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Dive is the new Invert?

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In the 90s, Inverts were the craze as nearly 20 were produced from 1992 to 1999. Now we're getting close to the 2020s and newer models have surfaced, one of which being the Dive Machine/Coaster. 

Dive Machines have been popping up around the world and have taken the GP by storm. With their popularity I think its safe to argue that Dive coasters are becoming the new invert.

Sooner or later I think we'll see different variations of the B&M Dive Machine such as 100ft multi-looping models similar to Gerstlauer and possibly even a giga dive, (if a park is willing to shell out the money.)

What are your thoughts? 

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I'd agree, Inverts seem pretty saturated as are floorless/sitting models. I think we aren't going to see a giga dive anytime soon though as that might be too much of an investment for Six Flags and Cedar Point has one. One could possibly come to Carowinds. Would be pretty funny if KI got one though - you wanted a giga coaster? Have all the giga's you can handle!

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On 5/15/2019 at 9:25 AM, Theoutdoorkid107 said:

Your onto something. I think we will see Dive Machines in many of Cedar Fair’s parks in the upcoming years. 

I've made it known that Dive Machines are my favorite style of coaster so I wouldn't be upset if more came our way. They're the perfect coaster for parks since they are GP eaters and they can fit in tight spaces.

Its a stretch but World's of Fun deserves something big. I also wouldn't be suprised if Carowinds or Great America received one in the distant future.

The next thing I would want to see them do is closer to 100ft and have it chock full of inversions like a true looping coaster. 

I would love for KI to get one but I don't see that happening anytime in the near or distant future; at least not until the amusement park world has become saturated with them.

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Think it's a bit of a tug of war between them for which is the bigger go right now. Think wings can have good visual appeal when done right with the near misses. But could see dives overall becoming a real go to for many for the reasons SonofBaconaor stated. Being a more compact design if needed can make it fit into more places easily and possibly help keep costs down with less land clearing needed

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I think flying coasters are slowly going the way of the stand up coaster at this point.  They're really not that comfortable regardless of who makes them.  Inverted, floorless and wing coasters pull off that sense of flight and unobstructed views and seating better.  

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I think part of the success recently of dives is that many other coaster types are already spoken for at parks.  While I prefer wings to dives, I think we will continue to see more dives because they are compact and visually appealing and seem to be more cost effective than wings.

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I had some kind of wild grand vision in my head that I should have tried to actually convey, but I can't really. A hybrid wing/ drop where the seats actually pivot as the come over the crest of the drop, so it's more like a drop ride through the dive was more what was in my head. Sounds like I'm in the process of developing a 100 million dollar coaster. 

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1 hour ago, lifetimecoaster said:

I had some kind of wild grand vision in my head that I should have tried to actually convey, but I can't really. A hybrid wing/ drop where the seats actually pivot as the come over the crest of the drop, so it's more like a drop ride through the dive was more what was in my head. Sounds like I'm in the process of developing a 100 million dollar coaster. 

Arrow beat you to it. Bankrupted them too. Google X2.

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41 minutes ago, matt112986 said:

Arrow beat you to it. Bankrupted them too. Google X2.

 Dang, that was pretty much exactly what was in my head. That looks like a fun ride experience, I'm kind of surprised that it didn't take off. 

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23 minutes ago, flightoffear1996 said:

Speaking of diving inverts what is the degree of Banshees first drop?  

 

I don't think they do angle of descent for curved drops.

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1 hour ago, SonofBaconator said:

That was the early 2000s. Could S&S/ RMC create larger versions of their 4d free spins to mimic X2?

I hope so, a newer X2, Maverick, and a ground up RMC are what I would want to see at KI.

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