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You guys did this to yourselves by going to the the city records and getting the blueprints way too early. I thought the whole idea to this thread was to decode all the way to the announcement, just like with Banshee and Mystic Timbers. Some of you guys kinda ruined the whole decoding by getting too impatient and wanting to find your Christmas present before it was given to you. You just couldn’t wait for the park to start the teasing. I’m sorry if I’m coming off as a parent, but something needed to be said.


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Just now, THE_BEASTmaster said:

You guys did this to yourselves by going to the the city records and getting the blueprints way too early. I thought the whole idea to this thread was to decode all the way to the announcement, just like with Banshee and Mystic Timbers. Some of you guys kinda ruined the whole decoding by getting too impatient and wanting to find your Christmas present before it was given to you. You just couldn’t wait for the park to start the teasing. I’m sorry if I’m coming off as a parent, but something needed to be said.


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I wasn't here back in 2013, but are you telling me that if I go look through the Banshee decoding thread, there wouldn't be blueprints there? I know a layout showed up in the Mystic Timbers thread as well. I think it made perfect sense to go check the blueprints seeing as the whole idea was to figure out what they're building. Mostly I just wish the thread was still more active I'm not really bummed we already know what the ride is. I do think this would all be a lot more interesting if the park was teasing the thing though. Kind of a bummer that we haven't seen any of that yet.

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I wasn't here back in 2013, but are you telling me that if I go look through the Banshee decoding thread, there wouldn't be blueprints there? I know a layout showed up in the Mystic Timbers thread as well. I think it made perfect sense to go check the blueprints seeing as the whole idea was to figure out what they're building. Mostly I just wish the thread was still more active I'm not really bummed we already know what the ride is. I do think this would all be a lot more interesting if the park was teasing the thing though. Kind of a bummer that we haven't seen any of that yet.


The blueprints for Banshee didn’t show up until a few weeks prior to the announcement. You guys got the 2020 blueprints weeks after the land clearing had started.


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Just now, THE_BEASTmaster said:

 


The blueprints for Banshee didn’t show up until a few weeks prior to the announcement. You guys got the 2020 blueprints weeks after the land clearing had started.


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If no one from here did it, I'm sure someone else would've. Those plans were bound to show up on some YouTube video or r/rollercoasters regardless. I still think there will be more discussion taking place when/if the park ever starts a teaser campaign. We still don't know what the name is for sure, or what the theme is. 

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42 minutes ago, ldhudsonjr said:

If no one from here did it, I'm sure someone else would've. Those plans were bound to show up on some YouTube video or r/rollercoasters regardless. I still think there will be more discussion taking place when/if the park ever starts a teaser campaign. We still don't know what the name is for sure, or what the theme is. 

No, @THE_BEASTmaster is right. People are to blame for this. Everyone wants to be the one to leak the information which ruins the fun. Its like spoiling Avengers Endgame after seeing it on opening night. People just can't resist. Concepts from Dustin have been awesome but I would have rather it been a suprise. And its not like you can just leave the internet- its everywhere. It was fun when the most we knew was it was a coaster by B&M and that was all.

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14 hours ago, SonofBaconator said:

No, @THE_BEASTmaster is right. People are to blame for this. Everyone wants to be the one to leak the information which ruins the fun. Its like spoiling Avengers Endgame after seeing it on opening night. People just can't resist. Concepts from Dustin have been awesome but I would have rather it been a suprise. And its not like you can just leave the internet- its everywhere. It was fun when the most we knew was it was a coaster by B&M and that was all.

I guess I just don't get this mindset. If the information is out there and available, I don't see why you wouldn't want it posted in a thread thats entire purpose is figuring out what kind of ride Kings Island is building. How would this process have been more interesting if we decided to remain blind and just guess the whole time? All I'm saying is that it seems weird to open up a decoding thread but then act as if people did something wrong looking for answers. Don't misunderstand, I see how it could spoil the fun for some people, but I guess my advice would be, don't visit the decoding thread?

