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Using Photoshop, I put the entire park inside of The Vortex land plot. I think this would be a great addition to the park.

Call me dumb but I would prefer not to have another wooden based coaster next to The Beast and Mystic Timbers

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It would be sad to see Gemini leave. It's a great ride and perfect for those who can't (or are too afraid) to ride Steel Vengeance close by; I like to think of it as a Steel Vengeance-lite.

Also, that Black Panther concept was cool in how it was a B&M that had Intamin-like elements (specifically those Maverick-esque curves throughout the ride). However, I wouldn't be a fan of another B&M launched lift. Also, that DC Rivals POV looked cool; I never realized how long that coaster was- it's like a modern day version of the Superman trio.

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1 hour ago, Bdd127 said:

See though corkscrew and Iron Dragon occupy awkward plots of land that aren't really suitable for a big coaster. If any ride should be hiding its Gemini

RMC #2 to Gemini before removal! Iron Dragon's fate would seem to be tied to Rugarou's I guess.  And maybe to The Bat's as well?
 

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On 11/7/2019 at 6:10 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

I was also thinking that instead of smashing a bunch of world records with an RMC, we go with something along the lines of Wicked Cyclone. Widely considered one of the best RMCs, but only 109 feet tall. 

I personally didn't mind twisted cyclone either

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On 11/7/2019 at 6:10 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

I was also thinking that instead of smashing a bunch of world records with an RMC, we go with something along the lines of Wicked Cyclone. Widely considered one of the best RMCs, but only 109 feet tall. 

Any RMC would be cool as heck!

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I personally would like to see a Gertslauer Infinity added to Vortexs spot. When I rode Hangtime at Knott's Berry Farm it was an amazing coaster. It was also a great one to take pictures of just like Vortex was.
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Hang time is ok... But compared to a big dive coaster like valraven or Yukon striker it's underwhelming and lacks the major thrill of a dive coaster.
If they go dive, they should commit and stick with B&M.


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On 11/8/2019 at 10:40 PM, chuck norris said:

If they go dive, they should commit and stick with B&M.

From a budget and money's worth for KI I'd expect more B&Ms due to the fact that the track is made so close and will cost less for shipping etc. Which isn't a bad thing in my opinion. With steel ever increasing staying local sure helps get more bang for your buck. 

It would be a fun record to be the park with the most B&m coasters. 

I think a dive would look and be a great addition to replace Vortex.

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On 11/8/2019 at 10:40 PM, chuck norris said:

If they go dive, they should commit and stick B&M

I'd have to agree with this. As intriguing as it'd be to see a Gerstlauer come to the park, even if just to change it up a bit, I also think it'd be best just go with B&M for the dive.

It'd fill the space better, be about 50% higher capacity than an Infinity, and probably, would just be a better ride anyway.

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I'm thinking KD's choice to go with a wing coaster might indicate that they want their next next coaster to be as different as possible from their other B&M looper (Dominator - floorless).

Conversely, this is why I think B&M dive makes the most sense for KI, in that it'd differentiate from Banshee more than a wing would.

As much as I enjoy Floorless coasters (and I even like Rougarou), I think I like Dives even more, and it would cross off the 90 degree box the park is missing, and potentially tack on another 200 ft+ coaster.

Most dives have floorless trains anyway, so you'd have two marketable gimmicks in one.

(Note: I don't say "gimmick" in a pejorative sense here. I think both floorless trains and vertical drops are actually just really fun elements)

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I'd wouldn't mind to see a TRex or any type of launch coaster.  But for KI and the direction CedarFair has gone in this park, the B&M Dive makes sense because it's a people eater and low downtime.  But I would like seeing some other manufacturer this time just to change things up.

What does anybody think would most closely match an Arrow Looper? 

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5 minutes ago, rlentless said:

I'd wouldn't mind to see a TRex or any type of launch coaster.  But for KI and the direction CedarFair has gone in this park, the B&M Dive makes sense because it's a people eater and low downtime.  But I would like seeing some other manufacturer this time just to change things up.

What does anybody think would most closely match an Arrow Looper? 

Probably A modern vekoma or s&s looper 

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2 hours ago, rlentless said:

I'd wouldn't mind to see a TRex or any type of launch coaster.  But for KI and the direction CedarFair has gone in this park, the B&M Dive makes sense because it's a people eater and low downtime.  But I would like seeing some other manufacturer this time just to change things up.

What does anybody think would most closely match an Arrow Looper? 

 Vekoma Tilt-Track coaster. The Vekoma loopers have a lot of similar elements, they’re releasing a new-generation version, and it would be unique to the Western Hemisphere.

If not that, I think a Gerstlauer infinity coaster with a lot of inversions would be the best investment maintenance-wise.

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KI would need 3 more B&Ms in order to have the numbers advantage over Six Flags Great Adventure which has 5 B&Ms currently (Batman, Nitro, Green Lantern, Bizzaro, and Superman).  Not saying numbers are what determines the "Best B&M Park" though because three of Great Adventures B&Ms are clones.

Also, there are 6 (5 if you don't count family coasters) parks other than KI that have 3 B&Ms(Alton Towers, BG Tampa, BG Williamsburg, Canada's Wonderland, Happy Valley Beijing, and SW Orlando), and there are 5 parks that have 4 B&Ms(Carowinds, CP, Six Flags Great America, Six Flags Magic Mountain, and Six Flags Over Georgia).

Most of this info just came from Wikipedia which I hope is a credible source here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolliger_%26_Mabillard

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