Orion Construction Photos

[Codyfryguy 727]

Dumb question, 
What's an MCBR?

Mid
Course
Brake
Run

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[Kodistict 1857]

Just now, Klabergian Empire said:

Dumb question, 

What's an MCBR?

Mid course brake run.

[Klabergian Empire 939]

2 minutes ago, Codyfryguy said:

Mid
Course
Brake
Run

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1 minute ago, Kodistict said:

Mid course brake run.

Thanks! Tbh, I had no idea

[Kodistict 1857]

We also need a longer brake run because we will have more speed going into it unlike Fury.

[BoddaH1994 14250]

6 minutes ago, Kodistict said:

We also need a longer brake run because we will have more speed going into it unlike Fury.

I don't know if that's necessarily true.  

What do do know, as stated above, is that the lack of a mid course brake run makes the entire run of the ride - top of the hill to the end - one block.  This requires all three trains to be able to be parked on the final break runs, maybe even with a block in between each train (can anyone confirm they still do that?).  So imagine a train crests the lift hill and does the entire course without the next train being ready for dispatch.  Also, there's the unlikely case that the train would crest the lift hill with the next one unable to proceed into the station (although I believe the logic wouldn't allow it).  Just remember that there are rides like Vortex, Corkscrew (CP), and Beast* that have long brake runs but don't have an overwhelming amount of speed going into them.

*In the interest of fairness, one of the reasons Beast has a long brake run is because it was initially designed for four train operation. 

[Rockfrog33 279]

48 minutes ago, Fishleehooker said:

Agree. I would think the two will put up the lift hill, while the one in the parking lot will begin to build another across the way or something like that.  Then again, I am learning a lot watching this go down. I think once the 2nd monster crane is built, the hill starts going up. 

It will take three 300ft cranes like it did for fury. One to lift the last lift section and hold it in place,  one to lift the start to the drop, and one to take the crew up to bolt it together. 

 

credit to Coaster101.com

[Rockfrog33 279]

6 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:

I don't know if that's necessarily true.  

What do do know, as stated above, is that the lack of a mid course brake run makes the entire run of the ride - top of the hill to the end - one block.  This requires all three trains to be able to be parked on the final break runs, maybe even with a block in between each train (can anyone confirm they still do that?).  So imagine a train crests the lift hill and does the entire course without the next train being ready for dispatch.  Also, there's the unlikely case that the train would crest the lift hill with the next one unable to proceed into the station (although I believe the logic wouldn't allow it).  Just remember that there are rides like Vortex, Corkscrew (CP), and Beast* that have long brake runs but don't have an overwhelming amount of speed going into them.

*In the interest of fairness, one of the reasons Beast has a long brake run is because it was initially designed for four train operation. 

Sorry for the double post....

The blocks on this ride, in my opinion, will be the station, lift, flat part of the brake run, the lower portion of the down hill brake run, and the transfer track. There are always going to be atleast one more block then there are trains, but in manny cases there are actually 2 more as a fail safe. 

[BoddaH1994 14250]

3 minutes ago, Rockfrog33 said:

It will take three 300ft cranes like it did for fury. One to lift the last lift section and hold it in place,  one to lift the start to the drop, and one to take the crew up to bolt it together. 

 

credit to Coaster101.com

Funny how we all kind of think you need a 300' crane for a 300' ride.  Clearly all of those cranes are about as high as they get.  So if the had build it to be 335' tall, I wonder if it would have had to have had special provisions.  

Side note, how was TTD topped off?  Did they use some sort of crane or a helicopter?

[Rockfrog33 279]

6 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:

Side note, how was TTD topped off?  Did they use some sort of crane or a helicopter?

Ttd was also topped off by crane, although I'm not sure the model used.

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[BoddaH1994 14250]

Just now, Rockfrog33 said:

Ttd was also topped off by crane, although I'm not sure the model used.

Credit, cpfansite.com

Now that, sir, is a crane!

[Rockfrog33 279]

2 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said:

Now that, sir, is a crane!

And I know that they make taller ones that are on crawers too. But my uncle was on a project that had a stationary crane built on site that had a 400" boom and a lifting capacity of 2 million tons.. 

[LovinMeSomeBanshee 3455]

57 minutes ago, Rockfrog33 said:

And I know that they make taller ones that are on crawers too. But my uncle was on a project that had a stationary crane built on site that had a 400" boom and a lifting capacity of 2 million tons.. 