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I guess I just don't get this mindset. If the information is out there and available, I don't see why you wouldn't want it posted in a thread that's entire purpose is figuring out what kind of ride Kings Island is building. How would this process have been more interesting if we  decided we were going to remain blind and just guess the whole time? All I'm saying is that it seems weird to open up a decoding thread but then act as if people did something wrong looking for answers. Don't get me wrong, I see how it could spoil the fun for some people though.

What made the past decodings fun was that no one knew who the manufacturers were or what type of coasters we were getting. In the 2014 decoding thread their was emotional debates as to who the manufacturer was between B&M and Intamin, and the type of coaster. For the 2017 decoding it was mostly the manufacturer debate between GCI and RMC, along with the “Bring back Son of Beast” campaigns. No one went out of their way to get blueprints until weeks before the coaster’s announcement date.


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4 minutes ago, THE_BEASTmaster said:


What made the past decodings fun was that no one knew who the manufacturers were or what type of coasters we were getting.

That definitely sounds like it was fun and it would be cool if it was all a little tougher to figure out, but it's just really hard to keep things under wraps these days with information so easy to access. iirc people knew the manufacturer before decoding even started.

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2 hours ago, THE_BEASTmaster said:

You guys did this to yourselves by going to the the city records and getting the blueprints way too early. I thought the whole idea to this thread was to decode all the way to the announcement, just like with Banshee and Mystic Timbers. Some of you guys kinda ruined the whole decoding by getting too impatient and wanting to find your Christmas present before it was given to you. You just couldn’t wait for the park to start the teasing. I’m sorry if I’m coming off as a parent, but something needed to be said.


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The park is legally required to file blueprints with the City for construction. Nothing was leaked, it’s all public record. If you want to yell at someone, go yell at the politicians who made the Freedom of Information Act or the ones who made the act that made businesses required to file blueprints before construction. 

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2 hours ago, THE_BEASTmaster said:

You guys did this to yourselves by going to the the city records and getting the blueprints way too early. I thought the whole idea to this thread was to decode all the way to the announcement, just like with Banshee and Mystic Timbers. Some of you guys kinda ruined the whole decoding by getting too impatient and wanting to find your Christmas present before it was given to you. You just couldn’t wait for the park to start the teasing. I’m sorry if I’m coming off as a parent, but something needed to be said.


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The blueprints for Mystic Timbers were posted in June on the decoding thread. I remember that vividly. 

 

The blueprints for Banshee were not posted until maybe a week before the announcement. But we had the blueprints for MT early as well.

There is no reason to argue about what should/shouldn’t have been done. There is no reason to be negative.  

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What is there to be angry about I’m really puzzled as to why people get worked up about this stuff. 

 

I resprct everyone on here here but sometimes I leave here scratching my head as to why people get genuinely angered about stuff as insignificant as coaster blueprint a leaking and the design being subpar. 

In the grand scheme of things there is 1,000,000 things in life more important than rollercoasters. Yes I enjoy them, but to get angered about stuff this insignificant does  create a toxic environment.  I’ll speak for myself and say that I really enjoyed when the blueprints leaked. It was really exciting and the thread was popping. You can’t look at it from the grass is always greener side.  

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38 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said:

This sums up people's anger exactly. Its like peaking at your Christmas presents too early.

I don't know about you, but I've never received a Christmas present that was a matter of public record, let alone a multimillion dollar investment destined to thrill millions of people across the nation and beyond.

We have had a layout for BGW's 2020 coaster and IOA's 2020 or 2021 for months. It's pretty routine for blueprints to hit the internet well before a coaster is announced, and it has been for some time. There's no use scolding anyone about it.  I'm still excited for an official announcement, and betting on a coaster that'll exceed expectations.

And as has been said, it's all a matter of perspective, I'm stoked to watch another giga be constructed. 

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I'm just confused as to the nature of this thread now that we know what we're getting.  The speculation on the name, theming, etc isn't really 'decoding', but more so entirely speculation, especially with the name guessing since even with trademarked names, how many times have CF actually used those names?  We didn't ever pin DB, Banshee or Mystic Timbers for the name despite many trademarked names that came out for all 3.  I think we should move on to make this a construction thread since that's where were at.  You guys keep complaining people being off topic when you keep going back off-topic constantly, even when those topics have their own threads which shows laziness.  There's a severe lack of consistency.  

