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You're right. I shouldn't criticize Disney over a rumor.
That being said I'm still incredibly upset that WDI would consider doing something like this. It also doesn't change the fact that this would be the single biggest mistake ever made in the history of the Disney Parks company. I'm not the only one who loves this attraction. It is still loved and adored by millions of people. Almost everyone I've talked to think it's the best ride at Disney World. You should read what Disney fans have been posting about this. The fallout they will receive will be unlike anything you've ever seen.
And yes I understand that Universal did the same thing with Back to the Future. But these conversions are two completely different animals. Back to the Future, while a wonderful attraction, was reaching the end of it's life span and had decreasing popularity. Tower of Terror is nowhere near that point, nor do I think it will reach that point for many years. When Back to the Future was redone it was done tastefully. A lot of that has to do with the fact that Back to the Future was a simulator and you can do a lot with a simulator. A run away elevator ride in a haunted hotel makes no sense for a property that takes place in Outer Space. Like I said a conversion like this would be like Universal giving Jaws a Harry Potter layover instead of giving us Diagon Alley. It doesn't make any sense.
But you know what if Disney wants to shoot themselves in the foot then they can be my guest. I've moved on because Comcast realized that they'll still make a ton of cash by giving us what we want. And 20 + years from now when Universal has surpassed Disney as the world's most visited and recognized park chain and Disney is wondering what the heck happened I'll point to this moment. The moment were Disney Said "we would rather maximize profits rather than build amazing new experiences."
That is of course if it happens. And nothing is set in stone yet.
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Sadly this is more than a rumor. I know you don't believe these articles but this has substance. It was leaked by a poster on WDWMagic whose information is sadly... usually accurate. Thankfully after reading it it seems that it is more likely to only happen to the tower at Disneyland as part of larger Marvel land. But it is still a possibility in Florida. I copied the link to that thread, it's on the third page as well as some interesting info on Disney Shanghai.
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/marvel-coming-to-wdw.911512/
Of course this is nothing official and things can always change.
Now. Rant mode. Skip if you wish to not be excited.
The one thing that amazes me to this date is that some people are just incapable of criticizing Disney. I have no problem with re theming an old attraction as long as it is time for the old attraction to go and is tastefully done. Frozen in the world pavilion? Not very tasteful, but I'll survive. Guardians of the Galaxy to take over a timeless classic that people still love and adore. Disgraceful. I mean for heavens sake what does a space adventure film have to do with a run away elevator in a hotel from the 1930's? REALLY? I honestly want to know how deep in Pixie Dust I have to be before I see this as a good idea.
And yeah people point to Universal because guess what? Universal is doing it RIGHT. Could you imagine if Universal decided to re theme the Jaws attraction to Harry Potter when they decided to expand? I'd be less upset if they decided to bulldoze Tower of Terror and then build a new Guardians of the Galaxy attraction in that space. Still upset that WDW is loosing a classic attraction but at least they wouldn't be pinching pennies at this point.
And no I'm not saying all of this because I'm trying to praise Universal at the expense of Disney. I'm a fan of both. I'm criticizing Disney because I believe that this is worth criticizing. I don't want to be a jerk. And I know that I shouldn't really be getting upset until it is official. But this upsets me. I adore this attraction and the fact that this is even being considered disturbs me.
End of Rant
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http://insightsandsounds.blogspot.com/2016/03/guardians-of-galaxy-take-over-twilight.html
You didn't read that incorrectly. A rumored re-theme of one of the most beloved rides ever built. It's sadly not even really a rumor. From my understanding it actually has a decent chance of happening.
I'm sorry but I have to rant to make myself feel better. The amount of corporate greed coming from the Walt Disney Company is mind blowing. Removing tons of rides, cutting operational costs, adding cheap overlays to old rides and milking them to death all well increasing the gate price is down right disgusting and an insult to the legacy that Walt Disney left behind.
Now they want to take one of the most beloved attractions of all time and give it a new overlay. I thought the Frozen redo at EPCOT was bad enough. This is awful on so many levels. And the fact that they would rather gut a beloved attraction to save time and maximize profit instead of giving it an attraction of its own is a sign of the sheer greediness that is the current Walt Disney Company.
I hope and pray that this doesn't get green lit. It would be a very dark day for the industry. It sickens me that this is even a thought.
Sorry End Rant... Thoughts?
