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What is the "best" seat on The Bat?

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As some of you know, The Bat (1993, fka Top gun/Flight Deck) is my favorite coaster at Kings Island and as of 5/19/2019, I've ridden it over 200* times. However, during my 7-ride marathon today I wondered what the "best" seat was? What I mean by this is what was the seat that the ride was designed around? For example, the "best" seat on Vortex is 5-1 as the ride was apparently designed around that particular set of seats. I actually rode in 5-1 (left side) twice and while it gave a great ride, I wanted to know definitively, if anyone on here knows. So, anyone know what seat The Bat (or maybe even Arrow Suspended coasters in general) was (were) designed around?  

*I've probably ridden it a ton more as I've only started counting my rides since 2010.

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I would say 5-1 or 1-1. Definitely in the first row of a car because of the added legroom. On Vortex I prefer 7-1 as the airtime on the first drop is the best in the park.

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I don't know what row Arrow designed the ride around like Vortex, but my favorite is in row 1 or 2. The swinging action in the front is my favorite on The Bat.

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My personal favorite place to sit is the last car. 

 

Much like sitting in the back car of Vortex, or some other Arrow coasters, the airtime on the first drop is phenomenal. And underrated. 

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That's interesting, I've never tried the back seat on The Bat because the ride is not super fast or tall so I normally go for the thrill of the front seat. May have to try rear seat. 

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I don't know that I've ever heard of Arrow's suspended coasters being designed around a particular row. The loopers, yes--it's 5-1. With very few exceptions, 5-1 is great on their loopers. I don't typically get super excited about Arrow looping coasters, but 5-1 on Loch Ness Monster is one of my favorite things to ride. I've always heard the 5-1 thing associated with Ron Toomer, but I don't know Arrow's history well enough to know if he designed all of their rides, if he applied that to every ride he did, etc.

That being said, The Bat is much swingier in the first car. The last car has airtime on the first drop, and you'll get whipped around the turn over the lift hill. The rest of the ride is kind of the same regardless of row, except when you swing up into the brakes, your car won't swing as much if you're in the back. In the front, you'll feel like you nearly reach 90 degrees (although I don't think it's actually that extreme.)

I personally find the swinging aspect to be more fun than the forcefulness of the last row. Your mileage may vary depending on what you prefer. It's a fun and underrated ride regardless.

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Great feedback, everyone! I personally like the very front seat, but 5-1 was nice when I rode it Sunday and the back is always insane (in a good way). Re: most Arrow loopers being designed around 5-1, I’ll have to try Corkscrew in that row and see if my ride experience improves! :lol:

-MDMC, who literally fell into his seat while boarding Corkscrew last time he was at The Point.

EDIT: 2-1 is also not a bad seat on The Bat.

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Question about identifying the seats you are talking about:  When you say seat 5-1, are you meaning the seat that is the fifth row back, and on the left side of the train?  So if you wanted that seat you would go to the fifth queue lane and sit in the farthest seat from you when you get onto the ride?

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5-1 means the front row of the fifth car from the front, either left or right seat. 5-2 would refer to the back row of the same car. 

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I honestly don't have a preference for Bat, though, I will say I'm more willing to wait 3-4 trains to ride the front seat a couple times a season than about any other coaster in the park sans Beast.  

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I'm a 3-1 guy on The Bat.

On Vortex, I was once a 5-1 guy but now it's 7-1 or nothing. That pop of airtime on the first drop is unlike anything you'll find on any other coaster. When I first got into roller coasters, I had to have 1-1 on everything. Now I can't even tell you how long it's been since I rode 1-1 on Vortex. Probably a few years. Maybe I should give it a go again.

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10 hours ago, homestar92 said:

I'm a 3-1 guy on The Bat.

On Vortex, I was once a 5-1 guy but now it's 7-1 or nothing. That pop of airtime on the first drop is unlike anything you'll find on any other coaster. When I first got into roller coasters, I had to have 1-1 on everything. Now I can't even tell you how long it's been since I rode 1-1 on Vortex. Probably a few years. Maybe I should give it a go again.

Another 7-1 truther! It truly does provide the best airtime moment in the entire park.

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^ Best in the park? I think it's the best in the state, and I'm a guy who adores Magnum's bunny hills!

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1 hour ago, homestar92 said:

^ Best in the park? I think it's the best in the state, and I'm a guy who adores Magnum's bunny hills!

Magnum's bunny hills in the magic seat and Maverick's first drop in the back are better than Vortex's imo

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Sat in the front with my wife a couple weeks ago, and I'm pretty sure that was the best experience I've ever had riding that coaster. It honestly reminded me of what it felt like to ride it when I was a kid. 

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2nd to last row every time. Don’t care which seat. 

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4 hours ago, APE said:

2nd to last row every time. Don’t care which seat. 

Interesting answer. Why second to last?

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I'll take front seat all day on The Bat. I love right when the train disconnects from the chain lift.  It used to be more secluded back in the Top Gun days I loved it so much and then going down the hill is amazing.

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12 minutes ago, ldhudsonjr said:

Interesting answer. Why second to last?

The ride is good for the whip/strong pull sensation in the back. If you take the front of the car you have more leg room. So second to last row every time for me 

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Just now, APE said:

The ride is good for the whip/strong pull sensation in the back. If you take the front of the car you have more leg room. So second to last row every time for me 

I'll definitely give that a shot next time I'm at the park.

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