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I think someone with "earned credibility" is someone who has proven their knowledge and resources regarding the park/industry as a whole. 
Brown actually did quote Shaggy's post when he made the viagra joke. I myself missed it. Looks like others did, as well. 


I don’t believe that covers everything.

If they want a change, it’s time to clarify and update the TOS.
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I can quite literally remember standing in front of The Vortex future site staring into the abyss of trees and weeds where they'd placed a plaque announcing Vortex. Huge drop "at the time" and six inversions. 1986...I was 11. Makes me wonder what kids are looking up at Orion being built right now in awe...and who might also see it pass after riding it with their children 30+ years from now. I don't know what kind of ride 2052 will bring, but I bet it'll be crazy!

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8 hours ago, bjcolglazier said:

I can quite literally remember standing in front of The Vortex future site staring into the abyss of trees and weeds where they'd placed a plaque announcing Vortex. Huge drop "at the time" and six inversions. 1986...I was 11. Makes me wonder what kids are looking up at Orion being built right now in awe...and who might also see it pass after riding it with their children 30+ years from now. I don't know what kind of ride 2052 will bring, but I bet it'll be crazy!

Ditto, I was around the same age when I took my first ride. I remember standing in line and kept thinking to myself, "WTF am I getting ready to get myself into and getting ready to ride!!" I had very sweaty palms that time

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It really doesn't matter to me who is taking it down, it's going to happen. The biggest conflict I see with these discussions is people stating that Sky High made a deal on construction of Orion and removal of Vortex. If that is true, you are saying that the park knew that Vortex would be coming down at the end of this season a long time before it was announced. With that being said maybe they worked out a deal with Sky High since they were here. I think Vortex removal caught everyone of guard.

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34 minutes ago, Enchanted Voyage Lover said:

With that being said maybe they worked out a deal with Sky High since they were here. 

I feel like that is the most likely case. Two birds with the same stone. 

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16 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:

One of things that needs to return on KIC is giving credibility to those that have earned it. Moderators and Admin should not be questioned about a source when giving a statement from the park. Members like @Shaggy who has been on KIC as long as it has existed and has proven his credibility should be trusted. I feel everyone on KIC can interpret who has earned credibility.

Also, throwing the TOS out there every 5 min does not give a welcoming tone for KIC. If you feel there is an issue with someones statement, examine the source and report it if it seems off.

To add to this, there are several tools on the forums which allows you to look up post history- the search engine on the forum as well as looking up individual members' post history.  The later is under every members' profile page under the button to the right just under the cover photo labeled 'See their activity'.   And the post history covers everything. 

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On 10/29/2019 at 4:38 PM, IndyGuy4KI said:

I feel everyone on KIC can interpret who has earned credibility.

Is... Is there an intentional reference in there to a certain KICer who I think we all miss?

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13 minutes ago, homestar92 said:

Is... Is there an intentional reference in there to a certain KICer who I think we all miss?

Not everyone...

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Not that this really bares any significance, but I do find it pretty funny that they did remove Vortex from the ride line up, however, in the opening paragraph right before you see the coasters in detail, Vortex is still mentioned in there. 

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On 10/30/2019 at 9:19 AM, silver2005 said:

To add to this, there are several tools on the forums which allows you to look up post history- the search engine on the forum as well as looking up individual members' post history.  The later is under every members' profile page under the button to the right just under the cover photo labeled 'See their activity'.   And the post history covers everything. 

To play devils advocate, I sometimes feel this gives off a "talking down to the "others""  vibe that I feel is oftentimes common on this site. I do not rate your knowledge or credibility based on an online forum about Kings Island. I do respect you and the mods, but I think that is a dangerous path to take in regards to how to deal with the credibility issues.

I do not consider myself someone with "elite credibility" on this site, but I do know my post count or connections to people on this site do not adequately represent my life success and trustability when it comes to knowledge. I feel like that is a very dangerous path to go down when it comes to who needs to provide a source. I do not think mods need to provide a source, especially when it is a statement from the park, but other than that, I am weary. 

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On 10/29/2019 at 10:41 PM, bjcolglazier said:

I can quite literally remember standing in front of The Vortex future site staring into the abyss of trees and weeds where they'd placed a plaque announcing Vortex. Huge drop "at the time" and six inversions. 1986...I was 11. Makes me wonder what kids are looking up at Orion being built right now in awe...and who might also see it pass after riding it with their children 30+ years from now. I don't know what kind of ride 2052 will bring, but I bet it'll be crazy!

I don't know that coasters will get much taller. You actually have a lack of extra money with upcoming generation and they tend not to spend what money they do have on theme parks. That and the price of steel keeps going up and up.  I believe most financial analysts are saying that GenX will be the first generation ever to have it worse than the previous generation. 

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26 minutes ago, KI FANATIC 37 said:

I do not consider myself someone with "elite credibility" on this site...