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NO SUCH THING AS TOO MUCH RMC. NEED MORE RMC. EVERYONE NEED RMC.
Good move for Busch though. I love me a good GCI woodie and I think it'll be a good fit for Busch. I hope they go to town with the viking theme because they really have the potential for a big winner.
Me might plan me another trip to Busch Europe soon...
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I went on the Peta twitter feed and it's quite clear that they aren't finished with Seaworld yet. They won't be satisfied until they have freed every animal chain wide.
It will be interesting to see how Seaworld will adapt and change over the next couple of years.
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Umm I believe the correct name is WDW's Kingdom of the Disco Yeti.
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Did I hear him say that their hasn't been a new theme park built in the states since the 1970's? Wasn't he at Disneyland when DCA opened in 2001? Or am I loosing it?
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Update thanks to bioreconstruct:
https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/710226355212804097
Track work is in the home stretch. Relatively quick considering new track wen't vertical in January.- 2
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From my understanding, like Potter, if Nintendo land is really successful we could see more. Nintendo has ALOT of theme park worthy properties.
I think Nintendo will be Universal's next really big IP and will also help them become known for more than just "Harry Potter World."
And as cool as that would be, I don't see a B&M flyer happening. A highly themed small coaster is a possibility but no big outdoor coasters. I'd imagine Nintendo is supposed to be the next in line of ultra immersive lands like Diagon Alley.
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Hmm... I hadn't herd of the different drivers. But I love the idea!
Also it looks like I was spot on with riders per car.
Edit: I think he's standing at the unload platform... Just a guess though
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So why if every other ride doesn't hit their max would an RMC? So if Beast's capacity is 1200 and some one here say they can only get 1008 (weird bmnumber). Why would RMC reach its potential. Wouldn't a 960 RMC only get around 700?
At that point it really does depend on the crew. For example The Beasts crew last year was really awesome they got close to hitting interval frequently.
If you were curious The Beast can only get 28 cycles per hour. Times 36 people per train gives you a max of 1008 riders per hour. So a new RMC with 960 max and a good crew should give you roughly the same capacity as The Beast. And once again I can guarantee you RMC can build a higher capacity ride.
Come on guys let RMC into your heart because THEY ARE AWESOME.
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The only ride at KI that you can count on actually hitting 1200 riders per hour is Banshee. Diamomdback should be but isn't. Diamomdback and Banshee are the only rides where it's easy to get over 1000. A perfect hour on The Beast would be 1008. But it averages between 800 and 900. So an RMC with 960 and a good crew would be right at home.
Source: I'm a former KI ride opp.
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All RMC's look weird to me, but I can't make a judgmental opinion since I haven't looked at many pictures of this ride. But still, RMC's look weird to me.
I also wanna add this to the reason why CF may never get a RMC?
1600 riders per hour (New Texas Giant)
960 riders per hour (Storm Chaser)
960 riders per hour (Wildfire)
850 riders per hour (Iron rattler)
The only rides that have large capacities are the rides that were once popular. And we don't even know the capacity of their custom created rides such as Lightning Rod, Outlaw Run, and Goliath. As for New Texas Giant, I'm not sure I trust that Capacity.
The coaster manufacture has nothing to do with capacity (well technically they do but not my point.) Capacity has everything to do with the way the coaster is designed. Just because the recent RMC coasters haven't had the highest capacity doesn't mean that they aren't capable of designing a high capacity ride (and I know that they are.) I can guarantee you if CF would ask for a high capacity coaster RMC would deliver.
Also Cedar Fair's capacity really isn't all that impressive. An RMC with 960 riders per hour would be about on par with most everything at KI right now. It'd be more out of place at Disney or Universal where they're rides that average 2000 + riders per hour.
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Hmm....CF may not like that. KK taking any attendance away from one of their parks due to an RMC. They might have to do something about that. Like build something to compete. What park is close enough to build something, has the land, and their last new coaster was in 2014? Oh wait....... we know how that story ended previously
Sadly it seems all I do now a days is bash Cedar Fair but I can't help it. Cedar Fair isn't innovative anymore. All they are doing is taking old concepts from the past that work well and are building them taller and faster. In my opinion CF hasn't built anything to write home about since Maverick (maybe Fury but I haven't ridden it yet.) Valravn didn't even make my top 10 most anticipated new rides. This year the only CF park I will be spending time at is KI. And I'll be spending more time at rival parks than ever.
