Vortex39 36 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, DeltaFlyer said: When I measured the footing and got 18" So you are saying the footer you used on the diagram is drawn to exact scale in relation to everything else in the diagram and you extrapolated your math from there, right? Thanks. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
riptombraider 217 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Another person asked this and it went neglected, and I’ve been wondering this too. There has to be a chance that B&M has a new lift system that can go steeper than the assumed 45 degree lift? 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Banding Banshee 129 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, ucgrady said: This is unfortunately not true. Source, am architect. Yep, I was wrong. My Bad 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
starlitfire 194 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I'm not an experienced member by any means, but I think we all need to remember a good member (The Interpreter)'s (paraphrased) words to us all: Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
DubVLegend 1297 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Anonpirate said: Sorry dont look at that it is private. Mr Helbig is that you??? 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Bwb.32 254 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Banding Banshee said: @DustinTheNow Is your layout of the track you drew based off the coordinates of the supports im pretty sure hes just poking fun at those who dont want to share the pdf hahaha 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Reesesp56 126 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, DustinTheNow said: Found the screenshot Reminds me of the DB layout that got leaked way back when... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
ucgrady 156 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, Vortex39 said: So... basically you're determining this by saying that the footing is 3 feet wide... and it's to exact scale with everything else in the diagram... and a little over 111 of those footings would fit withing the length of that lift hill? Thus around 335 feet? How did a program determine this? Is it measuring pixels from the .jpg? Or basically like a ruler overlay? Are things like representations of footings drawn to *exact scale* in diagrams like these? I had always assumed not. I would assume the actual distance scale they put on there would be accurate. Can you explain how you arrived at this in a little more detail? This guy or gal used Bluebeam, and yes it has a measuring tool based off an initial calibration. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaFlyer 832 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Vortex39 said: So you are saying the footer you used on the diagram is drawn to exact scale in relation to everything else in the diagram and you extrapolated your math from there, right? Thanks. Correct. I've double checked it with the detail that dimensions the footing at the base of the lift as well. Section 1/S3.3. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ohiocoasterfan 1634 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I’m so confused. I can’t tell what’s real anymore lol. Was this real? Who made this? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
FirefighterENG44 271 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 No way in hell thats real. I could have drawn that with my eyes closed. I’ll believe it when I see. Seems to work best for me although this thread is definitely entertaining 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Shaggy 5047 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, ohiocoasterfan said: I’m so confused. I can’t tell what’s real anymore lol. Was this real? Who made this? Best quote of the day! My sentiments exactly! Lol!!! 7 Link to post Share on other sites
presto123 1976 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, DeltaFlyer said: Correct. I've double checked it with the detail that dimensions the footing at the base of the lift as well. Section 1/S3.3. You standing by your 335 prediction? Thanks for all info. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
CedarFairFan787 191 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Can someone PM the leaked photo that was quickly deleted. I want to see it, too. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
CoasterMegRN 142 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 If we can't see the screen shots of the PDF could a user who saw it at least draw us up a version of the layout like the one above? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaFlyer 832 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, presto123 said: You standing by your 335 prediction? Thanks for all info. For now. It's possible the actual angle could be 46° or 44°, which would change things slightly. This is just an estimation based on an image. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
DonkeyKong 234 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Can someone PM the leaked photo that was quickly deleted. I want to see it, too. It’s not going to happen buddy sorry to tell you haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RuthlessAirtime 960 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, ohiocoasterfan said: I’m so confused. I can’t tell what’s real anymore lol. Was this real? Who made this? Absolutely not real @Codyfryguy @Ben43065 where you at? Dump the goods! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CedarFairFan787 191 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 May I ask why I, along with other members, can't seem to get our hands on the PDF? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bengalsguy23 379 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I think all the people who have the screenshot and aren't sending it just like the attention. Sad really. Wouldn't't be surprised if some of the people claiming they have seen it really haven't. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
RuthlessAirtime 960 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, CedarFairFan787 said: May I ask why I, along with other members, can't seem to get our hands on the PDF? We are surrounded by meanies who are holdin out on us 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CedarFairFan787 191 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, bengalsguy23 said: I think all the people who have the screenshot and aren't sending it just like the attention. Sad really. Wouldn't't be surprised if some of the people claiming they have seen it really haven't. I agree! Some people might just be looking for attention. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
fryoj 4182 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Bwb.32 said: okay so uh? you have the lift hill going the wrong direction? soooooo? the real blueprints we can prove are real show the lift going project north. not the direction youve drawn it. Except, as was proven on the Mystic Timbers Plans, Plan North, And True North are not the same. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bansheeback 910 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, bengalsguy23 said: I think all the people who have the screenshot and aren't sending it just like the attention. Sad really. Wouldn't't be surprised if some of the people claiming they have seen it really haven't. That’d be like RuthlessAirtime and I went and got the documents, told everyone we had them, and then said we weren’t sharing them. 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Sorner 332 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 This is wild. I don’t know what to believe!! We’re the plans REALLY leaked? Or is this just something a few people said happened? I feel like this is fake. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
CedarFairFan787 191 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 This is so confusing. My brain hurts from trying to interpret all of this info. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Vortex39 36 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, DeltaFlyer said: Correct. I've double checked it with the detail that dimensions the footing at the base of the lift as well. Section 1/S3.3. But as Kissfan4 said a couple of pages back, and what I have always thought as well, "They will use the coordinate sheet for the locations, then use the detail drawings provided for the specific dimensions and tolerances the footers have to meet." i.e. they show the footers location but they're not drawn to scale, i.e. you can't scale things off the representation of footers on the diagram. They're not to scale. The only thing we have to go on to give scale is the actual length scale they gave us, that's its purpose, which indicates the lift hill is around 200 feet long. You're saying the length scale is wrong because of your estimation based on the footers as represented on the diagram. It seems to me that the actual length scale given is more likely to be accurate than to scale things off a 15 pixel wide representation of a footer, which from what I can gather, is not intended to be scale accurate. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin22 2413 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Yeah because I’ve gotten a ton of positive attention from this. Is it that hard to believe that I actually care about people’s hard work and don’t want to leak the entirety of the project that was not supposed to be leaked? I thought the second I saw the layout I’d be filled with joy and happiness with knowing what’s coming to the park but instead I’m filled with anxiety. This whole summer we could all have looked forward to all the tiny clues and rumors and have fun debunking them but instead you guys want to know almost everything there is to know. I get it you are all curious but think about the park for once. If you were Don or Chad would you really want everything leaked like that by someone who Broke their NDA? Sorry for thinking about the park instead of myself. 5 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Reesesp56 126 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, FirefighterENG44 said: No way in hell thats real. I could have drawn that with my eyes closed. I’ll believe it when I see. Seems to work best for me although this thread is definitely entertaining I'm thinking it's not legit as well, but dont discount things just because they seem simple... 7 Link to post Share on other sites
CedarFairFan787 191 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, Ben43065 said: Yeah because I’ve gotten a ton of positive attention from this. Is it that hard to believe that I actually care about people’s hard work and don’t want to leak the entirety of the project that was not supposed to be leaked? I thought the second I saw the layout I’d be filled with joy and happiness with knowing what’s coming to the park but instead I’m filled with anxiety. This whole summer we could all have looked forward to all the tiny clues and rumors and have fun debunking them but instead you guys want to know almost everything there is to know. I get it you are all curious but think about the park for once. If you were Don or Chad would you really want everything leaked like that by someone who Broke their NDA? Sorry for thinking about the park instead of myself. Can you at least tell us if it looks good or not? I just want to know a little about what is coming. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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