At the moment people actually put the numbers on the blueprint into the actual layout and showed what it is, this thread served its purpose and became obsolete IMHO.  

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12 hours ago, brendan71388 said:

If you don’t want your Christmas presents to be spoiled before Christmas morning, don’t peak. 

Ok so this has all gotten out of hand. All of this started because someone said the thread was inactive yesterday. No one is upset because they saw their Christmas present or whatever. The unpleasant tone this thread 's developing is totally unnecessary. 

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1 minute ago, silver2005 said:

At the moment people actually put the numbers on the blueprint into the actual layout and showed what it is, this thread served its purpose and became obsolete IMHO.  

Umm, excuse me...we have had a very enterprising young member, @collin.klopfstein, helping us decode track and support color! But maybe it's time for a construction thread or just to rename this one.

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1 minute ago, aj74205 said:

Umm, excuse me...we have had a very enterprising young member, @collin.klopfstein, helping us decode track and support color! But maybe it's time for a construction thread or just to rename this one.

Oh yeah!

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24 minutes ago, ldhudsonjr said:

Per mods we won't be doing a construction thread until after the announcement.

This makes absolutely no sense, as this coaster is definitely under construction.  Whether it has been announced officially or not is irrelevant.

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3 minutes ago, LovinMeSomeBanshee said:

This makes absolutely no sense, as this coaster is definitely under construction.  Whether it has been announced officially or not is irrelevant.

I mean I don't know what the reasoning is I'm just telling you that's the decision that was made. Not sure why everyone is in such a hurry to kill this thread though.

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2 hours ago, KIghostguy said:

The park is legally required to file blueprints with the City for construction. Nothing was leaked, it’s all public record. If you want to yell at someone, go yell at the politicians who made the Freedom of Information Act or the ones who made the act that made businesses required to file blueprints before construction. 

I’m guessing this has to do with letting communities know what is coming and how it will impact them (such as if it’s a store, church, concert venue, etc.) However, as we’ve seen, this ease of access can have unintended consequences...

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6 minutes ago, MDMC01 said:

However, as we’ve seen, this ease of access can have unintended consequences...

Couldn't have said it better myself

This thread has become obsolete. A huge majority of these the Pages has been talking about other things that don't pertain to this topic, arguments on whether the blueprints are legitimate or not, Etc. This thread goes through about 5 pages a day and maybe one or two posts on those pages contain actual relevant information worth decoding. 

Anybody can go down to the city of Mason and get information but once that information is received there's not much to decode is there? A lot of us of try to keep this read on topic by bringing up certain things such as theme, and some of the few things left to decipher, but people continue to go off topic. 

I remember joining this forum back in 2012 knowing nothing about what was going to come after Son of Beast or what would come in 2017 and that was fun.

I only come on this thread anymore to speculate but everything's already been pretty much confirmed by blueprints to the point where there's nothing left decode. If this thread is going to exist as a decoding thread then people should post stuff that pertains to decoding. The funs already been ruined so we might as well get as much information is we can out of it.

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The whole point of this thread was to decode and figure out what the park was getting in 2020. Yeah, we may have figured it out faster than some people would have liked, but I think the mission was accomplished! I think it is cool how so many people were so dedicated and spent quality time going out to get blueprints, making concepts, and taking pictures of track for us to enjoy. Heck, we even had a couple of people with so much passion that they went out and flew planes to get pictures for us. Are people sad that most of it is over now... yeah, but it was fun while it lasted. I, for one do not feel the slightest bit of disappointment, and I enjoyed every minute of the past few months worth of decoding. I think the problem is that people enjoyed decoding this project so much, and they are just sad to see it be over. I completely understand that but like @TheBEASTunchained said way back on page 1, “Here’s to 2020!”

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11 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said:

The funs already been ruined

I'm sorry you feel that way. When was the last time a coaster of this scale was announced that you didn't have a good idea what it would be? The 'decoding' may be all but done, but the best parts lie ahead! It's not every season a 300' coaster goes up.

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For those who want to talk about the construction then for the time being talk about it in this thread. It is really not that big of a deal.

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