I really do hope CF invests in RMC. They are absolutely the best coasters on the market right now and I would LOVE to see them at CP and KI. Time to drop B&M for a while as they are getting stale.
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Interesting... big difference in opinions on how the ride looks.
Personally I think it looks fantastic. So fantastic that I've actually decided to cancel my CP trip in favor of a second KK/ Holiday World trip.
What can I say? I love me some RMC.
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New theory... I think they are moving around dirt just to mess with us.
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The Interpreter doesn't believe me... That's understandable I am new, but I didn't make it up. If you ever go to HHN and take the unmasking the horror tour they'll tell you all about AAT, GAT (Guest Activated Triggers) and SIF (Stuff in face)
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Actor Activated Trigger... AAT is the nickname I use for scares of that nature.
I've spent so much time with HHN people I now use their lingo.
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He could jump out and yell "I WILL DESTROY YOUR PARKS THEMING!" That'd scare me.
These exist already! But not very intricate and not very common.
Assuming you're referring to the AAT scares KI has something similar but nothing like I'm talking about. I'm talking about a bone rattling sound... one that will make hairs stand on end. And a violent strobe that disorients the guest and then BOOM an actor right in their face. Works every time.
And as much as I love new coasters it is time for a dark ride. Everything KI has done recently is very... Cedar Fair. And while I don't mind those big coasters everything has been concrete and steel and, in my opinion, kills the parks charm. A dark ride is a great first step in regaining that lost charm. And then an RMC with theming.
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One thing I think KI should do is implement what I'm going to call AAT scares (Actor Activated Triggers) in the houses. Basically an actor hits a button when he or she jumps out and they are accompanied by a loud sound and usually some form of lighting effect like a strobe. It saves your actors voice, helps keep them high energy and when done correctly is extraordinarily effective (I've seen people fall on the ground) Plus you can get 4 or 5 people instead of just 1 or 2. But you do have to be creative when designing your house in order to keep things from becoming repetitive. That along with more frequent breaks will keep your actors high energy, safe, less likely to quit and more likely to return.
Do we have a general Haunt topic? If so maybe we should move this discussion over because I can talk Haunt for days. And get back to the funnel cake-less-ness state of River Town.
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I know we will never get TR: TR back... I just miss it a lot. As for the show building I really hope they keep it and transform it into a really fun dark ride. After seeing battle for metropolis I'm now fully convinced that regional parks can really create some impressive Dark Rides that will complement big coasters as the star attraction of a park.
And I know that a lot of people quit haunt mid season. Personally I think that is a side effect of being worked as much as they do. I know working a haunted house is exhausting work and doing it 6 or 7 hours a night with only one break or even none is brutal. I really hope KI will take a serious look at their Haunt model and change some things. I'm a firm believer in quality over quantity. And it seems to me that haunts tragic flaw is that they see things the other way around.
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1st Universal/ Comcast has never ending pockets and can afford a refurbishment of this size and Busch really can't. 2nd just because a ride is newer doesn't mean they've aged the same. Think of it like a car. An older car with fewer miles usually runs better than a newer car with a lot more miles. IOA sees at least twice as many people a year as Busch Tampa and so Hulk has had to run a whole lot more than Kumba or Montu has ever had to.
And yes your age probably effects your sensitivity to rough rides. However most everyone I've talked to seemed to agree with me that Hulk has gotten rougher over the years. Just as every coaster does. Regardless it doesn't matter anymore because that Hulk is gone and we have a new one on the way so let's hope it's much more comfortable.
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Can't say that I rode it in 1999. My first ride was in 2006 and personally I think that its gotten rougher over these past 10 years. It was rough on my first ride and it felt much rougher the last time I rode it. But hey that's just me.
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Dear God can we please have Tomb Raider back? I'll trade you for any ride in the park except for The Beast.
I miss that ride so much, loosing it was an absolute crime. It would have been an E-Ticket at Uni or Disney AND IT WAS IN MY BACKYARD!
Sigh...
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Tower of Terror to receive new Guardians of the Galaxy theme?
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Ok I'd like to apologize to everyone if I got too excited about this. I do get excited about things easily and I enjoy debating. I'm not a fan of this idea and I guess I got to excited in the moment. It's not fair that I'm getting so upset about something that hasn't even been confirmed. So once again I apologize if I upset anyone. I'm a passionate guy and heavily opinionated about a lot of stuff (and for the record I do enjoy the Disney parks)