420 12079 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 What does the Shoot the Rapids area look like? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I saw the new markings for myself. I saw hundreds of Mean Streak's footers marked with an orange dot. All of the footers were on the outer portion of the ride. I don't think GCI touched the footers on Ghostrider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Gal 568 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Is this new coaster like the one at Busch Gardens Tampa bay? If so I did not find it thrilling. Maybe if it was taller like top thrill dragster it would be better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oldiesmann 14426 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Same type of coaster and same manufacturer, but the one at CP is taller, faster and longer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Gal 568 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Thanks, after doing some research Cedar Point built theirs like 20' higher. I wonder why they did not go a lot bigger? Can those coasters not go much taller than the low 200's? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rcwizard13 4634 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Bigger doesn't mean better. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freaks76 3980 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Think I may go up and give Valravn a spin Sunday. I think I may have a problem, drive four hours just to ride a coaster...... 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast Gal 568 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Bigger doesn't mean better. I would normally agree but they look like the same thing only a couple stories taller and a couple hundred feet longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steph88 3809 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Valravn also has more inversions. Valravn has 3 while Sheikra (Busch Gardens Tampa) only has one. I loved Sheikra so I can't wait to ride Valravn someday. Probably next year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VekomaRulz 427 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I also liked Sheikra, probably my 3rd favorite coaster in the park after Montu and Cheetah Hunt. Valravn looks really great and I'm hoping to get back there sometime in the next few years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcgoble3 26456 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I personally found ShieKra boring. Given that, I'm not really excited for Valravn. EDIT: On the other hand, this seems exciting, if a bit expensive: https://www.cedarpoint.com/plan-a-visit/sunrise-thrills-vip-tourEDIT 2: I gave the tour its own thread: http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php/topic/31996-cedar-point-sunrise-thrills-tour/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Creed Bratton 14505 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Think I may go up and give Valravn a spin Sunday. I think I may have a problem, drive four hours just to ride a coaster...... Hoeter and I are doing that this weekend. Bigger doesn't mean better. I would normally agree but they look like the same thing only a couple stories taller and a couple hundred feet longer. Compare TTD and Kingda Ka.....only a few feet taller and a few hundred feet longer.....they look like the same thing minus Kingda Ka's airtime hill.....Kingda Ka is bigger and definitely not better. The thing that drives me crazy is that people claim it to be boring and not amazing yet they haven't ridden it. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTD-120-420 12079 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Bigger doesn't mean better. I agree regarding coasters like Maverick, but come on. This thing's main selling point is a giant straight down drop. I'm not saying they should have made it bigger (I think they should have made something else entirely, but that's not for this thread) but you can't just throw that "Bigger isn't always better" tagline out there when that is comparing apples and oranges. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
purdude86 2056 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Have to agree TTD. In general bigger doesn't always equal better, but when the main feature/marketing point of the attraction's design is a vertical drop (along with a hold peering down it at the top), a higher drop would enhance that part of the experience. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KIBeast 1646 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Maybe bigger was cost prohibitive. Never been on a dive coaster, but I will definitely give Valravn as spin on my next trip there. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ride On_17 11792 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I thought Valravn was awesome. I rode in the middle of the back row and the ride experience exceeded my expectations. I thought the vertical drop was very intense, and it felt like it lasted forever. The entire ride was also incredibly smooth; in fact, it might be the smoothest coaster at the park. The drop after the MCBR was also very fun, and the final inversion reminded me a lot of Banshee's inline twist, which I absolutely love. Even though I have no other dive coasters to compare it to, I think this coaster is a winner. Plus it makes such a bold impression visually when watching the ride and walking around it. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freaks76 3980 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Yea, this will be my first one, too. Matter of fact that's my whole point in goin up there Sunday. 4 hrs. To ride 1 coaster. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckeye Brad 254 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I personally found ShieKra boring. I rode Sheikra last year for the first time, and I understand. If I ride it as a thrill coaster, I'm not as impressed as most of the forces are on the gentle side and the actual coasting time seems brief. If I ride it as some kind of Frankencoaster / Demon Drop contraption with bonus track, I find it way more exciting. The holding brake and mid course brake (just before the second drop) were a hoot, and there was a kind of camaraderie amongst the riders as we hung and screamed together. It also helped that my 10 year old son was nuts for Sheikra. My opinion of a coaster soars if my riding buddies are loving it. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MDMC01 8407 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 When I get up to The Point (hopefully this summer...), Valravn will be my first dive coaster as well. I'm also intrigued to ride Rougarou and Wicked Twister in row 12 (to compare it to Possessed in the same row) and of course, Millennium Force and the best coaster in the wild wild west- Maverick! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I was very underwhelmed by it but I do like how beautiful it looks. It was a good addition but I would have prefered a much cheaper GCI twister woodie. Even a clone of Gold Striker would be great. EDIT: Valravn has my all time favorite brake run though. Its so fast, it may be my favorite part of the ride honestly XD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ride On_17 11792 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 When I get up to The Point (hopefully this summer...), Valravn will be my first dive coaster as well. I'm also intrigued to ride Rougarou and Wicked Twister in row 12 (to compare it to Possessed in the same row) and of course, Millennium Force and the best coaster in the wild wild west- Maverick! Gotta love Cowboy Coaster! (Ride On_17, cross threadin') 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 My number 1. But only in row 1. Other rows? "Is that all there is?" 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thrill_Biscuit 17185 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 EDIT - Wrong thread (this keeps happening; I could swear I clicked on another thread)... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGalati 139 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 My first dive coaster will be Griffon, and will be my first visit back to BGW and KD since the 80's. Have lots of catching up to do. CP in June/July. Does Griffon have the shoulder restraints similar to Valravn or are they the older painful kind like Raptor. Thinking out loud, since Valravn is 8 wide and the newer restraints have slightly wider space requirements, and Griffon is 10 wide, I am guessing they are the older style. ....off to look for pictures... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silver2005 25322 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Valravn has the newer style B&M restraints as seen on Gatekeeper and Banshee. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragsterguy21 717 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 My first dive coaster will be Griffon, and will be my first visit back to BGW and KD since the 80's. Have lots of catching up to do. CP in June/July. Does Griffon have the shoulder restraints similar to Valravn or are they the older painful kind like Raptor. Thinking out loud, since Valravn is 8 wide and the newer restraints have slightly wider space requirements, and Griffon is 10 wide, I am guessing they are the older style. ....off to look for pictures... It is super smooth though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freaks76 3980 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 After what seems like forever today. Finally made it. 16 hours early, even. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 82068 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Have a FUN time! (Not to be confused with Funtime). Terp -- who cares. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Creed Bratton 14505 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Valravn front row was killer! So much fun! I enjoyed it, first Dive Coaster for me! Sent from the cellphone Zach Morris used in Saved By The Bell using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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