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8 hours ago, JCoaster25 said:

@DustinTheNow Looking forward to seeing your work! But just for fun I figured I'd post a POV of my take on our giga.

Enjoy everyone! =)

 

Great job with this. This is the closest one I've seen to correctly hitting the banking transitions. Others have been too snappy or too drawn out. Seeing the other rides near by is neat too to see the perspective of things.

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4 minutes ago, fryoj said:

Capacity is a product of how quickly guests leave the station more than length of ride. I'm sure someone else on here knows the average time for a train to enter a station, remove guests, reload, and leave the station. But the recreations look like around 2 minute for the train to leave the station and run the course. That would be mean they need a train to leave the station every 1 minute to run at peak capacity. I think they are going to stack trains because that seems really quick. 

Agreed, that was another thing I was wondering about to be honest. The crew is going to have to be very efficient for it all to work. 

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9 hours ago, JCoaster25 said:

@DustinTheNow Looking forward to seeing your work! But just for fun I figured I'd post a POV of my take on our giga.

Enjoy everyone! =)

 

That was really well done, I only wish there was a VR version.

Flying by all those trees in the back, The Racer, and through the supports makes this feel so fast. One of my few complaints about Fury is the openness of it. I love how tight the space gets in the back end.

edit: and now that I'm looking even more closely, every time this coaster valleys out it's among trees, except for right after the speed hill, post turn around where it's weaving through the supports. Last pictures I saw showed there were still trees standing where the ride bottoms out right before the helix also, which weren't in the video.

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18 minutes ago, fryoj said:

Capacity is a product of how quickly guests leave the station more than length of ride. I'm sure someone else on here knows the average time for a train to enter a station, remove guests, reload, and leave the station. But the recreations look like around 2 minute for the train to leave the station and run the course. That would be mean they need a train to leave the station every 1 minute to run at peak capacity. I think they are going to stack trains because that seems really quick. 

Any Fury or Levi operators on here? That'll be the closest comparison. Same train size/layout, same 'pressure' to get the trains out quickly.

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Not an operator, but fury ops are usually insane. They’ll have a train on the course, a train stopped on the track in front of the station, and a train rolling into the station. This is all helped by the gates, which open for 5 seconds, no more. If you don’t make it, tough luck. You have to wait for the next train.

Best ops I have ever seen.


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After watching the various videos of interpretations of the blueprints, I thought I’d be more excited about the coaster’s potential. I’m not.

The videos are well done and look realistic, but it just ends so abruptly. And I keep hearing “but Fury kind of fizzles out toward the end”. Well then, fix that...don’t end it like Fury. Add some low to the ground s turns (like El Toro or Lightning Run) and speed hills after the helix. 

Also: it’s spelled “queue”. “Que” is Spanish for “what”.

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5 minutes ago, supertrooper said:

After watching the various videos of interpretations of the blueprints, I thought I’d be more excited about the coaster’s potential. I’m not.

The videos are well done and look realistic, but it just ends so abruptly. And I keep hearing “but Fury kind of fizzles out toward the end”. Well then, fix that...don’t end it like Fury. Add some low to the ground s turns (like El Toro or Lightning Run) and speed hills after the helix. 

Exactly. Steel Vengeance is a blast from the drop to the brake. Just make the elements smaller!

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I will say that in terms of length, the ride would be better and feel more satisfying if the dive loop turn was a giant downward helix like the ones found on the Morgan hypers, like Mamba and Steel Force. Doesn’t alter the footprint too heavily, stays low to the ground (which saves on support costs), and adds to the sensation of speed. But I don’t know the terrain, and I’m not the one spending $30 million, so I’m not entirely sure.

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Need your help! Take a vote on what name you would like the Giga to be called / think it will be called! 

Laugh Response for — Polaris 

Thank You Response for — X-301

Confused Response for — Shooting Star

 

or reply back with a new idea! ... Concept with the most votes will be a part of my no limits recreation with a (semi) professional looking logo! 

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1 minute ago, DustinTheNow said:

Need your help! Take a vote on what name you would like the Giga to be called / think it will be called! 

Laugh Response for — Polaris 

Thank You Response for — X-301

Confused Response for — Shooting Star

 

or reply back with a new idea! ... Concept with the most votes will be a part of my no limits recreation with a (semi) professional looking logo! 

Orion 301

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25 minutes ago, DustinTheNow said:

Need your help! Take a vote on what name you would like the Giga to be called / think it will be called! 

Laugh Response for — Polaris 

Thank You Response for — X-301

Confused Response for — Shooting Star

 

or reply back with a new idea! ... Concept with the most votes will be a part of my no limits recreation with a (semi) professional looking logo! 

Trophy for Orion

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2 hours ago, fryoj said:

We do know the height. Those other things aren't going to be on blueprints. Blueprints aren't used to tell people about the ride. It's to tell the people building it what they need to know to build it. 

Huh? Why did the supposed height change in the last couple days? Seems like even with the blueprints no one knows what the final height will be.

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2 minutes ago, refrigerator said:

Huh? Why did the supposed height change in the last couple days? Seems like even with the blueprints no one knows what the final height will be.

It depends on where you measure it from, which is ultimately up to KI. The lift crest is 286' above the ground directly below it, and 296' above the ground below the station, and just for kicks, like 440' above Little Miami River. We don't know where they're going to call 'zero' at.

 

I did recently change my estimate because I noticed a note on the original blueprints that call 740'=0', which happens to be the same height below the station, so that's why I changed my estimate to 296'. 

 

We know the crest elevation is 1035.9', but where they consider ground height to be is up to the park and marketing team. 

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I think you should do either Orion or Polaris for the concept’s ride name as those seem to be the most likely as of now. I do like Shooting Star, but Cedar Fair would never use that name for a new rollercoaster as it is not modern. X-301 sounds really cool as well, but I still do not see Cedar Fair opting for that name. Anyways, looking forward to seeing your concept!

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10 minutes ago, spooky21 said:

Do we know if fury is actually 325? What about Intimidator 305? Also Leviathan? Were there blueprints showing the heights stated as true??

I searched for blueprints for Fury and Levi, and only found site plans for Fury, not enough to get a height from. 

We're taking the park at their word that the heights are legit. 

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7 minutes ago, spooky21 said:

So then for all we know the other Giga's aren't the same height as the blueprints. I'd like to know more on this but don't know how to acquire the information.

Best guess I have is going to the local city/county office where the park is and requesting building permits/blueprints for whatever project you're interested in. Still no gaurentee, and I don't know how many years back they retain that information, but that's how we got the KI blueprints. 

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They should totally advertise this as the world's tallest hyper coaster. At 299 feet we'd probably hold that record forever lol

Honestly this is a pretty great marketing campaign. All the news outlets will call it the world’s tallest rollercoaster and that will get the GP excited.


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