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A couple of the Saturdays during Halloweekends and especially the entire Columbus day weekend, are some of the busiest weekends of the year for CP- to the point: park nears or hits capacity, the park runs out of food, the overflow parking lot is used etc. Of course, it's weather pending.

This place needs to be shut down immediately for having zero integrity when it comes to guest safety.

I always laugh when social media thoosies try to downplay fantastic multimillion dollar attractions and define them as "lackluster" due to some deep state conspiracy theory. I always like to point in the direction of the Paramount additions prior to CF's purchase. If the line-up of DB, Banshee, MT, Orion is "lackluster", how are Bat (which could be argued was already planned prior to Paramount's acquisition), FoF, Invertigo, BLSC defined?

Marcus Leshock is part of the media- the same media that rarely produces accurate ride information. We also know how parks love to pump up the volume in anticipation when it comes to rides. That being said, until the permits are submitted for KK complete removal like the removal permits were submitted for Green Lantern, the entire ride removal is in question. Note the "modern advancements" in the provided statements.

Before social media, any ride announcement may have had a press conference with local media & ACE. Most of the masses found out when the new park brochures were available at AAA. Just like TTD, KK is retired as we know it and will evolve into something that will add to the ride experience- hopefully with better results than TT2 experienced this year. That does leave the question and starts to close the loop on another- who is modifying KK? and.... given the KK project is a go does that ease the minds of those who believed TT2 would never ride again? I cannot imagine the decision & investment would be made for KK if there are still uncertainties on TT2.

^ Fair enough. I was thinking more popularity of the legacy & impact on the amusement industry not necessarily just the popularity at the park.

Ouch! You consider Beast & KK to be on same level??

Guest behavior & accountability anywhere is at an all-time low. Too many have the "you can't tell me what to do" attitude. The other issue is when a guest is told "no" they have a literal temper tantrum. I cannot hold an employee/ non-security staff member responsible for the reaction a guest has when telling said guest that a drink needs to be finished before riding. The employee did their job. Guests that cannot behave properly, follow safety rules etc. should be removed & possibly banned from the park. All parks/ places in customer service industry need to start a zero-tolerance policy. The majority of the guests witnessing the outbursts will applaud and respect the decision.

Let's face it, this is issue is not just about hot chocolate. The meal/ drink plans across all the CF parks have zero consistency. Guests paid for something they are not getting in return and the reasoning given muddies the water even more. This has been an issue for a number of years and should have been addressed by now. Due to inadequate training by the park, I do feel for the employee that has to tell a guest "no" and then gets the brunt of the frustration.

Working on any ride under normal operations is one thing, knowing the design of the panels and what it can/ can't do when it is not under normal operations as well as not being present when the accident happened is another. What needs to be considered was the state of the ride prior to the accident- which will come out as the investigation continues.

^ I have unfortunately been part of many accident investigations and have learned that during the initial stages of the investigation. no root cause can be eliminated. What needs to be done is try & repeat the actions prior to the accident. I believe both the park along with B&M will try to replicate it and conduct numerous interviews with all staff.

You can guarantee that statement?

Valravn had a collision in 2019. Makes me wonder if it is a B&M block issue, wet track issue or some type of operator issue. Glad to hear the accident was not serious enough to cause injuries.

It would be interesting to see other seasonal park's attendance data % compared to each other. Due to amount of operating days varying from park to park, the % increases/ decreases by year would be more "telling". CP Dollywood Hershey BGW