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Kings Island General Discussion 2025
BeeastFarmer replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Great adventure must be a trial park. They have left out Six Flags at times. For example...it wasn't Six Flags Holiday in the Park, it was Great Adventure's Holiday In The Park. They also have opened up a Sweet Spot and installed refresh stations very similar to CF. And what's the deal with the Funsultant? The new one looks like a mean lady. I wonder if they are purposely building this campaign around the Funsultant not being fun so that Mr. six can come save the day and be the face of six flags again? -
Kings Island General Discussion 2025
BeeastFarmer replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Someone in a land far, far away (corporate) probably thinks that if they buy the pass now, they will upgrade to gold in three months for 2026. That may be the case, but they will likely downgrade to silver in 2027 and so on and so forth. That would save about $10 per year, correct? That's how out of touch people in this land far, far away might be. Or, this could be something conceived by a outside consultant. -
Kings Island General Discussion 2025
BeeastFarmer replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Thanks to groundbreaking and intelligent marketing. I get bombarded by ads for cheap silver passes daily. -
Kings Island 2025 Food Reviews and Discussion
BeeastFarmer replied to Losantiville Mining Co.'s topic in Kings Island
Seeing reports that at the Frontier Inn at CP, the burgers are premade from frozen, assembled, wrapped and placed in one of the display pans under a heat lamp. The photos looked terrible, think greasy, smashed bun and the "wormy" texture of '10-'15 burgers at KI. Is the chain going to mass produced frozen burgers, or was this an isolated incident confined to CP? -
RE: Royal Fountain: I understand the rationale for the "dynamic" setup. We were told in social media that this set up would allow for daytime and night time shows. It does look great for the Royal Finale, but I have yet to see any "show" any other time of day. At a minimum, they should have set the layout of the nozzles so they could emulate the original plumage. They should have tech, however, to work with what they have to incorporate "dancing waters" with the flow of IS music, day or night. Curbing simulation: I see your point. Space between turnsyle building and fountain: should be cohesive with the rest of the area. With the nighttime spectacular, I don't know if the area would support planters or video screens; but I like that idea. It has to accomodate crowds, but is a giant empty place other wise. It's horrible that the wooden flower carts were removed. Did they turn them into portable bars? I don't know if I agree about the hardscape and landscape around the tower. Kings Dominion has both and it looks spectacular. However, I see your brushed concrete and raise you to stamped concrete. Not with a paver stamp, but a "natural stamp" that has a deep earth tone color with a sheen. Light colors show dirt, see adventure port. Landscape: They could easily put seasonal color in the mulched areas and add color beds between the current mulched beds with shrubs (this is a nice nod to the original shrub design) This would allow for Snowflake Lake conversion and beautify the area in the other three seasons of fun. It would also be a nice contrast with the patio seating concrete and grass. Around the base of the tower: Kings Dominion does (did) not have a problem with incorporating the anchors for the lights in spite of the blue spruce and other trees. Appropriate choices can amplify the grandness of the tower. I love your idea of topiaries vs statues. Gas style lamps: these could be placed either close to the buildings or in the seating areas. As you can tell, I really like International Street and the discourse surrounding it. Thank you for the engagement!
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Huge missed opportunity in the 2019 renovation. While the renovation is much better than the previous version (with notable exceptions), had they done some relatively simple things, the area would be much more cohesive. They could have used pavers to create visual curbs, like what Dominion has. They should have redone the pavers between the turnstyle building and the fountain. What is there looks busy and dated. They should have replaced the asphalt around the Eifel Tower and the arteries around it. Pavers would have been a better choice than concrete that they put around the grand merry go round that they placed last year. Tower Gardens should have been renovated with pavers. They should have added the gas lamps, or gas style lamps back in. They need more flowers. Those could have been hanging baskets on the lamp posts, the mulch areas inside the fence of the fountain. They need more lush landscape at the base of the tower. See KD. They should incorporate more country-specific items--for example, at the Spanish Building, they have the statuary. They should have Roman statuary near the Italian Building. Hopefully the 2039 renovation will address some of these issues.
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I'm trying to visualize what lawn games would look like. Horseshoes? Croquette? If this was a popular area, how would you actually make the lawn live? Lots of average 190 pound people tramping, sitting and probably laying on the grass would kill it. Artificial turf would be too hot. Hardscape is a solution, but all of AZ, for the most part, is already hardscape. And with entertainment being cut, I don't think they would add more, especially to an area that has proved it doesn't attract live music well...I don't think small shows would do well there, either.
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Animatronics On White Water Canyon?
BeeastFarmer replied to kingsislandfan1972's topic in Kings Island
I would rather see investment in KI&MVRR. They could get bang for the buck and tie theming into both attractions, but I wouldn't bank on it. -
I don't know if I would use the word "peaked" to describe Kings Island. I think "they" are focusing on what makes them the most money in the market: families. With selling so many season passes and all that go along with it, the company is happy to maintain rather than build. We are a much better park today than we were in 2005 and 2013. Some things have declined, like the redo of the Royal Fountain and the destruction of Vortex, but we have better new coasters, flats, maintenance and atmosphere. Things are typically cyclical, and when there are more non renewals and less new sales, they will react swifty with something major. I think like fine wine, Kings Island has aged/matured fairly well. Hopefully, there isn't a midlife crisis down the road....I'd hate to see the park get an expensive sports car, toupees and young girlfriend, metaphorically speaking.
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I guess my point is: If they are happy with the numbers the park is producing, why spend the money? CP has hotels to fill (and basically an economy to support) so they likely have more robust entertainment to fill those rooms. Kings Island, on the other hand, has people who visit the park multiple times a year, buy add ons, and enjoy a solid park, with "just good enough" additions. I would personally love more enterainment: clown band, a train show, pop up shows, PTE-level season long shows in KIT. However, keeping the fireworks every night, having Grand Carnivale, Winterfest etc is a better use of entertainment dollars IMHO.
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Because why should they? People buy their passes every year for KI. It's a regional tradition. They have built up this season pass base because of excellent operations, cheap passes, meal and drink plans. This is their bread and butter. So they don't need to spend the money. Put another way ...I bought a Purple 4 mattress a few years ago and love it. Most comfortable mattress I've ever had. They have since reinvented their product line. A friend bought a new Purple mattress and it's better than mine. But there is no reason at all for me to upgrade because it's working for me. In a like manner, my Purple 4 is the entertainment options at KI. CP has more entertainment than KI, so they have the new Purple mattress. KI isn't going to adjust their entertainment budget because of CP just like I'm not going to get an upgraded Purple because my friend got one, even though it's better.
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Flight of Fear Light Package Upgrade for 2025
BeeastFarmer replied to CoasterJack's topic in Kings Island
Amazing adaptive use of some of the old light strings from the world's second tallest Christmas tree. Or so I've heard tell of. Correction: since Six Flags killed WinterFest at KD, I guess we now can claim the record back. -
Even Onion has not hit a stride yet. Via webcam, dispatches have been slow when I have watched. Of course, that's anecdotal as I'm not constantly watching.