Do you mean 2 million pounds?  Because 2 million TONS is 4 BILLION pounds, and that sounds off.  By comparison, each of the two World Trade Center buildings weighed 500,000 tons.  I can't see any single crane being able to lift the weight of EIGHT of those at one time..

[Kodistict 1857]

Looks like we have more catwalk going in.

[silver2005 23943]

1 hour ago, BoddaH1994 said:

Now that, sir, is a crane!

There's a Crocodile Dundee joke in there somewhere....

[BoddaH1994 14250]

13 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

There's a Crocodile Dundee joke in there somewhere....

That's not a crane.

This is a crane!

Also, if you stand in the parking lot's north end and face the park, the Orion constellation is right above the Orion construction site this time of year.  Fun fact...

[silver2005 23943]

^That might be one of the coolest park Easter eggs ever. 

[Fishleehooker 271]

When I was on The Beast night run on Saturday I pointed out that Orion constellation was exactly where they are building the Coaster!! Glad someone else saw that!

Also, on The Beast, DB, Mystic Timbers, and Racers they seem to have made a decision to make it so you can just stare at the moon on the lift hill!  Fantastic stuff Kings Island!!  I mean the view on Sat night was gobsmacking. 

edit; Add Orion lift hill to the moon staring view on lift hill!!  Does KI win the lift hill moon show or what??!

[Hawaiian Coasters 325 4439]

Got some pics of Zeus while driving by:

 

[collin.klopfstein 3189]

Man, orion is going to look so nice

[Kodistict 1857]

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

Got some pics of Zeus while driving by:

 

We will soon see a giant giga in the skyline.

[collin.klopfstein 3189]

4 minutes ago, Kodistict said:

We will soon see a giant giga in the skyline.

I tried, but failed lol

[Fishleehooker 271]

8 minutes ago, collin.klopfstein said:

Man, orion is going to look so nice

The ONLY bad thing about this is that with it's location the poor racer is gonna be a moody cus what with its developing size-related psychological issues. Perhaps it will get little dog syndrome and be just gnarly in the coming years. The poor thing, what was once the biggest coaster in the whole WIDE world (!!), is on the verge of getting absolutely dwarfed!

 

But I love that you filled that in!. I was trying to visualize this. 

[silver2005 23943]

^Aside from last minute restroom additions to Area 72, I'm crossing my fingers that Racer gets some form of noticeable TLC to kind of compliment Orion.  

[Kodistict 1857]

I also made this.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhrhchtYRk

Not certain if this is the same make or model crane but it is interesting seeing a similar crane being assembled in detail

[MrSourNinja 316]

58 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

^Aside from last minute restroom additions to Area 72, I'm crossing my fingers that Racer gets some form of noticeable TLC to kind of compliment Orion.  

Yeah The Racer needs a lot of work. And pretty sure those giga drawings would need to be to the left of the tower no?

[FUN&ONLY! 1774]

1 hour ago, silver2005 said:

^Aside from last minute restroom additions to Area 72, I'm crossing my fingers that Racer gets some form of noticeable TLC to kind of compliment Orion.  

I could very well see GCI coming in and do some partial retracking of the red side.

[Kodistict 1857]

2 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

I could very well see GCI coming in and do some partial retracking of the red side.

I wish we could get some retracking on The Beast, it is getting a little rough on non wheel seats imo.

[jcovelli 422]

7 hours ago, BoddaH1994 said:

Funny how we all kind of think you need a 300' crane for a 300' ride.  Clearly all of those cranes are about as high as they get.  So if the had build it to be 335' tall, I wonder if it would have had to have had special provisions.  

Side note, how was TTD topped off?  Did they use some sort of crane or a helicopter?

The Liebherr 3100 has a max hoist height over 500'. If you think it's tall now, it's actually missing 3 (or 4) boom sections in it's current configuration. 

[jcovelli 422]

3 hours ago, Kodistict said:

I wish we could get some retracking on The Beast, it is getting a little rough on non wheel seats imo.

I wish RMC would topper track The Beast. New track and new trains. keep the same layout... maybe take out the trims also. They need to do something soon. I always feel like that thing could loose a few wheels and you wouldn't even notice.