Normally I would dispute this...but after researching your posting history I guess I have no choice but to believe you. :rolleyes:

(Sorry IndyGuy, I couldn’t resist.)

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45 minutes ago, flightoffear1996 said:

I don't know that coasters will get much taller. You actually have a lack of extra money with upcoming generation and they tend not to spend what money they do have on theme parks. That and the price of steel keeps going up and up.  I believe most financial analysts are saying that GenX will be the first generation ever to have it worse than the previous generation. 

Sounds like the future of roller coasters is...drumroll....wooden ones!?  I like this.   Steel...keep on going up baby!  Not sure if coasters will get a whole lot bigger either....maybe 400' sometime?.  

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9 minutes ago, Sixflags82 said:

Have they started taking down Vortex yet?

 No. I don’t think there has been much news about what’s going to happen with Vortex. There has been some speculation I think in this discussion a few pages back. 

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35 minutes ago, Sixflags82 said:

Have they started taking down Vortex yet?

The last I heard from the park: Vortex will start coming down this winter, if not sooner. 

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On 10/31/2019 at 3:18 PM, flightoffear1996 said:

I don't know that coasters will get much taller. You actually have a lack of extra money with upcoming generation and they tend not to spend what money they do have on theme parks. That and the price of steel keeps going up and up.  I believe most financial analysts are saying that GenX will be the first generation ever to have it worse than the previous generation. 

I'm okay with that. Height is overrated. I like a good drop like anyone else, but other than bragging rights, I'm not sure there's much else to height other than "oh, thinks look a little smaller from up here." Millennium Force is plenty tall at 300 feet; Top Thrill Dragster is a lot of fun, but I don't know that I can really tell a difference between 300 and 400 feet. 

Rather, I think innovation is what coaster manufacturers should be focusing on. New ways to get speed, new features to make us scream. That's what I'm curious about. 

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3 hours ago, Sixflags82 said:

Have they started taking down Vortex yet?

If I was a betting man I'd say you won't see any part of the track come down until after Winterfest, kind of like how Firehawk went. 

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I'm really hoping with Vortex being such an iconic coaster that Kings Island does something special for the diehard fans like they did for Son of Beast with the Son of Beast Plaque. 

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I'd make a good wager we see on of the loops or corkscrews show up somewhere in a midway.

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I wouldn't mind seeing the batwing element just left in place where it is and freshly painted. Right on the midway, they could even put up an info board/sign about Vortex where the photo spot sign is now. I mean, what else would fit in that little area for it to be in the way of future development?

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4 hours ago, FUN&ONLY! said:

I took pictures of it on the website during its last day of operation.

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There’s a website called web archive that saves full websites periodically... 

Kings Island’s website has been saved 2,234 2,234 different times since 2007... you can even go visit the old paramount site pki.com

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9 hours ago, PKIDelirium said:

I wouldn't mind seeing the batwing element just left in place where it is and freshly painted. Right on the midway, they could even put up an info board/sign about Vortex where the photo spot sign is now. I mean, what else would fit in that little area for it to be in the way of future development?

I would love to see something like that. 

For the park's 50th anniversary, I'd love it if, instead of a ride, they put together some really nice exhibits throughout the park about KI history. Artifacts and photos from old rides, videos and commercials where possible. Maybe do something like that in Tower Gardens or clear out space for a museum. Or, perhaps better, just all around the park, maybe with commemorative plaques where the old rides once stood. 

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10 hours ago, pkiridesmaint said:

There’s a website called web archive that saves full websites periodically... 

Kings Island’s website has been saved 2,234 2,234 different times since 2007... you can even go visit the old paramount site pki.com

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Glad I wasn't the only one to snap it on the web archive. That being said, being a web designer in 2002 was cake.

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5 hours ago, cdubbs727 said:

I would love to see something like that. 

For the park's 50th anniversary, I'd love it if, instead of a ride, they put together some really nice exhibits throughout the park about KI history. Artifacts and photos from old rides, videos and commercials where possible. Maybe do something like that in Tower Gardens or clear out space for a museum. Or, perhaps better, just all around the park, maybe with commemorative plaques where the old rides once stood. 

I actually think The Vortex station, with the open sides closed in and the dividing wall between the main part and the storage shed removed, could make a good park museum. Put the doors where the exit is, and keep the entrance stairs area as an overlook. They could keep a piece of the storage track siding right there where it's next to a Bat footer.

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Here's a new concept ride from S&S called an Axis.  Looks fun but maybe alot of downtime.

 

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3 hours ago, rlentless said:

Here's a new concept ride from S&S called an Axis.  Looks fun but maybe alot of downtime.

 

I'd really love to see s&s or rmc ressurect the old arrow track. Considering what was done with Tennessee Tornado and the technology advancements in the past 20 years it would be awesome to see what could be done with the classic Arrow trains and track. I know it's a pipe dream, but one can dream. 

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